🪦 Deceased Gwen Hartley & The Hartley Hooligans - Attention Seeking Horrorshow Mom of Two Dead Gremlins & Finally Free Human Son

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Yes, obviously the girls were too weak for vaccines it’s why Gwen’s insistence on taking them out as props all the time was so weird for such a concerned mother who couldn’t even give the girls Tylenol.

Thanks to woo shit heads like Gwen herd immunity is far from being a safe bet now. Lola getting chicken pox, when she doesn’t attend school or even have the ability to interact with anyone, is a good example of “how the fuck did that happen?” All the PT and Eagle Eye therapists Gwen wasted money on probably caused far more damage by bringing in germs than any benefit (which was none).
Even worse is that she hauls them around in public all the goddamn time for attention. Between parks (with germy water fountains they have Lola root from), restaurants, basketball games, movie theaters, Santa Claus visits, carousal rides and whatever else I'm surprised one of them didn't die sooner from complications due to pneumonia caused by a cold or flu. I'll be impressed if Lola lives long enough to die of her condition like Claire did.
 
I’ve read this whole thread and while Gwen’s not a good person by any means, I almost kind of feel bad for her in the way I feel for a ‘tragic villain’ in a movie. I don’t think she ever pimped out the girls for solely selfish means, and she did love them in an incredibly misguided way that grew to be selfish. She forced herself to live a delusion she’s hinted to know she’s living because she’s too afraid to admit she’s made mistakes or genuinely hurt her children. If Claire and Lola were born normal girls, she’d be a completely unremarkable hippie mom.

So the way I feel about Gwen is like Thanos basically. She’s crazy and a bad person but I kinda get her motivations, you know?

Oh I understand her motivation to find meaning in difficult circumstances, but it was her insistence at this particular “perfect” narrative that was so bizarre and probably not great for her or her family. It’s like she had already envisioned what her daughters were going to be like and having potatoes wasn’t going to stop that train.

She tried to let off steam with her little bad mommy “snow fucking white” and dirty poop stories but in a safe way.

Gwen seemed to have a very clear idea of how her life should be and wasn’t going to let a little thing like microcephalic daughters ruin it.
 
First page should be updated to let new readers know that Claire is fortunately no longer with us.

I also wanna add that I commented several pages back that these things come in threes. It seems that they're dying in descending order, from most sentient to least: the dog, Claire, probably a house plant, then Lola.

So maybe it'll come in fours for them.
 
I keep seeing people say they are surprised Claire passed away first but that bowling alley video from several months ago made it very clear Claire was terribly ill . I assumed she had latent hepatitis or her liver and pancreas were shot .

She was a waxy sallowed yellow, her eyelids were relaxed to a nearly closed position and she was not reacting to anything with her wide eyed stare . Claire just looked worn out and tired for someone at rest 24/7 . This was also when that asshole Scott used her legs to push the ball down a metal ramp as Gwen cackled in the background. Claire would react to cold things in the past yet her legs touching metal didn't do anything but make her try to open her eyes. The poor girl was beyond ill and those sick bastards took her bowling.

As an aside I don't see Cal getting treated any better now , in fact I think Gwen is going to make his life hell because he is healthy and living. Even though Claire was the typical forgotten middle child Gwen loved to exploit her being sick by comparisons to Cal's milestones and now Cal will never cease to hear shit about being healthy and will get guilt trips for getting to live and enjoy that . He isn't ever going to be ok imo unless Gwen dies or he divorces himself from her toxic world .
 
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I do wonder what Gwen was like pre-gremlins, or even pre-Cal. I don't think she was ever a pleasant person really, but she was able to function enough to have friends and find a husband. I think Claire broke her in a way, all her assholish narcissim ramped up to 11 and she started indulging in delusions and denial a lot.

It'd be nice if someone from her past would show up to spill the deets, but since it hasn't happened yet it probably never will. It'd also be nice if she could recover enough to stop being such a cunt to her only real child Cal, but considering she just spent his 20th birthday saying he wouldn't have been as good as a person if she hadn't shat out the potatoes, give me that sweet, sweet rainbow rating.
 
Gwen's whole life has been focused on making these semi-alive slabs of meat seem like they have consciousness. Without them, she is going to feel a void in her life. I suggest she take up a similar, but more productive hobby... ventriloquism.
 
