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- 30 Wrz 2018
Yes that's "him"
👓 TGWTG Hope Chapman / Jacob "Jack" Chapman / JesuOtaku - Self-loathing weaboo redneck. Blew her way to ANN gig. Goon and troon.
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- 10 Lip 2017
Granted we are still unsure if Spoony was?
FireGod365
kiwifarms.net
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- 12 Gru 2018
Get ready for the upcoming reviews of The Rising of the Shield Hero, guys. Regardless of how you feel about its source material, we can't wait to see how polarizing the reactions to its anime adaptation will be.
First reactions are in:
https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/preview-guide/2019/winter/the-rising-of-the-shield-hero/.141699
Let me say upfront that the more I hear about this show, the more I want to stay away from it.
Here's Nick Creamer's take:
Rating: burn it and salt the earth
I knew Shield Hero by reputation long before this season, so I was prepped for it to be one of winter's most controversial anime. I knew that the young man from our world who's transported into a fantasy realm would be known as the unloved “shield hero,” and that the plot would commence with a false rape accusation that destroys his reputation. That by itself made me uneasy, so I should probably explain my reservations now.
Framing a show around a false rape accusation doesn't automatically make for a terrible show, but it does provide a reasonable indicator of where the author is coming from. We exist in a world where rapes are staggeringly under-reported, women are constantly shamed and attacked for acknowledging abuses against them, and false rape reports are a tiny statistical aberration, vastly overshadowed by the number of assaults that are not reported at all. I can only see this as a deeply misguided story choice at best, and an indicator of the author's own feelings about women at worst.
In context, Shield Hero's premiere did every conceivable thing in its power to communicate that this was the latter case. But this author isn't just angry at women—his bitter paranoia extends to basically everyone around him.
This premiere's mundane failings are endemic to the isekai genre, which at its worst represents a hollow shell of masturbatory otaku reference scrabble. Protagonist Iwatani Naofumi opens by telling us he's a “normal otaku,” implying that this work is aimed at an audience where normalcy means deep entrenchment in niche nerd media, specifically the kind where characters only tend to express themselves through tropes from anime or light novels they've experienced before. Soon, Naofumi is transported to an utterly unconvincing fantasy world, where he learns that magic and skills and even personal development all work just like a JRPG, complete with character stats. This kind of world-building has become the default for the isekai genre, where an uninspired author will regurgitate tabletop tropes without much creativity instead of sculpting a living, breathing world. Dreaming of other worlds only as harem-friendly versions of Dragon Quest feels pretty depressing to me, but I realize it's usually meant to be the draw of this creatively anemic genre.
Once we've gotten through the clumsy, overlong, and predictable worldbuilding—wait, you know what, I shouldn't just gloss over that stuff. To simply handwave this show's worldbuilding as lazy would ignore how choices like “the four heroes cannot party together” and “the shield hero can only use shields” are delivered not as natural consequences of dramatic circumstance, but literally dictated to our leads through an electronic voiceover that guides all their actions. This is terrible storytelling that feels like a natural consequence of assuming “it's just an RPG” is good enough fantasy worldbuilding. If you're going to be that derivative, why not go all the way and base all your drama on “this happened because the game says I should do this next"?
Anyway, once we've gotten past the worldbuilding, we get to the actual point of this show: everyone is mean to the Shield Hero even though he's super nice and great. Though Naofumi himself is already unlikable in a casually misogynistic way (at one point he assesses a very vague drawing of a woman to be “too slutty to be a princess”), all of his compatriots are pointlessly rude and mean to him at all times. There's not much established motivation for them to hold a grudge against him; they're just mean because someone at some point was mean to the author, and this is his way of working through those feelings. There's no depth to any of Shield Hero's supporting cast, because they have no emotional interiority—they only exist insofar as they react to the Shield Hero, and since this is a vengeful power fantasy, their reactions to him are at all times nonsensically negative. Emotionally rich storytelling demands investment in and sympathy toward others, but so far Shield Hero only offers a purely reactive shell of some fabricated reality.
“I'm the greatest but no one appreciates it” is a common premise in isekai, but Shield Hero goes one step further by baking this assumption into the actual lore of its universe. Despite the Shield Hero ostensibly being one of the four people who will save this planet, everyone immediately responds to Naofumi with resentment and derision, presumably because that's how the author sees certain people around him. It'd be hard enough to buy into this under-developed video game world under any circumstances, but the fact that this world's salvation myth has to constantly justify the protagonist's relentless victim complex makes it feel even less like a complex narrative and even more like an unpleasantly bitter venting exercise.
That brings us all the way back to the rape accusation. After a day of adventuring with his one party member, Myne Suphia, Naofumi wakes up to find himself falsely accused of rape and hated by basically everyone. Through the course of a “trial” that feels eerily similar to several paranoid conspiratorial memes about feminists I've seen online, Naofumi finds himself villainized by everyone, crucified by all of the author's social anxieties and hangups about women at once. “Her kindness was all fake,” Naofumi thinks to himself, articulating the resentment of a million boys angry that simple kindness did not equal sexual interest from a woman. “We should never have summoned the shield hero,” cry the people, succinctly summing up this show's contradictory sense of martyrdom. Frankly, I agree with them. Unconvincingly developed and emotionally sterile as this world may be, it deserves a better class of hero than this.
