Star Wars Griefing Thread (SPOILERS) - Safety off

Luke and Snoke are still dead, but their Force ghosts are still around and they have some final epic battle as ghosts (which can now affect the real world).
The "Luke is a forceghost" is the perfect cop-out to keep Luke around to pander to old fans by having Luke in the movie without annoying new fans by retconning his death. It's gonna be awkward as fuck if he constantly shows up to meddle with Rey or Ren, since that has literally never happened.
Btw: Has anyone ever addressed why Anakin didn't pop up to tell Kylo Ren to cut his hair, go back to school and stop being a dissappointment to his parents and that there's no prize to be had by following the dark side?

One Force-Ghost-Face-time call to Kylo would have prevented a shitton of issues. But I guess Snoke, despite being a nobody, managed to interfere with Anakin's ability to talk to his grandson, somehow.
 
The "Luke is a forceghost" is the perfect cop-out to keep Luke around to pander to old fans by having Luke in the movie without annoying new fans by retconning his death. It's gonna be awkward as fuck if he constantly shows up to meddle with Rey or Ren, since that has literally never happened.
Btw: Has anyone ever addressed why Anakin didn't pop up to tell Kylo Ren to cut his hair, go back to school and stop being a dissappointment to his parents and that there's no prize to be had by following the dark side?

One Force-Ghost-Face-time call to Kylo would have prevented a shitton of issues. But I guess Snoke, despite being a nobody, managed to interfere with Anakin's ability to talk to his grandson, somehow.
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But for real the Anakin angle is pretty damning when you really think about it.
 
The right companies are always shit like Nintendo and Disney, things that show that for all their shitting on angry nerds and their "muh childhood"s, they haven't grown past liking only things they liked as a child either.
I mean, Nintendo isn't really on the same level of bullshit as Disney, to sperg a little bit. Additionally, you have to remember that we really shouldn't be blaming Disney itself, we should be blaming the subsidiary Lucasfilm. Disney is simply the owner of Lucasfilm, so the only things we can really blame Disney for are not curtailing this stupid shit, and for allowing it to happen.

I just wonder, whenever Disney finally fails, what will happen to all of the IP's they've eaten. There might be a boom in content with the death of Disney.
 
Btw: Has anyone ever addressed why Anakin didn't pop up to tell Kylo Ren to cut his hair, go back to school and stop being a dissappointment to his parents and that there's no prize to be had by following the dark side?

One Force-Ghost-Face-time call to Kylo would have prevented a shitton of issues. But I guess Snoke, despite being a nobody, managed to interfere with Anakin's ability to talk to his grandson, somehow.

Like every other plothole, it's probably answered in some shitty novel or comic no one read. But I'd like to think Kylo was like "shut up grandpa, you aren't the real Darth Vader" or maybe Anakin is too busy having Force ghost sex with Padme to bother with the rest of the galaxy.
 
Like every other plothole, it's probably answered in some shitty novel or comic no one read. But I'd like to think Kylo was like "shut up grandpa, you aren't the real Darth Vader" or maybe Anakin is too busy having Force ghost sex with Padme to bother with the rest of the galaxy.
I've been keeping track, and said plot hole is addressed in the new ROTJ novelization. Its worse than you think. The book also retconned that the story C-3PO was telling the Ewoks was actually about Ahsoka, Ezra and what happened in Filoni's Rebels show despite that he's clearly talking about the Luke and his adventures in ROTJ and he shouldn't even know about that, but apparently Ezra is put on a damn fancy pedestal. As for the plot hole regarding why the jedi spirits didn't do jackshit, its explained that the reason they showed up at the ewok party was to warn Luke that they had seen the future and knew that his shit would get fucked, that Emo Ren was gonna be born and that Snoke was just their puppets, but they decided to not give him this seemingly important revelation that all three of them knew because they didn't want to make Luke sad and let him have fun at the party since it was "too heavy a burden" to actually help him. So they just fucked off permanently with Yoda coming back in TLJ because now it was a good time to start putting needless burdens on Luke...

And on a somewhat related note, in the book Bloodline, Leia is revealed as the daughter of Vader to the galaxy, which is why her reputation gets royally fucked and she loses any influence she had in the senate. Some redditors made stupid theories suggesting that the reason Vader never came back was out of shame for ruining his daughter's life with his male privilege, because he doesn't deserve the right to unfuck his family's shit.

