Interests 6/22 - Chris at Too Many Games convention - Day 2 - Chris has a meltdown, kicked out of con for boundary issues, kissing attendees

Who's to blame for Chris being kicked out?

  • Christine

  • The Convention itself

  • CJ

  • CLYDE CASH

  • The Captain for sending him there in the first place

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@LazarusOwenhart has a point. I recall during the bronycon video there was this hot blond winking and giving bedroom eyes to Chris who if it was anyone but Chris you'd think they'd be down DTF. That shit probably happens to him all the time at cons. He gets excited and goes a little too far. It's like throwing a diabetic in a candy store. It's not completely their fault at that point.
 
I said it before and I'll say it again: Chris needs a wrangler, especially for when he's out con-hunting. Or maybe not a wrangler but some company to remind him that kissing and touching complete stranger might get him into trouble. Also, the fucking state of the youth these days! If you go to say hello or to take a picture with THE Chris-chan, you should be ready for unnecessary touching, kissing and possibly foul aroma, I mean, he is a special needs "child" after all. If you don't want that, stay the fuck away. He was wearing The Classic, for god's sake! He looked like a midwestern hobo.

Marvin powiedział(a):
I think the french analogy was apt. Americans think excessive kissing and contact is weird as shit. But I've definitely encountered... ethnics (to put it that way) in the US that hug and kiss, even when you're complete strangers.
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Say it like you mean it: Latinos. We hug, touch and kiss everyone, even people we just met.
 
Datiko powiedział(a):
Marvin has said a lot of shit about Chris that ended up incorrect. If its a literal observation, yeah he has some local connection to him. Anything else? He is as qualified as anybody else which is not at all.
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My general analysis is always completely justified. I also do not have a local connection to Chris.

The only long term prediction I've made about Chris that turned out incorrect was that it's very difficult to troll Chris through purely online means. That's the only one that I whiffed on.

And the reason I was incorrect on that is that I did not predict Chris being as financially lucrative as he is. In my wildest dreams, I never would've foreseen people throwing hundreds, sometimes thousands, of dollars at Chris for his old garbage. That definitely threw a wrench in the works.

I think it's fair to miss that one.
 
Pickle Inspector powiedział(a):
It’s difficult because they’re basically tricking Chris and feeding his into his delusion that Sonichu is popular for the right reasons and fans want to get attention from the attractive female creator. (And Chris is just acting towards his fans in the way he thinks is appropriate assumimg they’re genuine, unironic fans and he’s an attractive female)

For a normal functioning adult it wouldn’t be an issue since he’d understand social norms and that he’s just a novelty guest but Chris isn’t a normal functioning adult and they shouldn’t expect Chris to suddenly behave that way if invited to a con, like @neger psykolog says he probally really needs a minder if he’s going to be a guest or have a stall or whatever.
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How are they "tricking" him by saying hello and taking a photo together? What part of that invites a kiss after he's repeatedly been told that this sort of behavior isn't appropriate, even years before this convention? No, Chris is not a normal functioning adult, but he isn't a toddler who needs to be hugged and coddled every time he has a meltdown. Chris kissed them because he doesn't care about boundaries. He threw a fit because people rightfully called him out on it. He's an adult with autism, not a child with brain damage.
 
Unless you were there, or you have personal knowledge of the people involved, flinging accusations is an awful idea.

Security didn't make the warnings clear enough? Yeah, maybe.

People didn't make it clear enough they didn't want his attention? Yeah, maybe.

Guy banned from more game stores and malls than exist in my home town behaved inappropriately? Yeah, maybe.
 
nodramallama powiedział(a):
i feel like if you know who CWC is you KNOW what are getting into lol
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I can kind of understand that people might be familiar with the legend of CWC but not with all the fine details about his issues with this shit so its partly understandable that while someone may recognize CWC they might not recognize everything about him.