First reactions are in:
https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/preview-guide/2019/winter/the-rising-of-the-shield-hero/.141699
Let me say upfront that the more I hear about this show, the more I want to stay away from it.
Here's Nick Creamer's take:
Rating: burn it and salt the earth
I knew Shield Hero by reputation long before this season, so I was prepped for it to be one of winter's most controversial anime. I knew that the young man from our world who's transported into a fantasy realm would be known as the unloved “shield hero,” and that the plot would commence with a false rape accusation that destroys his reputation. That by itself made me uneasy, so I should probably explain my reservations now.
Framing a show around a false rape accusation doesn't automatically make for a terrible show, but it does provide a reasonable indicator of where the author is coming from. We exist in a world where rapes are staggeringly under-reported, women are constantly shamed and attacked for acknowledging abuses against them, and false rape reports are a tiny statistical aberration, vastly overshadowed by the number of assaults that are not reported at all. I can only see this as a deeply misguided story choice at best, and an indicator of the author's own feelings about women at worst.
In context, Shield Hero's premiere did every conceivable thing in its power to communicate that this was the latter case. But this author isn't just angry at women—his bitter paranoia extends to basically everyone around him.
This premiere's mundane failings are endemic to the isekai genre, which at its worst represents a hollow shell of masturbatory otaku reference scrabble. Protagonist Iwatani Naofumi opens by telling us he's a “normal otaku,” implying that this work is aimed at an audience where normalcy means deep entrenchment in niche nerd media, specifically the kind where characters only tend to express themselves through tropes from anime or light novels they've experienced before. Soon, Naofumi is transported to an utterly unconvincing fantasy world, where he learns that magic and skills and even personal development all work just like a JRPG, complete with character stats. This kind of world-building has become the default for the isekai genre, where an uninspired author will regurgitate tabletop tropes without much creativity instead of sculpting a living, breathing world. Dreaming of other worlds only as harem-friendly versions of Dragon Quest feels pretty depressing to me, but I realize it's usually meant to be the draw of this creatively anemic genre.
Once we've gotten through the clumsy, overlong, and predictable worldbuilding—wait, you know what, I shouldn't just gloss over that stuff. To simply handwave this show's worldbuilding as lazy would ignore how choices like “the four heroes cannot party together” and “the shield hero can only use shields” are delivered not as natural consequences of dramatic circumstance, but literally dictated to our leads through an electronic voiceover that guides all their actions. This is terrible storytelling that feels like a natural consequence of assuming “it's just an RPG” is good enough fantasy worldbuilding. If you're going to be that derivative, why not go all the way and base all your drama on “this happened because the game says I should do this next"?
Anyway, once we've gotten past the worldbuilding, we get to the actual point of this show: everyone is mean to the Shield Hero even though he's super nice and great. Though Naofumi himself is already unlikable in a casually misogynistic way (at one point he assesses a very vague drawing of a woman to be “too slutty to be a princess”), all of his compatriots are pointlessly rude and mean to him at all times. There's not much established motivation for them to hold a grudge against him; they're just mean because someone at some point was mean to the author, and this is his way of working through those feelings. There's no depth to any of Shield Hero's supporting cast, because they have no emotional interiority—they only exist insofar as they react to the Shield Hero, and since this is a vengeful power fantasy, their reactions to him are at all times nonsensically negative. Emotionally rich storytelling demands investment in and sympathy toward others, but so far Shield Hero only offers a purely reactive shell of some fabricated reality.
“I'm the greatest but no one appreciates it” is a common premise in isekai, but Shield Hero goes one step further by baking this assumption into the actual lore of its universe. Despite the Shield Hero ostensibly being one of the four people who will save this planet, everyone immediately responds to Naofumi with resentment and derision, presumably because that's how the author sees certain people around him. It'd be hard enough to buy into this under-developed video game world under any circumstances, but the fact that this world's salvation myth has to constantly justify the protagonist's relentless victim complex makes it feel even less like a complex narrative and even more like an unpleasantly bitter venting exercise.
That brings us all the way back to the rape accusation. After a day of adventuring with his one party member, Myne Suphia, Naofumi wakes up to find himself falsely accused of rape and hated by basically everyone. Through the course of a “trial” that feels eerily similar to several paranoid conspiratorial memes about feminists I've seen online, Naofumi finds himself villainized by everyone, crucified by all of the author's social anxieties and hangups about women at once. “Her kindness was all fake,” Naofumi thinks to himself, articulating the resentment of a million boys angry that simple kindness did not equal sexual interest from a woman. “We should never have summoned the shield hero,” cry the people, succinctly summing up this show's contradictory sense of martyrdom. Frankly, I agree with them. Unconvincingly developed and emotionally sterile as this world may be, it deserves a better class of hero than this.
