Money As you all should Very Well Know FB 9/24

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You guys are all missing the point! Chris doesn't want you to buy a shitty drawing right NOW NOW NOW. Not because he wants Legos. It's not for Chris at all! It's for all those poor, poor people who purchased medallions, and through no fault of their own, have been unable to receive those medallions. Because Chris spent the money. On Legos. And a car. And his taint.

By not buying from him, you're really hurting medallion collectors. So come on, but something! The money won't be spent on Legos! It'll be spent on postage, he swears! (Disclaimer: Any money received is fungible and may not go directly to postage, but may be invested in Lego projects that are expected to return funds that may or may not be used on postage.)

The guy really has no shame, does he?
 
Marvin powiedział(a):
Not really. It is a near-easy fixer upper for the right person.
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I'm not saying Chris has been deceptive, as far as I can tell he's told the (absurd) truth as best he knows, but there's nobody that would consider replacing an engine block a "near-easy fixer upper." An experienced mechanic is going to consider that a big job, if a routine one.

That's probably why Barb's asking $5k to get it fixed, because the chop shop that quoted it for her is charging about $200 for an entire same model shitty car to get a block from, $2500 for labor, and $2300 you're-a-dumbass markup.
 
AndesMints powiedział(a):
Chris, and definitely not Barb, are not going to walk everywhere and they really shouldn't.
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Yes. But they likely don't need more than one functioning car, because Chris seems to drive Barb everywhere she goes (and if not, they both make their own schedules, so they could easily plan those schedules around sharing one car).

They currently have three functioning cars. This makes no sense. I get that Barb at 73 may not want to deal with the manual shift on the BMW, so the logical thing to do would have been to trade it in on a car she was comfortable with driving. But logic is not what the Chandlers are hoarding.

I guess Marvin's getting at the idea that nobody is going to be deceived by Chris saying "it's an easy fixer-upper" about a shitty old car with a cracked engine block, and Chris may well be 100% sincerely believing it. But that doesn't make it true in any way. The CL ads are just wasting people's time unless those people are Christorians or weens.
 
Things I learned today:
Not having an automatic transmission is an emergency.
It's not a scam to misuse funding for a kickstarter project. after all, it mighty no.9 can renege on its promises when you express an opinion...
 
hellbound powiedział(a):
I'm not saying Chris has been deceptive, as far as I can tell he's told the (absurd) truth as best he knows, but there's nobody that would consider replacing an engine block a "near-easy fixer upper." An experienced mechanic is going to consider that a big job, if a routine one.
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Well yeah, no one's arguing the car isn't a useless rust bucket. We're arguing about whether Chris is scamming anyone or being deceptive.
 
I guess with Christian's individual operations he has not been deceptive per se, at least by definition. While not flat out lying he has shown to be incredibly incompetent in his own endeavors. I think I concede to Marvin's point on this. He really is not doing anything on each of these points that is deceptive. Some people might find them laughably audacious, but others have viewed it as fair and a legitimate attempt to make money. The problem is his continuous attempts at guilt tripping his fandase with Barb's teeth, bills, rent, and good food and necessities in regards to getting money from random people has been shown to be deceptive. His constant whining and demanding people to buy his terrible art, box of porn, broken down vehicles, kickstarters...whatever it is, is always followed up by cries of desperation and drama. Everyone knows that a majority of his money is spent on Legos, Taint modification, and Sailor Moon bootleg DVDs, I guess you can call that deception. Chris is basically making his situation to be a charity case, and then turning around and blowing his only means of sustaining a living on childish possessions is incredibly deceptive. If people want to indulge him, that is great for all involved. His constant facebook whining of financial despair is ridiculous though, and I consider that in itself an attempt to scam people.

TL;DR
Sperging about something obvious to everyone
 
I'll give him this: he has so far been consistent in letting us know about delays. The problem is that these delays have no reason to be. It's like saying, "Sorry I had to turn in my paper late professor, the last level of Sonic 06 was really hard!"
 
CuriousBystander powiedział(a):
I'll give him this: he has so far been consistent in letting us know about delays. The problem is that these delays have no reason to be. It's like saying, "Sorry I had to turn in my paper late professor, the last level of Sonic 06 was really hard!"
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Y'know, that's pretty good for him. Though I think it would be better if he just personally messaged people whose medallions might be late. Doing it publicly just attracts a lot of criticism.
 
CWCissey powiedział(a):
What's worse for Chris is that those people can then claim refunds, putting his PayPal further into debt.
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Yeah that's what I'm going to do. Ebay will see no reason at all not to give all 38 of us our money back if we wanted it. I'm probably going to hold out just a little bit longer before I file a complaint though.



THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT. If you ordered a medallion from Chris you have 30 days to file a complaint to get your money back. After those 30 days Ebay won't do shit. Personally I ordered mine on September 14th so I have a bit more time to spare than the people who bought them when they were first put up for sale. I'm giving him till October the 10th or I'll be putting his Paypal even further into debt.


Edit: Not trying to A-Log. I just don't want people to get ripped off. It's entirely possible that Chris could take peoples money and never give them the medallions in this situation.
 
so, I ordered a medallion and inadvertently caused this tantrum. after seeing that post about not being able to ship medallions because he bought a new car, I intended to send him a message about when he will ship, and chose the category "I haven't received my item yet." turns out that automatically opens up a case against him and freezes the funds involved in the transaction until the dispute is settled. oops.

here's my initial message, and Chris's reply:

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i told him I won't be ending the case until he ships the medallion (especially since Friday is indeed the two weeks that Chris quoted in his listing).
 
lynx powiedział(a):
so, I ordered a medallion and inadvertently caused this tantrum. after seeing that post about not being able to ship medallions because he bought a new car, I intended to send him a message about when he will ship, and chose the category "I haven't received my item yet." turns out that automatically opens up a case against him and freezes the funds involved in the transaction until the dispute is settled. oops.

here's my initial message, and Chris's reply:

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i told him I won't be ending the case until he ships the medallion (especially since Friday is indeed the two weeks that Chris quoted in his listing).
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Imagine how mad he's going to get when everyone starts doing this to him. It's probably killing him inside that he's having to use his tugboat on shipping.
 
lynx powiedział(a):
so, I ordered a medallion and inadvertently caused this tantrum. after seeing that post about not being able to ship medallions because he bought a new car, I intended to send him a message about when he will ship, and chose the category "I haven't received my item yet." turns out that automatically opens up a case against him and freezes the funds involved in the transaction until the dispute is settled. oops.

here's my initial message, and Chris's reply:

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i told him I won't be ending the case until he ships the medallion (especially since Friday is indeed the two weeks that Chris quoted in his listing).
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I love how having to make an "emergency" payment on the insurance somehow delayed the manufacturing process of an item that by all rights should have been already in-package and ready to be mailed. Must have been the stress.

EDIT: Oh, and the fact he says he'll ship it out the day after you would be unable to re-open a case against him, if that is possible isn't suspicious at all.
 
lynx powiedział(a):
so, I ordered a medallion and inadvertently caused this tantrum. after seeing that post about not being able to ship medallions because he bought a new car, I intended to send him a message about when he will ship, and chose the category "I haven't received my item yet." turns out that automatically opens up a case against him and freezes the funds involved in the transaction until the dispute is settled. oops.

here's my initial message, and Chris's reply:

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i told him I won't be ending the case until he ships the medallion (especially since Friday is indeed the two weeks that Chris quoted in his listing).
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He told you how long it was going to take up front, so why are you leaving the case open and withholding the funds before that window closes? Just undo it and then redo it if he hasn't sent by Fri. That seems fair.
 
Holdek powiedział(a):
Just undo it and then redo it if he hasn't sent by Fri. That seems fair.
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i'm not going to undo my only means of receiving a refund if chris continues stonewalling on shipping. if you close a case favorably with a seller you forfeit any future ability to pursue a refund against that seller, at least through ebay.
 
Thankfully he went to Kickstarter, rather than Indiegogo. If he doesn't meet his goal, he won't be getting squat. Indiegogo is kind of like the sleazy Kickstarter, in that you can take the money and run at any time.
 
4Macie powiedział(a):
I don't think "everyone" is going to do it because some people genuinely want one and will wait the week or two it'll take Chris to finally send them. However, I have no doubt that at least a handful of people will do this and it will likely cause some rage posts from Chris, similar to the "don't leave me friends, it hurts my feelings when I see that my facebook friends count has gone down, even by ONE SINGLE PERSON" or the great rant "DO NOT THINK WE DO NOT NEED THE MONEY! WE REALLY NEED THE MONEY! Stop sending it to that damn Trolling Stupid Site and give it to the person who needs it ME"
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I'm sure that everyone who ordered them actually wants them. It's just seeming like we're never going to get them. To put this in perspective, on the same day that I ordered the medallion, I also ordered a custom piece of metal artwork. He said that it would probably take two weeks to create too. I already have the metal artwork though (which was much harder to make) while Chris doesn't even have the money to send out the medallion. I honestly think that everyone should open a case against Chris as that will likely get his ass in gear.
 
lynx powiedział(a):
i'm not going to undo my only means of receiving a refund if chris continues stonewalling on shipping. if you close a case favorably with a seller you forfeit any future ability to pursue a refund against that seller, at least through ebay.
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Well it is your mistake for opening up the case to begin with, isn't it? Seems like Chris would win this particular case.
 
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