Surgery [25 May 18] Phil claims to have a vagina now! - For Kiwi Farms, the Game has just begun.

[Ravenor]

lol hes doing that to cover his beard

That's the most likely scenario if you notice it times well with only after it was pointed out to him.

That does not look like the hostpital bed he was in earlier. Whats that black sheet behind him? I will admit that bed and pillow look extremely clean though

It looks like the kind of curtain hospitals pull around beds for privacy, but the head of the bed would still usually be up against the wall because that where all your equipment outlets are.

I have never seen a black hospital curtain of any type even in the most privacy obsessive situations, it would be a nightmare for spotting any form of discharge that hospitals would like to clean up for infection control checks with the exception of spatulate anything biological that a patient with a serious injury would be expected to discharge drys Dark.

I don’t think Toren even cares that Phil’s out of the house. Phil’s wasting his tugboat on a hotel stay purely to impress us. That’s the power we have over him.

hat's funny is he knows even Toren doesn't care about his fake SRS and is completely ignoring it. And he says nothing about it, because he's terrified of the violent drunken idiot he's allowed to take over his own bedroom in a space he personally paid for, albeit out of tard bucks, a sad kayak canoe type thing, not even near to the his superior version, Chris-Chan, gets every month.

I do think that this is a seriously good point, you and other kiwi's have brought up Torren simply doesn't care he's already getting what he wants out of Phil and unless it would put the tugboat (that he dips) or as long as the Vodka cave isn't put at risk he is only coldly polite to phil unless he wants something normally food.

If you look at Phils "discretionary" spending since Christmas the numbers of Trannybats and T-Shirts have gone down this is mostly due to Torren getting Phil to spend more and more on things to afford himself more money, the only bright side in this is Phils history and the first time he Chimped and hit someone was over a situation very much like this when he mum asked him to stop spending money on cosplay and start pulling his weight around the house - the only thing holding that back is that Torren is Bigger and Stronger and more intimdating than his mum ever was and is also more than willing to smack phil right in the kisser if he starts to stand up for himself, while it hasn't got that far yet Torren is a master of putting Phil in his place verbally and because Phil can't react well to it he shut's up and does as he's told.

 

[Deadpool]

That's the most likely scenario if you notice it times well with only after it was pointed out to him.





I have never seen a black hospital curtain of any type even in the most privacy obsessive situations, it would be a nightmare for spotting any form of discharge that hospitals would like to clean up for infection control checks with the exception of spatulate anything biological that a patient with a serious injury would be expected to discharge drys Dark.





I do think that this is a seriously good point, you and other kiwi's have brought up Torren simply doesn't care he's already getting what he wants out of Phil and unless it would put the tugboat (that he dips) or as long as the Vodka cave isn't put at risk he is only coldly polite to phil unless he wants something normally food.

If you look at Phils "discretionary" spending since Christmas the numbers of Trannybats and T-Shirts have gone down this is mostly due to Torren getting Phil to spend more and more on things to afford himself more money, the only bright side in this is Phils history and the first time he Chimped and hit someone was over a situation very much like this when he mum asked him to stop spending money on cosplay and start pulling his weight around the house - the only thing holding that back is that Torren is Bigger and Stronger and more intimdating than his mum ever was and is also more than willing to smack phil right in the kisser if he starts to stand up for himself, while it hasn't got that far yet Torren is a master of putting Phil in his place verbally and because Phil can't react well to it he shut's up and does as he's told.

I would buy Toren a bottle of his rotgut of choice for an audio recording of him putting Phil in his place. Hell it's the cheap shit so I'd buy him 2.

 

[Jaded Optimist]

I would buy Toren a bottle of his rotgut of choice for an audio recording of him putting Phil in his place. Hell it's the cheap shit so I'd buy him 2.

Id buy them their choice of belvedere or grey goose for that

 

[Ravenor]

I would buy Toren a bottle of his rotgut of choice for an audio recording of him putting Phil in his place. Hell it's the cheap shit so I'd buy him 2.