Oh I understand her motivation to find meaning in difficult circumstances, but it was her insistence at this particular “perfect” narrative that was so bizarre and probably not great for her or her family. It’s like she had already envisioned what her daughters were going to be like and having potatoes wasn’t going to stop that train.

She tried to let off steam with her little bad mommy “snow fucking white” and dirty poop stories but in a safe way.

Gwen seemed to have a very clear idea of how her life should be and wasn’t going to let a little thing like microcephalic daughters ruin it.

This.

I've been trying to come up exactly what the behavior Gwen displayed was and have been reading what others suggested as well...was it a side Freak Show thing? Was it because she was a crazy Christian? Was she using them selfishly to just bring more attention to herself?

I think this theory is the closest with a side of vanity. She wants to live in her delusion that her family is perfectly normal which supports her dressing them up and taking them out to bowl even when they're sick and obviously hate every minute of it. It's all things a good parent would do, but not a good thing of a parent with a special needs child to do.

On a side note, I've haven't been rummaging through this whole thread, just the most recent and beginning posts...what's the Snow White story?
 
On a side note, I've haven't been rummaging through this whole thread, just the most recent and beginning posts...what's the Snow White story?

I vaguely remember it as part of an intro/self summary on her tard wrangling blog/website and she described herself as "snow fucking white" with husband and three kids. And lots of cleaning up shit was also included in the bio.
 
I vaguely remember it as part of an intro/self summary on her tard wrangling blog/website and she described herself as "snow fucking white" with husband and three kids. And lots of cleaning up shit was also included in the bio.

I think it's because the gremlins are technically dwarfs.
 
This.

I've been trying to come up exactly what the behavior Gwen displayed was and have been reading what others suggested as well...was it a side Freak Show thing? Was it because she was a crazy Christian? Was she using them selfishly to just bring more attention to herself?

I think this theory is the closest with a side of vanity. She wants to live in her delusion that her family is perfectly normal which supports her dressing them up and taking them out to bowl even when they're sick and obviously hate every minute of it. It's all things a good parent would do, but not a good thing of a parent with a special needs child to do.

On a side note, I've haven't been rummaging through this whole thread, just the most recent and beginning posts...what's the Snow White story?

Idk even know if “normal” was what Gwen wanted, because she has definite snowflake leanings but the girls not being typical pretty little girls was something that really bothered Gwen no matter how hard she tried to pretend otherwise. She made a number of comments that showed such thoughts at various times, including that “at least Claire was cute” when she was a baby.

I think a large part of it can be chalked up to Gwen being very big on the superficial and appearances so having the girls really fucked with her worldview. I mean the constant photo-shopping, filtering and group photos are so over the top. She had so many styled photo shoots of the girls and family. I think she got a lot of free hair styling, photos, etc.. by using the pity factor and I’ll promote you on my social media angle. (We saw that when she complained about even paying the seamstress for material costs for her Star Wars Halloween extravaganza)

I did find it hilarious that I had no clue Gwen is quite the short chunky monkey because she expertly hides it in photos. A random candid shot showing her full body shocked me.

I vaguely remember it as part of an intro/self summary on her tard wrangling blog/website and she described herself as "snow fucking white" with husband and three kids. And lots of cleaning up shit was also included in the bio.

This. It was Gwen showing her sassy, wild side hence the “fucking” part.

I think it's because the gremlins are technically dwarfs.

...and the fact both potatoes were actual dwarfs made it extra witty for Gwen.
 
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I keep seeing people say they are surprised Claire passed away first but that bowling alley video from several months ago made it very clear Claire was terribly ill . I assumed she had latent hepatitis or her liver and pancreas were shot .

Her demographic is a bunch of housewives who called these horribly deformed children beautiful. They got excited about the "Eagle Eyes" video, commenting on how the girls were doing so well. They're just fucking ignorant and uneducated. Anyone who believes the positive mommy babble of Gwen when they have overwhelming evidence of the contrary probably isn't great with piecing things together/critical thinking.
 
