Las Vegas Mass Shooting - 50 Dead, 200 Injured. Worst Mass Shooting in US History

[Graffiti canvas]

I wonder if he'd recently dropped enough money to really fuck him up. That would give him some motivation.

I'd think that initially. But snapping on THIS scale and with this much premeditation? I dunno. Dude would have needed to fuck his life up BAD, then go about collecting weapons in his hotel room for a few days. An arsenal like that doesn't come from room service.

Generally that kind of emotion doesn't carry over for that long of period. I could see it if the dude went and shot up casino floor with a handgun. But the scale of this feels wrong for that.

 

[AnOminous]

I'd think that initially. But snapping on THIS scale and with this much premeditation? I dunno. Dude would have needed to fuck his life up BAD, then go about collecting weapons in his hotel room for a few days. An arsenal like that doesn't come from room service.

He may have already had a big gun collection before going nuts.

Also he's been there since Thursday. We already know he has to have spent some time moving that stuff in.

 

[NoStinkingBadges]

So it was indeed a white dude? Again? God fucking dammit

 

[Graffiti canvas]

He may have already had a big gun collection before going nuts.

Also he's been there since Thursday. We already know he has to have spent some time moving that stuff in.

Sure. I'm not discounting it. And given all the information we DO know, it's the only logical motivation.

He would have had to spend days ferrying a cache like that from his house to the hotel. That's a lot of firepower they found.

 

[Derped223]

 

[Dickens Cider]

He may have already had a big gun collection before going nuts.

Also he's been there since Thursday. We already know he has to have spent some time moving that stuff in.

according to the most recent I heard, they haven't found anything super obvious. One person that apparently knew him was saying wtf he never was a gun lover. He sounds like Walter Mitty irl- accountant, pain in the ass. at 64 and rich it will be interesting to find out what triggered him.

 

[Cosmos]

This is a really fascinating case. I'm a criminology buff, and I've haven't heard of a mass murder quite like this. First off, most mass murderers/shooters are young (or relatively young) men; Stephen Paddock was 64 years old. Most mass murderers leave behind some kind of manifesto or document explaining their motivations; from what I can tell, Stephen Paddock didn't leave behind any kind of detailed explanation (if he did, it would have mentioned by now). He also attacked from a vantage point, which while not unheard of (Charles Whitman is one of the most infamous examples) is still pretty unusual. Most mass murderers prefer to be up close and personal with their victims.

 

[escapegoat]

So, there is a current girlfriend, Marilou, and an ex wife, who was in town, and talked to at least some of the press. Maybe the ex wife is the one that was warning people?

 

[r00]

If you're picking the center between something right and something wrong, centrism is wrong. Bad ideals/actions are still bad regardless of the party, and they aren't on opposite ends of the spectrum unless you set it up that way. That's why people hate centrists, because there is no such thing as compromise between good and evil. It's not that black and white obviously, but it comes down to upholding to your chosen ideals and not flip-flopping as a way to avoid taking a real stand for whatever you believe in. A lot of centrists set up the spectrum of whatever they're "center" of in a way that sets up their position as the reasonable one (like KKK vs ANTIFA), or they make the fallacy of the mean.

Nobody intentionally picks the "wrong" side, you idiot. Even the worst Isis baby rapist thinks they are doing the right thing, and that whoever is on the other end of the spectrum is the one that's really in the wrong. Having a fixed, unwavering belief in any Ideology is retarded. Being reasonable and able to admit when you are wrong is pretty much the only thing that's is going to save this toilet of a world.

 

[MrLobe]

The local morning show on the radio here goes to vegas all the time and supposedly knows a lot of the vegas "Hosts". These are the people that attend to rich guys and high profile people in hotels. Basically act like private concierge and line up amenities for people.

He said that he called the host he knows and uses when he goes to vegas and the host said that "Everybody" knew the guy. He was a typical "old rich guy" and a demanding, entitled asshole who pushed for free shit all the time. But he dumped so much cash that everyone had to kiss his ass per vegas policy.

