Star Wars Griefing Thread (SPOILERS) - Safety off

It's a symptom of being attached to Disney, and all that it's shown is that Star Wars may inevitably become the same thing that Disney Marvel films have become - homogenous, quip-filled pieces of no significant worth with only a small veneer of what used to make the series great.

Well it is what you would get if you told a computer to make a Star Wars Movie and then fed it nothing but reddit and Tumblr.
 
I’m not surprised it’s so divisive when people keep making comments like this.
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Just saw it. Most of the scenes people hate were bad, most of the scenes people say were good were good.

The one thing I'll say is that the planet the final battle takes place on was very cool. The white layer of dust on top of red salt crystals made for an incredibly visually interesting sequence.
 
I’m not surprised it’s so divisive when people keep making comments like this.
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Well I can kind of see what he means when they're supposed to be really tiny factions but everyone keeps overreacting and overestimating how many of them they are. I still don't get why the New Republic hasn't wiped the floor with them if they would logically have way more resources than the First Order does.
 
Well it is what you would get if you told a computer to make a Star Wars Movie and then fed it nothing but reddit and Tumblr.

I am reminded of Microsoft's Tay bot that was meant to analyse speech patterns and learn to speak like millennials, and anon had it saying, "Gas the kikes race war now" within hours of its launch.

Tay was funnier though.
 
Well I can kind of see what he means when they're supposed to be really tiny factions but everyone keeps overreacting and overestimating how many of them they are. I still don't get why the New Republic hasn't wiped the floor with them if they would logically have way more resources than the First Order does.

The First Order fucked up their leaders with Death Star 3.0.
 
Well I can kind of see what he means when they're supposed to be really tiny factions but everyone keeps overreacting and overestimating how many of them they are. I still don't get why the New Republic hasn't wiped the floor with them if they would logically have way more resources than the First Order does.
The answer to that is in the (god-awful) Aftermath trilogy and Star Wars: The Force Awakens: The Visual Dictionary, because why explain anything in the films themselves when we could be adding more quips.

Wookieepedia powiedział(a):
The Military Disarmament Act was legislation aimed at legitimizing the transition of the Alliance to Restore the Republic from a military resistance movement into a democratic New Republic by significantly reducing the size and scope of its centralized defense forces. The initial proposal called for a ninety percent reduction of the New Republic military, which then consisted of a starfleet, a ground-based combat army, and a Special Forces division. While the remaining ten percent would be retained for small-scale defense efforts, all other military investments were to be diverted to training the local armed forces of Republic member worlds. The provisions of the act would only be implemented after the official end of the Galactic Civil War between the Republic and the Galactic Empire.
 
A Force for good: why the Last Jedi is the most triumphantly feminist Star Wars movie yet

The Last Jedi stormed into cinemas at the weekend as the most triumphantly feminist Star Wars film yet. While The Force Awakens and Rogue One had terrific heroines, they were isolated, and barely spoke to other women. Writer-director Rian Johnson has delivered a film that’s funny, exciting, spiritual and true to the original essence of the series while also having well-rounded female characters who actually interact with one another. Both in terms of women and non-white characters, there’s a celebratory inclusiveness that seems entirely in the Jedi spirit.

If you haven’t seen it, very mild spoilers are ahead. Rey (Daisy Ridley) is feeling the first stirrings of the Force and has gone in search of Luke Skywalker (Mark Hamill), who is living as a hermit on a remote island. The dynamic between them is complex and constantly evolving: these are no awe-struck pupil and saintly teacher archetypes. Rey’s character is as developed as any in the series, and bears no relation to her gender. Back at the Resistance HQ, General Leia (the late Carrie Fisher) is calmly calling the shots while her composed Vice Admiral Holdo (Laura Dern) is skeptical of our trigger-happy hero, Poe (Oscar Isaac). There are complex dynamics at work here, and gender seems significant in this case: the different sexes have varying approaches to military strategy, and it’s thought-provoking stuff.

It’s an impressive feat that within this two and a half hour movie, there is also room for a well-rounded Asian-American female character, Rose (Kelly Marie Tran) who goes on entertaining adventures with the intrepid Finn (John Boyega).