I hope they can use her case to potentially come up with some gene therapy to potentially save these kids or at least make their lives less shit. The fact that these children can't take typical seizure medications is heartbreaking. This case is especially sad because the child looks mostly normal and there was probably no way they would have known this in vitro to choose to end the pregnancy or not. It's probably much worse to watch a normal child shortly deteriorate until death than having a potato remain a potato (not that the latter is a walk in the park either if you didn't expect it and don't have a hundred nurses and nannies at your beck and call)
I think that once it’s better understood it could potentially be treatable to the point where the kid only has mild disability or is normal. There is a similar condition called phenyl ketouria or PKU where instead of the defect being in the asparagine enzyme, it’s in a phenylalanine enzyme. The condition is very treatable if diagnosed at birth with a heel prick test, and if you eat a low phenylalanine diet (no meat and only Phe free protein supplements) you actually live a normal life. For this disease, you could eat an asparagine supplimented diet if you can’t make it yourself, much like the PKU treatment.
 
I think that once it’s better understood it could potentially be treatable to the point where the kid only has mild disability or is normal. There is a similar condition called phenyl ketouria or PKU where instead of the defect being in the asparagine enzyme, it’s in a phenylalanine enzyme. The condition is very treatable if diagnosed at birth with a heel prick test, and if you eat a low phenylalanine diet (no meat and only Phe free protein supplements) you actually live a normal life. For this disease, you could eat an asparagine supplimented diet if you can’t make it yourself, much like the PKU treatment.

The problem with ASD is that the major damage is present since birth, not shortly after like with PKU.
All cases have shown severe microcephaly and cerebral atrophy in womb, as well as other issues etc
So far, they suspect ASD is worse than the other types of synthesis defects, the others have varied success with replacement therapy, but ASD seems to be pure potatodom. It'd be cool if they could, but I think it's highly unlikely. They could maybe halt the progressiveness, but what's the point if not a single part of the brain presents normal from birth?


Over at the AKA Gwen's Deranged Hooligan channel on YT, there seems to be a Gwen capo that was posting on people's profiles, prior to the news about Claire's death being made public, apparently.

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Shlemiel, Schlemazel, Hasenpfeffer Incorporated1 week ago
Originally posted 3 Days ago Traveling Heart 10 hours ago "Awww so sad your other channels are getting shut down. Lol. Good. This one is next. But we aren't done with you all quite yet. Something big is coming. I managed in the last few months to uncover most of your identities. :) Going to wait for Christmas to show everyone so you all have a big...fat surprise. :) Blessings" Traveling Heart 10 hours ago "Fun what you can do when you have the knowledge to uncover your ISP addresses. Lmao" Shlemiel, Schlemazel, Hasenpfeffer Incorporated 1 minute ago "If you and/or your warped and perverted "friends" successfully follow through on exposing ANY of the PRIVATE CITIZENS that are expressing their PERSONAL, PRIVATE, FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHT to their point of views expressed on my channels, for the sole purpose to ruin their respective life, which is exactly what you people are focusing on: My channels and I are NOT RESPONSIBLE for ANY potentially PHYSICALLY LETHAL/FATAL HARM/actions that may happen to any of you, by SOMEONE ELSE OTHER THAN ME, INDEPENDENT OF ME, UNRELATED TO ME, UNKNOWN TO ME. I do NOT condone violence of ANY sort. People who lose everything, feel they have nothing else to lose by coming after YOU. You found them, they WILL very easily FIND YOU, too. LETHAL adjective 1. of, relating to, or CAUSING DEATH; DEADLY; FATAL: 2. made or carried out to CAUSE DEATH: 3. CAUSING GREAT HARM or DESTRUCTION: FATAL adjective 1. causing or capable of CAUSING DEATH; mortal; DEADLY: a fatal accident 2. causing DESTRUCTION, misfortune, RUIN, or failure: 3. decisively important; fateful: Take a screen shot of this entire comment. Make your associates aware of the gravity, of what you and they are embarking on. You and you alone, are responsible for your own actions."
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Mars Jupiter
1 week ago
What the fuck?


VICTORIA V
2 days ago
SEE!!! This is the same group of lunatics that are harassing me!! Traveling Heart left me a message on some new random YouTube channel, about Claire passing away before it was even announced to the public!! It was under the Victoria A, Volpe account, NOT ME!! The one that they made up!! These people are FANATICS!!