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- 4 Lut 2018
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- 28 Paź 2017
Do NOT use freaking anime news network as a barameter on whether or not to like this show. This was one of the most anticipated shows of the season for good reason; the original story is excellent, and its clear that ANN's staff members just came into this wanting to hate it because they heard about the false rape accusation, which DOES happen in real life (look up the Scottsboro Boys; in fact, false rape allegations were common in the Jim Crow south), and, just like it is difficult to actually judge the prevalence of rape due to the number that go unreported, so too is it difficult to judge the number of false allegations. While they probably are a minority of allegations, treating them like a statistical impossibility is idiotic. These dumbasses didn't even take the time to look up the the fact that the author was female and assumed that it was written by an "angry man".
Fact of the matter is, these idiots came into this story hating it. They were talking shit about the show on Twitter before they had even seen it. This is about having a political ax to grind, no more no less
And now he's dismissing it saying there's no actual proof the author is a woman
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- 28 Paź 2017
Fucking dumbasses. That's all these leftist ideologues know how to do; double down. By his own logic, that also means there is no proof Aneko Yusagi is a man either, which means that he made his statements in ignorance. Which means he just assumed their gender, a cardinal sin among the sufficiently woke.
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- 25 Maj 2015
ANN's opinions are consistently awful. A common way to bait anon on /m/ is to post an article of theirs in the OP. From there, it's simply a matter of time.
Assuming genders huh?
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- 1 Sie 2018
The leftist attitude towards fake rape allegations is baffling. The reviewer is basically saying you shouldn't have a problem with fake rape allegations because actual rapes go under-reported, and it's worth believing accusations without evidence, even if it jails a few innocent people if it means a few more real rapists are caught. This ignores the fact that fake rape allegations make real rape allegations harder to believe, so really they should be the MOST interested in gathering evidence and making sure. Unless, of course, the act of making a fake rape allegation is accepted among the left as a way to get rid of men that they personally dislike, but of course that never happens....
>sips beer
>sips beer
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- 3 Cze 2015
There really isn't. The author uses a pseudonym and directly stated they don't want to reveal their gender.
But from the sounds of it, it's an isekai targeted towards disaffected and sexually frustrated young adult men, water is wet, and the Pope is Catholic.
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- 30 Wrz 2018
Besides the ones I listed, what shows does Hope like?
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- 28 Paź 2017
Its really not though, and ANN's description isn't an accurate portrayal of the story. The main character isn't sexually frustrated. Bitter and resentful yes, but this is presented as a character flaw he needs to grow past, not something to wallow in, and the main character develops by moving past his issues. Its actually one of the least fanservicey and sexual isekai I've seen.
Well, Hope likes Cowboy Bebop and Space Dandy. Back when JO did reviews, she gave a positive review to FLCL and Neon Genesis Evangelion, though I don't think JO is a fan of FLCL, so much as recognizing why it was a technical marvel and good story and reviewing it objectively. Obviously JO is a Digimon fan. JO also liked the original Fullmetal Alchemist, but was not a fan of FA: Brotherhood. Originally, JO didn't like the Beserk manga either, till "he" saw the 2016 anime. JO is also a fan of Revolutionary Girl Utena, Baccano, and Madoka Magica. If I remember correctly, JO also likes Gurren Lagann and was a big enough fan of Trigun to do a full on restrospective series on it (which, like "his" Digimon retrospective, "he" never finished) and was also a fan of Princess Tutu. JO was most definitely NOT a fan of the Witchblade anime and i can't remember what JO thought of Outlaw Star.
FireGod365
kiwifarms.net
- Dołączono
- 12 Gru 2018
Hope is actually not the biggest NGE fan, giving a lengthy rebuke over how "philosophical" it is. She prefers RahZephon, which is similar to NGE but distinct from it. She also considers Gurren Lagann too simple and optimistic for her tastes. JO did like Outlaw Star more for its style than for any of its "plot."
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- 25 Cze 2018
I can't think of anything less relevant to a person's life then feminism in anime. Stupid trivial shit for stupid trivial people.
Thankfully the Japanese don't care what a bunch of honkey losers say about anything.
Thankfully the Japanese don't care what a bunch of honkey losers say about anything.
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- 31 Sty 2015
Japanese feminists do and they even win sometimes.
FireGod365
kiwifarms.net
- Dołączono
- 12 Gru 2018
Jacob Chapman doesn't seem to like the fact that the second Fate Stay Night movie about Heaven's Feel is staying true to the original route:
https://twitter.com/itsbonedaddy/status/1084149104161124352
https://twitter.com/itsbonedaddy/status/1084149104161124352
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- 28 Paź 2017
Is Hope really complaining that the adaptation of an H-GAME will have sex in it? I mean, I know past adaptations of Type-Moon series have, for the most part, managed to excise the sex almost entirely, but there is no way that was possible with Heaven's Feel, considering how integral sex is to the story.
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- 9 Wrz 2017
The problem lies in Hope's bias against Fate. He really doesn't care to look at it in a narrative standpoint, nor he has any interest in dissecting WHY it's important to the story. All he cares is "Wah, it has sex. Wah, it's terrible". The guy is such a fucking crybaby whenever a franchise does something HE doesn't like. And going so far as using the female card when it's utter, and complete bullshit speaks a lot about his dishonesty.