Among the approving voices is Annalise Ophelian, a documentary film-maker and psychologist whose current project, Looking for Leia, is about girls and women in Star Wars fandom. “The Last Jedi depicts women as multi-faceted, multi-generational, multi-racial. There are women in strong leadership positions and women who occupy student/learner positions,” she says.

The Last Jedi also contains what Ophelian says is the “first truly Bechdel Test passing scene” in the history of the franchise. “Female heroes are traditionally presented in cinematic isolation. This film gives us women working side by side, women in technical positions, and of course women learning the ways of the Force.”

Writer-director Gurinder Chada (Bend It Like Beckham) took her son to the premiere of The Last Jedi at the Royal Albert Hall. She felt the film had a distinctly feminine spirit, while still hitting all the classic Star Wars marks. “I thought it was a great version in terms of having all the lead women there. Laura Dern’s character is clearly very knowledgeable and there was a pathos with Leia, with Carrie Fisher having since passed away. That gave it a very gracious sensibility and tone which also helps it feel female driven. It was quite a gentle film. It delivered all the battles but I thought it was very spiritual compared to some other ones.”

Other commentators think the Star Wars series has always been ahead of the curve. “The franchise has been a trailblazer for women in command,” says Beth Webb, a film journalist and programmer for the Bechdel Test Fest, an ongoing celebration of women in film. “Aside from Leia, I particularly admired Felicity Jones’ Jyn in Rogue One. But it’s certainly thrilling to see these two powerhouse women be leaders, on screen, at the same time. There’s no rivalry or tension, just two old friends working together for a cause bigger than themselves. To see a franchise dear to my heart finally exceeding all of my expectations for its female characters makes it all worth it.”

Here’s hoping the post-Weinstein era is finally ushering in the changes so many feminists have been campaigning for in film. Says Webb: “We’re already seeing it in next year’s big releases, from A Wrinkle in Time to Lady Bird to Ocean’s Eight, and we’ve got solid proof in record-breaking box office figures and Metacritic scores to back us up. Wonder Woman was one of the highest-grossing superhero origin films of all time. Girls Trip was the first comedy of the year to cross the $1m mark. Lady Bird broke the Rotten Tomatoes record. And television is already light years ahead.”

But both Webb and Ophelian have one more new hope for Star Wars. ‘The next step is a female director, which I’m hoping the rapidly expanding franchise will allow,” says Webb. Tellingly, Rian Johnson, who will also direct the first film in a new Star Wars trilogy, has agreed. “There are so many incredibly talented female directors, directors of colour out there, and so many that I would love to see play in this universe. So hell yes, please, I’d love it to happen.”
 
Well I can kind of see what he means when they're supposed to be really tiny factions but everyone keeps overreacting and overestimating how many of them they are. I still don't get why the New Republic hasn't wiped the floor with them if they would logically have way more resources than the First Order does.
The in-universe answer? The New Republic massively downsized their military after the Galactic Civil War to try to legitimize their claims of wanting to establish a peaceful and democratic government. The bulk of their remaining forces would be dedicated to protecting the Republic capital (which changes every five years) and the Senate, which meant that those forces got decimated when Death Star III destroyed the Hosnian System.

The actual reason? Disney and Lucasfilm wanted an even more one-sided repeat of the Galactic Civil War.
 
A Force for good: why the Last Jedi is the most triumphantly feminist Star Wars movie yet

The Last Jedi stormed into cinemas at the weekend as the most triumphantly feminist Star Wars film yet. While The Force Awakens and Rogue One had terrific heroines, they were isolated, and barely spoke to other women. Writer-director Rian Johnson has delivered a film that’s funny, exciting, spiritual and true to the original essence of the series while also having well-rounded female characters who actually interact with one another. Both in terms of women and non-white characters, there’s a celebratory inclusiveness that seems entirely in the Jedi spirit.