Oddly I have never managed to get close to Torren but I also haven't tried that hard lately.

But honestly, I wouldn't like to hear that as I don't want to listen to a drunken scam artist abuse a mentally disabled person I may dislike Phil I may think he is a rotten human being but I don't wish him any real ill will, to give you an example if Phil was on fire I would piss on him to put him out because I don't want to see him burn but I do want to piss on him (metaphorically speaking).

The thing is the moment Torren thinks he has got something better he will fuck off leaving Phil scratching his head, and it will take a week or two for Phil to work out why but once Torren isnt there you will see a lot of spilt beans.

 

[DragoonSierra]

Torren is Bigger

Torens a manlet

 

[Bassomatic]

Oddly I have never managed to get close to Torren but I also haven't tried that hard lately.

But honestly, I wouldn't like to hear that as I don't want to listen to a drunken scam artist abuse a mentally disabled person I may dislike Phil I may think he is a rotten human being but I don't wish him any real ill will, to give you an example if Phil was on fire I would piss on him to put him out because I don't want to see him burn but I do want to piss on him (metaphorically speaking).

The thing is the moment Torren thinks he has got something better he will fuck off leaving Phil scratching his head, and it will take a week or two for Phil to work out why but once Torren isnt there you will see a lot of spilt beans.

What's funniest and saddest, Phil will not be suffered battered wife syndrome (even though he kinda is) but will beg for ass pats when Vodka Goblin dips out on him, when really his life will get so much better when John Holiday drops dead..or moves.

 

[Chicken Picnic]

Kiwi with small medical experience here, but ts usual procedure to get patients up and about as soon as possible to minimise the risk of your muscles losing strength after being bedbound.

If she had legit had surgery including abdominal incisions, there would be no doubt in my mind they would be getting physiotherapy on the go ASAP. People don’t realise how little strength your body will have when your abdominal muscles have been fucked with. You’re gonna struggle to sit, let alone stand or walk.

And also this isn’t just a surgery thing, my nan suffered a very severe stroke which left her practically comatose for a good week. The moment she started to come round, the physio team were in there trying to get her up and moving. Granted it didn’t work, i mean she could barely keep her eyes open let alone move, but they wanted to be in there as soon as s they could to maximise their chances of getting her up and walking again. In the end, she couldn’t manage it and her leg muscles wasted away so when she actually fully came round she couldn’t bear any weight on her legs. Hence why exercise after any surgery/injury etc is so important.

So TLDR: I find it hard to believe any doctor would prescribe strict bed rest and just let their patient lie down all day until discharge. Even if you had an amputation, you would be made to start moving that stump as soon as possible even with the inevitable agonising pain.

Oh and also, part 2, if you had surgery around your intestines you would be on complete bowel rest for at least a few days post surgery. Your guts don’t like being messed with, so you need to give them time to get back to a happy state. No way would someone be eating that soon after (they were eating like the next day???), and I hazard to say even a doc could tube feed for the first couple of days just so your digestive system gets a full rest until it’s ready to function again after being manhandled and sliced apart. However i’m not a doctor so i can’t say that for sure- my experience is in Oncology so I’m no where near as well informed as other medikiwis here.

 

[repentance]

Kiwi with small medical experience here, but ts usual procedure to get patients up and about as soon as possible to minimise the risk of your muscles losing strength after being bedbound.

It's also to minimise DVT risk. Even though compression stockings/cuffs and injections of anticoagulants are standard for surgical patients, getting up and moving is one of the best ways to lower DVT risk.

I also find it incredibly odd that no-one wished Phil well with his surgery on social media. Even taking into account that most of his FB friends probably have him paused, you'd still think the few who have reacted to his posts would have given him a "good luck" or "congratulations". Unless, of course, they were well aware that it's just a charade.

 

[nvrwastetree]

I would buy Toren a bottle of his rotgut of choice for an audio recording of him putting Phil in his place. Hell it's the cheap shit so I'd buy him 2.