Another explanation was given in another one of the dozens of plot hole filler guides released for TFA and TLJ, where its revealed that Snoke's magic ring is actually made from a piece of Vader's castle (the one from Rogue One and that comic with the space-time anus where Vader finds out he and Luke Palpatine's offspring) which resonates with Vader's dark side power, which some think implies that it somehow acts as a Jedi ghost repellent. I've posted about this shitty ring before and I think I went into more detail about it last time with something involving how Snoke's slippers and outfit were made from evil gold stolen from Palpatine.

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But the simple summary of why Kenobi, Yoda and Anakin didn't help is because they didn't feel like it, despite having seen the future and knowing everything stupid that happens under Disney was known to them since the moments they died, with Kenobi knowing this shit since ANH. Way to rewrite heroic sages for the sake of preserving the non-existent consistency of your shitty films, Disney-Lucasfilm.
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Another explanation, according to rumors going about, is going to be introduced in IX where Vader's force ghost will appear as a manifestation of Anakin's dark side.
Inverse isn't usually wrong, so I'm looking forward to them bastardizing Vader like they did Revan and Bane.

And for those who think JJ will ignore TLJ, he may or might not according to this interview:
Take it as you will. Also IX will have some magic mcguffin that will turn the tide since that's the easiest plot device you can conceive, which I guess ties into that rumor of a jedi eater some were talking about a few pages back. https://makingstarwars.net/2019/02/what-is-star-wars-episode-ixs-macguffin/

Plus some cringe:
 
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Additionally, you have to remember that we really shouldn't be blaming Disney itself, we should be blaming the subsidiary Lucasfilm. Disney is simply the owner of Lucasfilm, so the only things we can really blame Disney for are not curtailing this stupid shit, and for allowing it to happen.
I'd like to believe that, but Marvel Comics is also going down the toilet in a very similar fashion also under Disney. Disney/Iger could step in and put a stop to this nonsense if they wanted to, but they don't. So they must approve of it.
 
I mean, Nintendo isn't really on the same level of bullshit as Disney, to sperg a little bit. Additionally, you have to remember that we really shouldn't be blaming Disney itself, we should be blaming the subsidiary Lucasfilm. Disney is simply the owner of Lucasfilm, so the only things we can really blame Disney for are not curtailing this stupid shit, and for allowing it to happen.
Disagree, simply on the basis that Disney IS the owner of Lucasfilm. The buck stops (or ought to stop) with them, so even if their only failing is a benevolent-ish neglect, they're still sitting on their hands as Kathleen Kennedy declares the torpedoes cisheteropatriarchial constructs to be damned.

I just wonder, whenever Disney finally fails, what will happen to all of the IP's they've eaten. There might be a boom in content with the death of Disney.

In the blessed (but unlikely) event that happens, I assume they'll be parceled out to whoever will pay for them. The only way for them to truly die is for them to stop making money.
 
Disagree, simply on the basis that Disney IS the owner of Lucasfilm. The buck stops (or ought to stop) with them, so even if their only failing is a benevolent-ish neglect, they're still sitting on their hands as Kathleen Kennedy declares the torpedoes cisheteropatriarchial constructs to be damned.
tell that to the red tape already there and whatever red tape will mysteriously show up to absolve them of any responsibility for the mess
In the blessed (but unlikely) event that happens, I assume they'll be parceled out to whoever will pay for them. The only way for them to truly die is for them to stop making money.
Holy shit, the Star Wars universe being controlled by Electroinc Arts...?!
 
But the simple summary of why Kenobi, Yoda and Anakin didn't help is because they didn't feel like it, despite having seen the future and knowing everything stupid that happens under Disney was known to them since the moments they died, with Kenobi knowing this shit since ANH. Way to rewrite heroic sages for the sake of preserving the non-existent consistency of your shitty films, Disney-Lucasfilm.
Not sure if it's hilarious or sad that their attempts to explain plotholes make the ST and certain characters look worse.
 
Btw: Has anyone ever addressed why Anakin didn't pop up to tell Kylo Ren to cut his hair, go back to school and stop being a dissappointment to his parents and that there's no prize to be had by following the dark side?

One Force-Ghost-Face-time call to Kylo would have prevented a shitton of issues. But I guess Snoke, despite being a nobody, managed to interfere with Anakin's ability to talk to his grandson, somehow.
It's never going to happen, Disney is doing their damnedest to make sure you forget the prequel movies ever existed. Christensen's performance was despised by the hardcore SW faggots who think having seen the original trilogy when it first came to the theaters gives them some sort of veto over the whole franchise, and since Disney marketed the new trilogy at the old fans Anakin isn't even going to get a passing mention.

We got one line of dialogue hinting at the events of the prequels in the two movies. I doubt we'll get more than that.
 