VICTORIA V
2 days ago
It just goes to show that these people are really CRAZY!!! To think, that some anonymous people's comments on the internet are going to cause the death of a already medically, fragile, child???!! One that wasn't even supposed to live past birth??! AND I'm sure they're going to sue the doctor that said she was incapable of life, too!! And we're all going to be prosecuted and thrown in jail!! Traveling heart good luck with that!! I know I'm sitting here shivering and it isn't from you!! Ha!!! And instead of celebrating the 17 years Claire had on this Earth? They're busy on the internet! Obsessed with social media!! JUST like Gwen Hartley! And it certainly wasn't too hard to find out who I am, because I've never used an alias to begin with!! I don't have multiple accounts! I really don't care! My opinions are mine!! I will share them to the world! I would say the same things in person, that I write on the internet. It just makes me angry that somebody would made up a fake profile of me to say horrible things that I would NEVER say! And I NEVER have said!! Just so "THEY" can screenshot this fake profile of me with my real picture and put it on their damn website, to get more attention for themselves! JUST like Gwen Hartley in real life! It was never about her kids, it was about the attention it would get her!! Rest in peace, dear little Claire! And I mean that from the depths of my heart! ♥️
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Tanya Shearer
2 days ago
We didn't kill Claire you fucking idiot. She died on her own.


Tanya Shearer
2 days ago
Victoria, this traveling heart person is nuts!!! Claire had no idea we exist so how can we have killed her?


NYC girl
2 days ago
These empty threats are ridiculous & almost everyone knows who I am, who cares. Ip addresses mean nothing & if these idiots want to talk about prosecution just keep threatening harm on internet users who make fun of others, it doesn't matter who. Law enforcement will not be bothered with You Tube insults. You must be either really young or really dumb to think otherwise. Many here have the means to sue the shit out of you, you know tie you up in court. Grow up & take up an important cause like the homeless, abused animals, kids that will not have a Christmas present due to no money. If you think protecting the likes of Brittney & Brandon Buell is meaningful take a course in humanity & while there enroll at school & try to find a course in different types of humor. Your anti bully site has not gained any respect from real anti bullying organizations because although making fun of Jaxon & the Hartleys is tasteless & can appear mean neither Jaxon or the Hartley girls will ever know anyone spoke a word about them. Now defaming someone by making fake profiles using their name & likeness to make derogatory comments is prosecutable. If you don't believe me ask a detective who specializes in internet crime. All those comments have been saved & will be used when appropriate. I am sick of being accused of making fun of Jaxon & the Hartleys, I don't. If I did it would be my business. Grow up
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NYC girl
2 days ago
@VICTORIA V We've had our say with these idiots & now its time to ignore & let them keep threatening us, I do not believe a word of it. Keep all the fake profile posts as they are prosecutable because they were posted to cause harm to a specific person/people being you & I. Are they actually blaming Claires death on anyone? I have been talking to Gwen by PM for years & I can tell you & anyone else they are not behind this cyberbullying, fake profiles, empty threats at all. They've been dealing with a sick child for quite awhile & if these idiots were so very close to them they'd know internet comments are not on their minds. As parents I'm sure they are devastated & drowning in sorrow. I have been there. But these idiots exacting revenge on people who make comments they don't like. I'd love to see them in court & I'd drag it on for years. Just exactly what they'd be suing us for is a mystery. Time to ignore Tori.
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NYC girl
16 hours ago
SSHI I can tell you with 100% certainty Gwen & Scott are not behind this internet nonsense with Traveling Heart. Also trying to find Ip addresses without the help of law enforcement is impossible. There are easy ways to block anyone but I know its not necessary. Gwen is grieving deeply & doesn't bother with detractors. She doesn't read the comments & doesn't answer them. There was a time I thought some of these dumb comments by Good Times A GoGo was Gwen but it isn't. I personally have spoken to Gwen, believe me or not any trolls out there I know they are not backing you up. By the way trying to get Ip addresses mean nothing at all. SSHI have a Merry Christmas
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Sandy Y.
14 hours ago
@NYC girl So who in hell is "Traveling Heart"??? I see above where he/she made threats but see no actual comment here or on any other videos. Did he/she make threat comments then delete them? I swear, these loonies with multiple accounts & screennames keep coming out of the woodwork!

http://archive.is/Bp2IW

It'd be interesting to know who it is.
Sidenote : Claire looked fucking terrible in this video on her birthday. I know it was posted at the time, but in retrospect she looks even worse.

 
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