US US Politics General 2: Hope Edition - Discussion of President Trump and other politicians

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Should be a wild four years.

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Amelia Troonheart powiedział(a):
You realize what they charge your insurance isn't what you'd actually pay for cash price, right? Insurance prices are marked way up compared to out of pocket.

If you tell them you don't have insurance and want to pay cash they'll not only give you a way discounted rate, they'll also give you payment plans.
I use alternatives to insurance wherever possible for that reason. It ends up being way cheaper.

Ive seen hilarious examples of this where people show their insurance got charged $600 for some blood work and they were on the hook for $125 of it, meanwhile I know multiple websites they could have gotten the same work up for $90.

Last time I checked out of pocket cost for natural childbirth is around 7-12k with the negotiated out of pocket discount. Though it depends on the hospital of course, and there are ways to get it even cheaper like with healthshares (religious or not) where I've seen much lower than that.
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I knew a guy once who wore his oldest shittiest clothes and didn't shower for a few days every time he needed to go to the doctor and they charged him like $20 down from $5000 because they thought he was homeless and couldn't squeeze his insurance or sent him to collections.
 
namelesstacotruck powiedział(a):
Platner has named his price to step down. He gets to pick the sucessor. They havent bitten.

They can either offer him something else he would want (they havent), apply more stick (some other accusers have magically appeared already and more wont change the calculus because his fig leaf is this is politically motivated attacks), hope he will crack under current pressure, or give him what he wants.

This is basic politics. The Democratic party seems to have forgotten this.

They either need to show this leverage Collins apparently has, find a new attack angle, or they need to offer him a deal. The longer Platner waits the better deal he can demand up to the 13th. If he waits past the 13th its the same as if he quits, he has no political future after this and will have trouble with private employment too now.
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They’ve basically said that rebellion is the same as being late here.
 
People have been asking, "Who the fuck vetted Platner before he ran? Weren't they concerned about the whole rape and Nazi tattoo thing?"


These are the people who vetted him.
 
Gap Hag powiedział(a):
Ehhhhhh i wouldn't go that far, to be completely fair i imagine being president of the united states probably lets you skip over a ton of low level shit, nobody's gonna give a fuck if he jaywalks for example.
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They literally tried to put him in prison over a bookkeeping error. The only reason he wasn't is because of different federal judges saying to wait until after the election before deciding to put him in prison.
 
Amelia Troonheart powiedział(a):
childbirth is around 7-12k
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A three to four day, high risk geriatric birth is only around $1700 as of 2024 with insurance including the epidural. Its the cost of about two ceramic crowns from a dentist with insurance. And if they need formula, the hostpital just gives you a week supply, which only costs about $30 if you buy it at the store and mix it yourself. A nine month old can go through about $30 of formula every four to seven days if the mom's milk doesn't come in sufficiently. Disposable diapers are cheap and the hospital will give a bunch of those as well. Hell, they'll even wipe your baby's ass and change the diaper for you until you leave. Babies are cheap.
 
Mister Fister powiedział(a):
They’ve basically said that rebellion is the same as being late here.
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That plus he can still make a deal with the enemy to boot!

He can easily clear half a million in the right wing talking head circuit if he stays in and bitches about how the Dems betrayed him and drummed up shit like they did to Kavanuagh and Trump. Fox News base will lap it up. It will also twist any allegation to politics. If he concedes its looks like an admission.
 
Echinacea powiedział(a):
platner does not have one conviction

this is not true. you cant just accuse someone of something and get free money. very amusing to see you all switch talking points when your messiah has accusers . also your religion is brown
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innocent people are never screwed by courts for political reasons
this literally has happened zero times in the history of the world
there's so much evidence trump raped E. Jean Carroll
first of all, she said so
second of all, women never lie about sex for fame, revenge, or money
QED
 
The Ugly One powiedział(a):
innocent people are never screwed by courts for political reasons
this literally has happened zero times in the history of the world
there's so much evidence trump raped E. Jean Carroll
first of all, she said so
second of all, women never lie about sex for fame, revenge, or money
QED
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so does this mean graham platner is innocent too?
 
Amelia Troonheart powiedział(a):
You realize what they charge your insurance isn't what you'd actually pay for cash price, right? Insurance prices are marked way up compared to out of pocket.

If you tell them you don't have insurance and want to pay cash they'll not only give you a way discounted rate, they'll also give you payment plans.
I use alternatives to insurance wherever possible for that reason. It ends up being way cheaper.

Ive seen hilarious examples of this where people show their insurance got charged $600 for some blood work and they were on the hook for $125 of it, meanwhile I know multiple websites they could have gotten the same work up for $90.

Last time I checked out of pocket cost for natural childbirth is around 7-12k with the negotiated out of pocket discount. Though it depends on the hospital of course, and there are ways to get it even cheaper like with healthshares (religious or not) where I've seen much lower than that.
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Or you can just give them a fake name and no social and you don't have to pay shit. Fuck em, trying to charge 3k for an ultrasound, suck my balls.
 
Echinacea powiedział(a):
so does this mean graham platner is innocent too?
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This will blow your feeble little mind, but different situations are not the same.

One man’s innocence in one case has no bearing on another man’s guilt in a different case.

But the one thing we can count on is that you sexually harass rodents.
 
Amelia Troonheart powiedział(a):
You realize what they charge your insurance isn't what you'd actually pay for cash price, right? Insurance prices are marked way up compared to out of pocket.

If you tell them you don't have insurance and want to pay cash they'll not only give you a way discounted rate, they'll also give you payment plans.
I use alternatives to insurance wherever possible for that reason. It ends up being way cheaper.

Ive seen hilarious examples of this where people show their insurance got charged $600 for some blood work and they were on the hook for $125 of it, meanwhile I know multiple websites they could have gotten the same work up for $90.

Last time I checked out of pocket cost for natural childbirth is around 7-12k with the negotiated out of pocket discount. Though it depends on the hospital of course, and there are ways to get it even cheaper like with healthshares (religious or not) where I've seen much lower than that.
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yeah glowdoc I worked with would speak at length that if you talk with them upfront and make it clear you're paying cash you can get some stupid cheap deals, especially on childbirth
 
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Just a reminder to anyone who waves that thin blue line flag saying police lives matter: When the state comes to confiscate your guns, burn your bibles, and take your children away to be reeducated, they'll send fat ugly pig cops like this cunt to do it and they'll gladly do it with a smile on their faces.

Seriously, I don't know why God made her look like that. But she's got some Liccemlow Lisa shit going on.
 
I look forward to the post-Platner era where the Dems vote for even more unhinged candidates who don't waffle over the pressure and instead tell the party brass to go fuck themselves when coerced to drop out.

Why give in when you crushed the establishment candidates and are a DSA member while bearing a Nazi tattoo and committing rape? You've basically won the lottery at that point. For the schadenfreude alone I hope Platner holds out until Tuesday because the pundit kvetching will be a sight to behold :story:
 
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