Shit I'd pitch in with some bathtub moonshine or the finest vodka one can buy here in Vegas.

Edit: well not the finest maybe the finest well vodka one could buy.

 

[UselessRubberKeyboard]

And for a final shot across the bows, consultants only busy themselves with the serious shit - like, actually doing the surgery. Sure, you might see a consultant on your first referral, but unless there are (very major) problems, you'll see a staffer or junior doctor at every other time. Consultants almost never do ward rounds because their skills are needed in the operating theater and making major treatment decisions. They'd be working 24/7 if they were expected to do ward duty and clinic times too.

Routine, boring shit like a regular post-op recovery is handled by staffers. I guarantee you that if Phil had had his dick mangled, he wouldn't be 'thanking Dr Dugi for his services' every day like he claims, he'd be seeing whatever staff doctor was on duty that day.

And yeah, vote 3 (or is it 4?) for 'total bedrest' being utter bullshit. The fastest way to get a chest infection and deep vein thrombosis is to languish in bed for days after hours of general anasthetic. Staff will get you up and moving on the next day, whether it hurts like the devil or not.

IV pain meds? Doubtful. Maybe in the first 12 hours, but afterwards, nah. they often leave a cannula in in case it's needed again in an emergency, but typically pain meds would be given at the lowest dose possible, orally. You don't get a week on IV morphine from a dick inversion, ffs. Wouldn't surprise me if Phil has rooted through the charts on the end of his bed, has seen that some sort of morphine-like substance is listed there, and decided this meant he was totally legit in saying he'd had said meds throughout his hospital stay. What Phil doesn't realise is that it'll be listed on the notes as permitted treatment if it's called for - which is usually directly post-op, and/or if there are major issues. Not a normal recovery.

Phil re-using the same hospital bed photo, I see. I still reckon he's had planned surgery for something minor - piles or hernia or something small and easily fixable - that's why he managed to get a date, hospital letter, and photos of himself in the hospital, at least for 24 hours. He's probably out already (he's a sped with a case worker - they may well have arranged an escort from the hospital for him), that's why we're seeing recycled photos. I wonder if he's taken a few extra as backup to 'prove the Kiwis wrong'?

 

[Swampgas]

Kiwi with small medical experience here, but ts usual procedure to get patients up and about as soon as possible to minimise the risk of your muscles losing strength after being bedbound.

If she had legit had surgery including abdominal incisions, there would be no doubt in my mind they would be getting physiotherapy on the go ASAP. People don’t realise how little strength your body will have when your abdominal muscles have been fucked with. You’re gonna struggle to sit, let alone stand or walk.

And also this isn’t just a surgery thing, my nan suffered a very severe stroke which left her practically comatose for a good week. The moment she started to come round, the physio team were in there trying to get her up and moving. Granted it didn’t work, i mean she could barely keep her eyes open let alone move, but they wanted to be in there as soon as s they could to maximise their chances of getting her up and walking again. In the end, she couldn’t manage it and her leg muscles wasted away so when she actually fully came round she couldn’t bear any weight on her legs. Hence why exercise after any surgery/injury etc is so important.

So TLDR: I find it hard to believe any doctor would prescribe strict bed rest and just let their patient lie down all day until discharge. Even if you had an amputation, you would be made to start moving that stump as soon as possible even with the inevitable agonising pain.

Oh and also, part 2, if you had surgery around your intestines you would be on complete bowel rest for at least a few days post surgery. Your guts don’t like being messed with, so you need to give them time to get back to a happy state. No way would someone be eating that soon after (they were eating like the next day???), and I hazard to say even a doc could tube feed for the first couple of days just so your digestive system gets a full rest until it’s ready to function again after being manhandled and sliced apart. However i’m not a doctor so i can’t say that for sure- my experience is in Oncology so I’m no where near as well informed as other medikiwis here.