If you haven’t seen it, very mild spoilers are ahead. Rey (Daisy Ridley) is feeling the first stirrings of the Force and has gone in search of Luke Skywalker (Mark Hamill), who is living as a hermit on a remote island. The dynamic between them is complex and constantly evolving: these are no awe-struck pupil and saintly teacher archetypes. Rey’s character is as developed as any in the series, and bears no relation to her gender. Back at the Resistance HQ, General Leia (the late Carrie Fisher) is calmly calling the shots while her composed Vice Admiral Holdo (Laura Dern) is skeptical of our trigger-happy hero, Poe (Oscar Isaac). There are complex dynamics at work here, and gender seems significant in this case: the different sexes have varying approaches to military strategy, and it’s thought-provoking stuff.

It’s an impressive feat that within this two and a half hour movie, there is also room for a well-rounded Asian-American female character, Rose (Kelly Marie Tran) who goes on entertaining adventures with the intrepid Finn (John Boyega).

Among the approving voices is Annalise Ophelian, a documentary film-maker and psychologist whose current project, Looking for Leia, is about girls and women in Star Wars fandom. “The Last Jedi depicts women as multi-faceted, multi-generational, multi-racial. There are women in strong leadership positions and women who occupy student/learner positions,” she says.

The Last Jedi also contains what Ophelian says is the “first truly Bechdel Test passing scene” in the history of the franchise. “Female heroes are traditionally presented in cinematic isolation. This film gives us women working side by side, women in technical positions, and of course women learning the ways of the Force.”

Writer-director Gurinder Chada (Bend It Like Beckham) took her son to the premiere of The Last Jedi at the Royal Albert Hall. She felt the film had a distinctly feminine spirit, while still hitting all the classic Star Wars marks. “I thought it was a great version in terms of having all the lead women there. Laura Dern’s character is clearly very knowledgeable and there was a pathos with Leia, with Carrie Fisher having since passed away. That gave it a very gracious sensibility and tone which also helps it feel female driven. It was quite a gentle film. It delivered all the battles but I thought it was very spiritual compared to some other ones.”

Other commentators think the Star Wars series has always been ahead of the curve. “The franchise has been a trailblazer for women in command,” says Beth Webb, a film journalist and programmer for the Bechdel Test Fest, an ongoing celebration of women in film. “Aside from Leia, I particularly admired Felicity Jones’ Jyn in Rogue One. But it’s certainly thrilling to see these two powerhouse women be leaders, on screen, at the same time. There’s no rivalry or tension, just two old friends working together for a cause bigger than themselves. To see a franchise dear to my heart finally exceeding all of my expectations for its female characters makes it all worth it.”

Here’s hoping the post-Weinstein era is finally ushering in the changes so many feminists have been campaigning for in film. Says Webb: “We’re already seeing it in next year’s big releases, from A Wrinkle in Time to Lady Bird to Ocean’s Eight, and we’ve got solid proof in record-breaking box office figures and Metacritic scores to back us up. Wonder Woman was one of the highest-grossing superhero origin films of all time. Girls Trip was the first comedy of the year to cross the $1m mark. Lady Bird broke the Rotten Tomatoes record. And television is already light years ahead.”

But both Webb and Ophelian have one more new hope for Star Wars. ‘The next step is a female director, which I’m hoping the rapidly expanding franchise will allow,” says Webb. Tellingly, Rian Johnson, who will also direct the first film in a new Star Wars trilogy, has agreed. “There are so many incredibly talented female directors, directors of colour out there, and so many that I would love to see play in this universe. So hell yes, please, I’d love it to happen.”

I am so saddened this movie won't get the same treatment that Ghostbusters 2016 got for being the mediocre remake it was.
 
The answer to that is in the (god-awful) Aftermath trilogy and Star Wars: The Force Awakens: The Visual Dictionary, because why explain anything in the films themselves when we could be adding more quips.
I've got to be honest, this actually makes me kind of assmad. And not assmad in the sense that disarming your fucking military like that is BEYOND retarded and really is nothing more than a garbage excuse to go back to the Rebels vs Empire shit in the OT. What really makes me assmad is that 30 years passed and neither TFA nor TLJ actually bothered to do anything to fill in those 30 years.
It's honestly just a bunch of lazy shit. I feel the Sequel Trilogy in general has been lazy shit so far with The Last Jedi also being lazy shit that wastes my time.
 
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