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Happy Fourth, all! May your BBQ’s be successful and fingers unexploded.
Fuck you, it’s my god given right as an American citizen to gravely injure myself during a Roman candle dirtbike joust on this, my nation’s birthday.
we’re even dumber than recorded considering it’s against the law here to IQ test black kids lol
 
And to the Kiwis who arent American, happy Murca day to you too, because America is amazing you'll enjoy Fourth of July whether you like it or not.
All leftist kiwis are brown in spirit, but even for them today I think we can forgive a bit and say they're maybe not fully brown and they can understand the USA is the best and has been the greatest country in the world and President Trump is their president if they're in country as a courtesy to them.
 
The problem with communism is human nature is inherently opposed to it, it works in a family system because you can regulate and trust people to be symbiotic at that level, and you can even scale this up to a small commune of a couple dozen people with heavy vetting, but anything farther then that the inherent sinful nature of people will cause it to break down and people will not be equal, communism asks people to be a family while ignoring that a family with ties that intricate and sharing can't be that fucking large unless you have insane amounts of vetting and people being held at gunpoint to not be retarded, because most people are shitheads.
That's a Gift Economy (and the reason why Gift Economies don't work).

Communism is essentially a god-like human leader mass deporting everyone to some backwater labor camp to die (and the incompetence is likely on purpose to make sure people get killed) and basically anyone can be killed for the pettiest reasons imaginable.

Oh and believers of other Religions and Intellectuals die first before the rest.
 
Communism is essentially a god-like human leader mass deporting everyone to some backwater labor camp to die (and the incompetence is likely on purpose to make sure people get killed) and basically anyone can be killed for the pettiest reasons imaginable.
I don't think so at first, but i think communism is essentially a system that creates a power vacuum in pursuit of itself that almost always leads to tyranny from my understanding of history, if that makes sense
 
I don't think so at first, but i think communism is essentially a system that creates a power vacuum in pursuit of itself that almost always leads to tyranny from my understanding of history, if that makes sense
Marxism makes no sense, it said feudalism led to mercantilism but that was apparent. Marx and Engels saw that and was already old then and wearing out, then thought capitalism was a transient phase of self contradicting. Ready their works, 'contradictions' is one of the biggest things they talk about. Only class though.

It's would be like saying someone said gravity and levity of Plato and Aristotle would lead to modern quantum physics, before even Newton. It's nuts. Marx was a baby cared fool that his own parents disowned and lived off mostly rich Engels. Null himself said it's a 'childlike thought process of reality'. And billions of people fell for it, just like islam.

You can trace modern leftism a bit before to the Paris Commune and so on, whatever. It's all bullshit.

The one thing about Marxism with economics and society that I noticed growing up similar is that 'scientists' like Sagan and Brian Greene later thought humanity was really close to a full theory that'll last forever about everything. It ain't gonna happen in this universe. Things always change.

We're seeing it now with this AI/robotics 'post scarcity/money' situation some are talking. There will still be a need of distribution of wealth based on production, which is capitalism of the Smith kind. You can't have everyone have an original Mona Lisa, it'll have intrinsic value that can't be shared.

I've probably shared this before, but the entire concept of 'value' to me is nonsensical and subjective. Even 'money' is mostly a BS setup. It's both a 'store of wealth' and an 'exchange of value'. Marxism doesn't address this at all. Free market Capitalism is the best for now on this.

Being exposed to Calc 3 where it introduces business/value/rate of change is somewhat interesting, but it's not a good predictor of objective human behavior when it comes to economics. Economics is 50% art, 25% math, 25% science.
 
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Marxism makes no sense, it said feudalism led to mercantilism but that was apparent. Marx and Engels saw that and was already old then and wearing out, then thought capitalism was a transient phase of self contradicting. Ready their works, 'contradictions' is one of the biggest things they talk about. Only class though.

It's would be like saying someone said gravity and levity of Plato and Aristotle would lead to modern quantum physics, before even Newton. It's nuts. Marx was a baby cared fool that his own parents disowned and lived off mostly rich Engels. Null himself said it's a 'childlike thought process of reality'. And billions of people fell for it, just like islam.

You can trace modern leftism a bit before to the Paris Commune and so on, whatever. It's all bullshit.
How the hell can you say that capitalism is transient? the basis of capitalism has been recognized in societies for hundreds of years? or did they think that societies up until then weren't capitalist/whatever hybrids? but this is beyond my reading grade to properly comment on.
The one thing about Marxism with economics and society that I noticed growing up similar is that 'scientists' like Sagan and Brian Greene later thought humanity was really close to a full theory that'll last forever about everything. It ain't gonna happen in this universe. Things always change.
Bullshit and wishful thinking by people who had the ability to be sheltered from reality
 
That would be Japan.

  • Produce wood carvings of samurai sodomizing each other and women getting blasted by octopi
  • Chimp out in Asia to the point you’re having contests on how many babies you can bayonet in a day and conducting Dr Satan experiments in Manchuria.
  • Get ass fucked by the USMC and nuked twice by the Army Air Corps
  • Become so buck broken you’re constitutionally forbidden from having a real military
  • Don’t ban CSAM until the fucking 90’s
“Best country on Earth”
 
How the hell can you say that capitalism is transient? the basis of capitalism has been recognized in societies for hundreds of years? or did they think that societies up until then weren't capitalist/whatever hybrids? but this is beyond my reading grade to properly comment on.

Bullshit and wishful thinking by people who had the ability to be sheltered from reality
I edited it to say some form of 'capitalism' will always be there, as in there will always be unbreakable things that can't be shared and have value.

The WORST part of Marxism is the concept of 'surplus value of labor', IE profit, which is considered 'evil'. I'm not willing or able today to explain it, and don't look, that up on wikipedia because it'll cover for it. It devolves into the same shit we've seen in BLM/Metoo about 'exploitation'

Looking it up quick, maybe this: https://mises.org/mises-wire/marxisms-fragile-foundation-labor-theory-value

Bu most techbros, and google and trannies fall for that idealism.
 
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