There's enough evidence for me to believe the guy was what they're making him out to be at this point.

>Takes his gun, L'il Blasty, on another soothing Vegas vacation.
>Plays video poker for hours while smoking, in proud boomer tradition.
>Retires to bed at 8PM, in proud boomer tradition.
>Shitty pop-country music concert keeps him up.
>"ENOUGH."

 

[OneShotGG]

If you're picking the center between something right and something wrong, centrism is wrong. Bad ideals/actions are still bad regardless of the party, and they aren't on opposite ends of the spectrum unless you set it up that way. That's why people hate centrists, because there is no such thing as compromise between good and evil. It's not that black and white obviously, but it comes down to upholding to your chosen ideals and not flip-flopping as a way to avoid taking a real stand for whatever you believe in. A lot of centrists set up the spectrum of whatever they're "center" of in a way that sets up their position as the reasonable one (like KKK vs ANTIFA), or they make the fallacy of the mean.

the only way this works is if you think one side is evil and the other good. Truth is there are good ideas and bad ideas on both sides. Centrists want to borrow the good from both and get rid of the bad. If you think one side is evil then you are likely an extremist yourself.

 

[escapegoat]

Stephen Paddock didn't leave behind any kind of detailed explanation (if he did, it would have mentioned by now).

There may be jurisdictional issues. He lived in Mesquite, which is near the Utah border. Maybe they aren't done searching his house.

 

[IrishGuy088]

Well that's fucking shitty.

F

 

[BillyGoat2]

He may have already had a big gun collection before going nuts.

Also he's been there since Thursday. We already know he has to have spent some time moving that stuff in.

you imply that room service doesnt go through all your shit though...

 

[Gullik]

I admit I'm not a huge fan of guns in general but it's not like a gun makes someone go "derr, I better shoot at random people." Strict gun control may repel some but they can always just stab people or build a bomb or whatever. Those who are willing to cause damage will always find a way.

As for this case there's still a lot of speculation and a lot that isn't known yet (not that it has ever stopped anyone sperging before) but maybe in time we will learn what the hell this guy's problem was.

 

[Piga Dgrifm]

>never had a Muslim shooter
This nigga serious? Pulse happened last year and San Bernardino happened the year before. This is no way to be this ignorant of mass shootings carried out by Muslims.

Those were just white males pretending to be muslims to fuel islamaphobia. Stay woke, sheeple.

 

[escapegoat]

Strict gun control may repel some but they can always just stab people or build a bomb or whatever.

He had "strictly controlled" guns by the looks of things. Stuff that is already illegal. You cannot get any more illegal than already super illegal, ya know?

 

[Tennis Monkey]

Generally that kind of emotion doesn't carry over for that long of period. I could see it if the dude went and shot up casino floor with a handgun. But the scale of this feels wrong for that.

If this genuinely is a "normal" mass killer with no political motive, I'd expect to see a long history of mental illness, relationship problems and alienation from people around him. Think of Randy Stair. You're right - people with otherwise successful lives don't usually go this crazy over losing money, even a lot of it. It might have been the final straw, but not really the cause.

Of course, we'll have to wait for more information to be completely sure what exactly this guy's background was.

 

[soryu]

All I need is leading information at this point and no hypocrisies coming from people on the left and right wing, especially with "news" sources. Everyone wants to go straight for their political opinion pieces nowadays rather than trying to find out the truth. Of course, we can make a couple jokes here and there, because this shit is stressful to deal with. This is why I love this site, it's rarely filled with nonstop finger pointing.

 

[NoStinkingBadges]

He had "strictly controlled" guns by the looks of things. Stuff that is already illegal. You cannot get any more illegal than already super illegal, ya know?

Fucking hell, what an old boomer cunt.

I just know that liberals are gonna continue using coffins as soapboxes to make already illegal things super illegal and perfectly reasonable things like AR15s illegal and criminalize millions of people