Prequelmemers are the only thing that still gives a shit about Star Wars.

Battlefront II is basically based on meme characters from the prequels, I think Disney realised it too. SW is one big joke right now.

But episode IX is finished and nothing can be done anymore, it'll be the most derivative and boring movie of all time and will play it super safe.
 
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I fully expect Episode IX to reveal that Rey's parents were actually someone important and she didn't know it.
I didn't give a shit about Rey's parentage before but now I want this solely so I can see TLJ defenders either cry about their deep themes (lmao) being invalidated or do a 180 to defend it without a second thought.
 
I've been keeping track, and said plot hole is addressed in the new ROTJ novelization. Its worse than you think. The book also retconned that the story C-3PO was telling the Ewoks was actually about Ahsoka, Ezra and what happened in Filoni's Rebels show despite that he's clearly talking about the Luke and his adventures in ROTJ and he shouldn't even know about that, but apparently Ezra is put on a damn fancy pedestal. As for the plot hole regarding why the jedi spirits didn't do jackshit, its explained that the reason they showed up at the ewok party was to warn Luke that they had seen the future and knew that his shit would get fucked, that Emo Ren was gonna be born and that Snoke was just their puppets, but they decided to not give him this seemingly important revelation that all three of them knew because they didn't want to make Luke sad and let him have fun at the party since it was "too heavy a burden" to actually help him. So they just fucked off permanently with Yoda coming back in TLJ because now it was a good time to start putting needless burdens on Luke...

And on a somewhat related note, in the book Bloodline, Leia is revealed as the daughter of Vader to the galaxy, which is why her reputation gets royally fucked and she loses any influence she had in the senate. Some redditors made stupid theories suggesting that the reason Vader never came back was out of shame for ruining his daughter's life with his male privilege, because he doesn't deserve the right to unfuck his family's shit.

Another explanation was given in another one of the dozens of plot hole filler guides released for TFA and TLJ, where its revealed that Snoke's magic ring is actually made from a piece of Vader's castle (the one from Rogue One and that comic with the space-time anus where Vader finds out he and Luke Palpatine's offspring) which resonates with Vader's dark side power, which some think implies that it somehow acts as a Jedi ghost repellent. I've posted about this shitty ring before and I think I went into more detail about it last time with something involving how Snoke's slippers and outfit were made from evil gold stolen from Palpatine.

Short Version:
But the simple summary of why Kenobi, Yoda and Anakin didn't help is because they didn't feel like it, despite having seen the future and knowing everything stupid that happens under Disney was known to them since the moments they died, with Kenobi knowing this shit since ANH. Way to rewrite heroic sages for the sake of preserving the non-existent consistency of your shitty films, Disney-Lucasfilm.
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Another explanation, according to rumors going about, is going to be introduced in IX where Vader's force ghost will appear as a manifestation of Anakin's dark side.
Inverse isn't usually wrong, so I'm looking forward to them bastardizing Vader like they did Revan and Bane.

And for those who think JJ will ignore TLJ, he may or might not according to this interview:
Take it as you will. Also IX will have some magic mcguffin that will turn the tide since that's the easiest plot device you can conceive, which I guess ties into that rumor of a jedi eater some were talking about a few pages back. https://makingstarwars.net/2019/02/what-is-star-wars-episode-ixs-macguffin/

Plus some cringe:
Yeah, let's just forget that Anakin, Obi-Wan and Yoda were just there as a way of congratulating Luke for saving the galaxy (because they look pretty happy even if the shitty retcon says otherwise) or that Leia helped to save the fucking galaxy. We have to keep our dumpsterfire of continuity somehow.

I always saw Ashoka's shenenigans as a way of expanding the story and nothing else. Something that has no relation with the main story. But now is crammed into the canon like two different puzzle pieces joined by glue. Anyway, What do you think people about Ashoka and her appearences on the other Star Wars media? Tbh, I always confused her with Shaak Ti
 
Yeah, let's just forget that Anakin, Obi-Wan and Yoda were just there as a way of congratulating Luke for saving the galaxy (because they look pretty happy even if the shitty retcon says otherwise) or that Leia helped to save the fucking galaxy. We have to keep our dumpsterfire of continuity somehow.

I always saw Ashoka's shenenigans as a way of expanding the story and nothing else. Something that has no relation with the main story. But now is crammed into the canon like two different puzzle pieces joined by glue. Anyway, What do you think people about Ashoka and her appearences on the other Star Wars media? Tbh, I always confused her with Shaak Ti
I think: who?

Seriously have no idea who that is.
 
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