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[quaawaa]

Not just that. The naysayers were right—ICE is everywhere...but we're talking actual cubes of frozen water, at every corner store, restaurant, and hotel. And if it's not free, it's dirt cheap.

Meanwhile on the German ICE:

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Some Euros are alright (sadly he's still an EV cuck):

 

[SwiftBucks]

/r/fuckcars has figured out where to put the mythical third places:

I like this because you can write an entire thesis on why it's a bad idea. My biggest gripe, personally, is that most parkades are about 7ft high, floor to ceiling. Not nearly enough room for a skatepark.

You could also sperg out about occupancy, because the structure was never designed to accommodate people. A fire on a lower level could turn it into an Oakland Ghost Ship situation.

But most realistically, who pays? A parkade generates money. How much could you possibly charge at the u-pick mushroom farm and book fair to keep the lights on?

 

[quaawaa]

The World Cup is the worst thing to happen to online urbanists in years:

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[The Jerkmate Joker]

The World Cup is the worst thing to happen to online urbanists in years:

It's one of the worst things ever to happen to anti-American propagandists in general.

 

[Xarpho's Return]

I like this because you can write an entire thesis on why it's a bad idea. My biggest gripe, personally, is that most parkades are about 7ft high, floor to ceiling. Not nearly enough room for a skatepark.

You could also sperg out about occupancy, because the structure was never designed to accommodate people. A fire on a lower level could turn it into an Oakland Ghost Ship situation.

But most realistically, who pays? A parkade generates money. How much could you possibly charge at the u-pick mushroom farm and book fair to keep the lights on?

Yes, I was going to mention that, especially as someone mentioned the sound issue above. You have to wonder if whoever wrote that has been inside a parking garage once their entire lives.

But even if you account for the payment and how much it would be to add power and water to everything (beyond for basic lighting and fire suppression) there's so many other issues, like:

- How is that large tree's root system supposed to work?
- How do you deal with trash? Just have some guy with one of those rolling carts making constant trips all day? The restaurants are going to deal with enough trash on their own, not to mention the park and the other five levels.
- How do you keep the mushrooms moisturized and happy?
- How are the restaurants going to handle delivery? No place for a truck to park there, either.
- It's supposed to be Chicago (see flagpole), how they going to handle the snow on the roof?
- How do you prevent the books in the book area being ruined by humidity?
- How do you deal with all the structural columns in the dance hall area?
- How do you deal with security if the restaurant on the upper level is open 24-7?
- How easy would it to be to surreptitiously add poisonous mushroom spores to the mushroom farm and have it look like an accident?

 

[Joshua Cohen Mohnstein]

How much could you possibly charge at the u-pick mushroom farm and book fair to keep the lights on?

Taxing the rich, obviously. Any losses will be subsidized because having a hecking wholesome community is more important. By the way, doing anything to make money is evil.

Also, I think I understand why these redditors are obsessed with government-subsidized "third spaces" (An incredibly gay term that I'm saddened to see members of this site use unironically):

1.) They're all neurotic friendless twats
2.) They believe in the concept of induced demand

Therefore, in their worldview, the fuckcars members would no longer be lonely if a designated socialization area was created because its existence would induce the appearance of college pamphlet diversity circle of friends they long for. They would finally be able to fill the emptiness in their souls caused by an existence of atomization and materialism.

 

[SwiftBucks]

How easy would it to be to surreptitiously add poisonous mushroom spores to the mushroom farm and have it look like an accident?

It would just happen. Growing fungus is complicated and cross contamination is a big issue. Afaik most mushrooms are grown on manure, so imagine the smell

 

[Joshua Cohen Mohnstein]

It would just happen. Growing fungus is complicated and cross contamination is a big issue. Afaik most mushrooms are grown on manure, so imagine the smell

I imagine the smell of the sweaty black trans amputee stinkditches as depicted in the illustration would overpower any smell in an immediate 2-mile radius.

 

[Agares]

It's one of the worst things ever to happen to anti-American propagandists in general.