I dont think that they normally tube feed after a surgery

 

[DragoonSierra]

she

no

 

[2spooky]

Wouldn't surprise me if Phil has rooted through the charts on the end of his bed, has seen that some sort of morphine-like substance is listed there, and decided this meant he was totally legit in saying he'd had said meds throughout his hospital stay. What Phil doesn't realise is that it'll be listed on the notes as permitted treatment if it's called for - which is usually directly post-op, and/or if there are major issues. Not a normal recovery.

Nah, everything that's said is a direct reaction to what we've said regarding the level of bullshitting going on. We say "you'd still be knocked on your ass from meds" and suddenly there's a "wow I'm so high" video after hours of post-op coherency.

 

[Nigonidas]

I dont think that they normally tube feed after a surgery

You sir are correct come be my intern

 

[Mesh Gear Fox]

Sure, you might see a consultant on your first referral, but unless there are (very major) problems, you'll see a staffer or junior doctor at every other time.

In the US you are seen by an attending every day (once a day but a lot of the minutia like ordering meds are handled by residents).

IV pain meds? Doubtful. Maybe in the first 12 hours, but afterwards, nah. they often leave a cannula in in case it's needed again in an emergency, but typically pain meds would be given at the lowest dose possible, orally.

We tend to be a little more liberal with IV opioids. For a major procedure it's pretty standard to be on IV narcs for the first several days, then you're transitioned to oral opiates (usually with a script upon discharge for about 2-4 weeks worth depending on the procedure).

 

[Tragi-Chan]

Nah, everything that's said is a direct reaction to what we've said regarding the level of bullshitting going on. We say "you'd still be knocked on your ass from meds" and suddenly there's a "wow I'm so high" video after hours of post-op coherency.

Yeah, his reading comprehension is pretty bad, so I think anything longer than a short post here is a bit much for him. Probably why he keeps making such obvious mistakes- he can’t deal with a page-long article on what to expect.

 

[The Dude]

We tend to be a little more liberal with IV opioids. For a major procedure it's pretty standard to be on IV narcs for the first several days, then you're transitioned to oral opiates (usually with a script upon discharge for about 2-4 weeks worth depending on the procedure).

Not only that, but they wouldn't "taper" or "wean" the patient from the meds. When the doctor feels that the patient can go to a lower dose taken orally then they simply switch over to that. When the patient is discharged they will get a script for whatever the doctor prescribes (Norco, Percocet, etc.). Most people who undergo surgery like this will still have a decent amount of pain following their discharge, so it's not like the doctors are just going to taper them off over their stay and let the patient deal with the pain themselves when they go home.

Yeah, his reading comprehension is pretty bad, so I think anything longer than a short post here is a bit much for him. Probably why he keeps making such obvious mistakes- he can’t deal with a page-long article on what to expect.

It's pretty funny that Phil just posted about having his drain tubes and catheter removed when someone posted an article earlier that talks about the catheter staying in for a while after the patient is discharged. We know he's reading the thread, and even if he weren't there are plenty of "what to expect" resources online in regards to GRS that Phil could easily look up. So either way he has no excuse for that fuck up. Honestly, when he fucks up in one of his lies, it's usually over basic shit like that. Every time.

 

[DragoonSierra]

We know he's reading the thread,

Yeah he shouldnt be fucking up mainly due to this. But I get the feeling his memory retention is extremely low so he just doesnt remember what weve said the next day

 

[Chicken Picnic]

I dont think that they normally tube feed after a surgery

Complete bowel rest after stomach/intesinal surgery is pretty normal, and for that you need to be on a diet where you have no need to actively digest food. So NG tube feeding is used to bypass the stomach, or IV feeding if that's not possible. If Phil had truely had this surgery, it could involve bowel resection, and thus your system might need a bit of a break to get back on track after having part of your intestine moved.

I mean its not like it matters, cause the surgery probably never happened lmao

 

[Positron]

Feeding tube?! Phil was munching crackers right after surgery!

He also says he'd have a "comrade" to bring him home:

Oh, before I forgot: Phil, there is something you must absolutely take care of before your supposed discharge tomorrow. I won't tell you what: Dr. Dugi must have told you.