Sonichu is a "work of art" that stands on its own and CWC is known because of Sonichu to a large amount of people, that amount of people is probably significantly more than the readership of this subforum or sonichu.com

The moments with Snyder & the Blue Arms incident might not actually be as well-known as people think in the grand scheme of things or perhaps over time have just become chalked up as being weird and not representative of how CWC might act in a public setting.
 
Null powiedział(a):
Doesn't matter. This is how it is. I've arranged someone to talk to him firmly about it. If he fucks up something like BronyCon I'm not going to do this ever again because he's going to end up in fucking jail if he kisses a #MeToo genderfucked snowflake.
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Is there some sort of Pygmalion wager? "You have until Bronycon to turn this touchy-feely-kissy flower girl into a duchess of most refined demeanor".
 
neger psykolog powiedział(a):
I can kind of understand that people might be familiar with the legend of CWC but not with all the fine details about his issues with this shit so its partly understandable that while someone may recognize CWC they might not recognize everything about him.
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I'm pretty sure the general public just knows Chris as a now-transgendered autistic webcomic artist who was bullied online relentlessly for years. They likely view him primarily as a victim of the Internet, and wouldn't know about the creepy stuff he's done in the past.
 
TrippinKahlua powiedział(a):
He keeps thinking this behavior is okay because in his mind, he is a woman now. See, this is the thing. His mind is so goddamn melted into being a female now. That's why he used "Darling" et all, and why he feels a kiss on the cheek is fine. A lot of older (like in the age of 40-55) women do that sort of stuff all the time.
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Nah, I wouldn't equate what Chris did to a little old lady's peck on the cheek, especially since that usually happens between close family and friends, not strangers. There's a totally different social dynamic going on. Chris was interacting with peers, people that are basically just like him: dorky, on the spectrum, obsessed with nerd culture. Think about how Classic Chris circa 2009 would have reacted to a kiss on the cheek from a guy in a dress. Chris would have lost his fucking mind over it. Chris does not consider others when it comes to pleasing himself and that's why he gets in trouble out in public over and over. Bob and Barb shielded Chris from self regulation.

Pickle Inspector powiedział(a):
It’s difficult because they’re basically tricking Chris and feeding his into his delusion that Sonichu is popular for the right reasons and fans want to get attention from the attractive female creator. (And Chris is just acting towards his fans in the way he thinks is appropriate assuming they’re genuine, unironic fans and he’s an attractive female)
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It doesn't matter if Sonichu is popular for the "right reasons," just the fact that it is popular. Chris has a level of fame that he earned through being an online presence for many years. Nobody's tricking Chris, they really like him and want to get an autograph and photo with him. Chris just always tries to take a mile when he's given an inch.
 
So, I think quibbling over whether Chris was warned frequently enough is arguing about pennies.

Chris is almost entirely responsible for this except if CJ was fucking around. That's the big question mark.
 
Marvin powiedział(a):
Chris is almost entirely responsible for this except if CJ was fucking around. That's the big question mark.
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I got in touch with them. Chris and them have the same story. Nowhere near each other; had met up the prior day.

'CJ' was a group of friends who got in touch with Chris by being helpful to him. One of the friends was the idiot who brought up Clyde Cash and Surfshack Tito. The others apparently had no idea this happened and were pretty fucking gutted when they found out I had a legitimate reason to be pissed at them. Nothing they did influenced the outcome of event. It was a once-off bullshit remark that cast a shadow over other legitimate good they'd done.
 
I asked someone with an autistic kid to give him the personal space talk and I think he's genuinely very upset over this, so if you're a fan of Chris going out and doing stuff, hope I'm doing some good here. I like seeing him out of his element with fans taking creepshots like they've spotted bigfoot. That to me is more entertaining than the 5 years of begging and trans shit.

Like I know a lot of people, even here on kf, are mad that I have a lot of influence right now, but I'm trying to settle the dust just enough for Chris to be comfortable being Chris again.
 
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