Dunno, from what we see, lots of Tankies like Hasan love and worship China and use it as an example for why socialism "works"
No, they often praise them and use them as examples of how "communism works" and often state that other communist states that fell were "not real communism"
We must be looking at very different crowds of leftards, because I've seen even no small number of Redditors shitting on Hasan for being the textbook exemplar of a loathsome champagne socialist, shocking Kaya, etc. and on China for violating central tenets of Marxism in the name of pragmatism. Being a big fan of Mao & thinking Deng betrayed his legacy by not being as pants-shittingly insane, allowing market reforms & so on is a hallmark of tankie thought (just as they like to give late-stage Lenin crap for employing the New Economic Plan).
I have never said that the Christians of those era didn't believe in Christianity, I said that they simply rejected the bad parts of Christianity and reformed it to a functional working system to create functional working society.
Do you really think every Communist in China doesn't genuinely believe in Communism or some aspects of it. Like you, they simply believe that they are the "good communists" meanwhile the true communists that led to the destructions of nations are the "bad communists"
Believing in something doesn't make you some special authority in said thing nor does it mean that you adhere to it strictly.
You can be a believer in "socialism" but the version that isn't really socialist and actually works and apply it to real life and not have it collapse nations.
This is such a broad category that it would apply to literally every single religion & ideology out there, including Islam and capitalism, and thus be useless as a criticism. Even Britain & the US didn't implement unvarnished perfect laissez-faire capitalism & free trade with no adaptation whatsoever to the realities of their respective situations either (for example, Gilded Age America - which is what most people think of when they hear 'peak unfettered capitalism' in an American context - generally had extremely high, 40-50% tariffs contrary to the dictates of Adam Smith). For a modern example AJ (Al-Jolani/Al-Sharaa) has sanded down the rough edges of Islamism in Syria and created probably the first ever functional Sunni Islamist state which also gets along (more or less) with the USA, in no way does this erase his history as a literal Al Qaeda emir or make him not an Islamist except in the eyes of even more insane Islamists who'd rather roll with the dysfunctional but 'purer' Afghanistan model instead.
Like, no shit a religion which explicitly states that this world is a fallen one & perfect paradise can only be found in a distant Heaven you can't go to without dying first would have to undergo adaptations to function in said fallen world. The key question is whether those adaptations fatally compromise the core teachings of Christianity, the way that Deng Xiaoping had to (quite obviously, so much so that he was regularly called on it & even purged a couple times for doing so in life) fatally compromise on core tenets of Communism by being a capitalist roader, deciding private ownership is actually not undermining socialism ackshually, inviting foreign corporate investments, etc. I would daresay that not only has Christianity adapted to become the founding cornerstone of many successful & long-lasting kingdoms/nations, but its record is observably a far more successful one than many secular-materialist ideologies that are all about the 'here & now' like Communism.
If the Christian Church truly adhered to Christian values, they would be letting rapists and killers go free as long as "they accepted Christ in their hearts."
They didn't do that, going against Christian values and able to create functioning societies.
Whether Medieval Nobles believed or didn't believe in a God or Jesus existing is irrelevant, what matters is how much their societies did didn't function in accordance to Christian values.
“If anyone causes one of these little ones—those who believe in me—to stumble, it would be better for them to have a large millstone hung around their neck and to be drowned in the depths of the sea." No, I don't think the guy who said that would approve of his followers letting rapists & killers (especially of children) to go free if they just say they totally believe in him, and I think you should really look into buying a fedora or ten for even thinking this would be a halfway reasonable argument.
"For rulers hold no terror for those who do right, but for those who do wrong. Do you want to be free from fear of the one in authority? Then do what is right and you will be commended. For the one in authority is God’s servant for your good. But if you do wrong, be afraid, for rulers do not bear the sword for no reason. They are God’s servants, agents of wrath to bring punishment on the wrongdoer." Sure, forgiveness is between you & God (and the person you wronged, or their family if they're dead, etc.). But the Bible straight up says, well after the establishment of the 5th Commandment and the well-noted use of the death penalty in ancient Israel, that states still legitimately wield 'the sword' with which to punish evildoers and safeguard the good. Even if granted by the wronged party, personal forgiveness doesn't exempt the rapist or murderer from legal punishment up to & including the headsman's ax.
And you see here? This is exactly the proof and reason why Christianity at it's core was a shitlib religion.
Basically, if you murder people, you can be "forgiven" as long as you genuinely turn to Christ.
A true Christian would advocate for murderers to be released if they turned their life around and repented if they wanted the Government to work like Christian Doctrine says.
Your understanding of Christianity must come from Chick tracts or similarly retarded sources if you think this is the case. The 5th Commandment is 'thou shalt not
murder', Romans covers the legitimate use of the death penalty & other legal punishments as mentioned above, the Book of Revelation has got Jesus smiting the absolute shit out of the armies of the Antichrist & all who follow him (implicitly including pretty much every manner of sinner imaginable, and more than a few which are unimaginable, by that point) and it's absolutely portrayed positively, plenty of Christian Church Fathers were arguing in favor of the death penalty from the earliest centuries (Catholicism was all for it until literally these last two Popes), etc.