It’s funny and pathetic how other countries’ mainstream media obsessively covers America to distract from their own nations’ problems. Seems like only the neurotic Reddit types and boomer liberals that religiously watch cable news are the ones who fall for the propaganda the hardest.

 

[Stella d'Oro]

/r/fuckcars has figured out where to put the mythical third places:
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Once again, walkable city advocates hate moving:
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These people still wouldn't go to ANY third place, which is one of the reasons so many have closed post-covid. I would love to see more third places but there has to be a business case for it because unfortunately anything free quickly becomes unusable due to the absolute unwillingness to do anything about antisocial behavior.

Multi-level parking structures are the best way to deal with car storage in urban areas. Surface lots are a waste of space and a blight on the streetscape, and on-street parking kind of sucks. You also have the benefit of your car being out of the sun (or snow). There's no reason you couldn't still do a solar canopy on the top level, helping offset the electricity consumption of EV chargers.

This might be a unpopular, but I'm of the opinion that most on-street parking (with the exception of handicap and loading spaces) in downtown cores should be removed and replaced with multi-level parkades designed to blend in with the surrounding architecture. The space freed up in the right of way could instead be used for things like wider sidewalks to support patios, street furniture, trees and planters, and cycling lanes separated from traffic.

 

[Common Landdweller]

These people still wouldn't go to ANY third place, which is one of the reasons so many have closed post-covid. I would love to see more third places but there has to be a business case for it because unfortunately anything free quickly becomes unusable due to the absolute unwillingness to do anything about antisocial behavior.

Multi-level parking structures are the best way to deal with car storage in urban areas. Surface lots are a waste of space and a blight on the streetscape, and on-street parking kind of sucks. You also have the benefit of your car being out of the sun (or snow). There's no reason you couldn't still do a solar canopy on the top level, helping offset the electricity consumption of EV chargers.

This might be a unpopular, but I'm of the opinion that most on-street parking (with the exception of handicap and loading spaces) in downtown cores should be removed and replaced with multi-level parkades designed to blend in with the surrounding architecture. The space freed up in the right of way could instead be used for things like wider sidewalks to support patios, street furniture, trees and planters, and cycling lanes separated from traffic.

Hello, as someone who studied social science and urbanism (proper urbanism, not wet dreams of some no-lifes), there's science that can back you up on your ideas. Wish people like you were the ones in charge of city development.

 

[Xarpho's Return]

These people still wouldn't go to ANY third place, which is one of the reasons so many have closed post-covid.

The "third places" urbanists talk about are almost always for-profit businesses, which require you to spend money, money that they really can't afford on a regular basis.

Obviously there are still ones that are free (that is, establishments that are in the city as opposed to the obvious and correct option of a friend's house) but they wouldn't be caught dead in a library, much less a church.

 

[Sleazy Car Salesman]

The "third places" urbanists talk about are almost always for-profit businesses, which require you to spend money, money that they really can't afford on a regular basis.

And a lot of them are bars but not the nice kind of bar that's mostly quiet and hosts trivia and dart leagues and does bingo nights. Barcades, sports bars, music venues etc. The kind of bar where you go to not socialize.

 

[Sneed's Feed n Seed]

This is such a funny example of autism's failure state:

Autists want things to just be and therefore make shit up and get mad and puff their cheeks and piss their pants until it happens.
Autists do not understand "incentives". Autists do not understand "practicality."

Autists just go "I hate cars, I hate car-things, therefore we ban cars (and do what with them) and we take the car-thing and turn it into a woke thing, and if it's impractical it's just proof of how bad you are."

 

[Xarpho's Return]

Autists want things to just be and therefore make shit up and get mad and puff their cheeks and piss their pants until it happens.
Autists do not understand "incentives". Autists do not understand "practicality."

Autists just go "I hate cars, I hate car-things, therefore we ban cars (and do what with them) and we take the car-thing and turn it into a woke thing, and if it's impractical it's just proof of how bad you are."

You're forgetting that they'll basically lie their way into thinking YOU are the inefficient, impractical one. If you attempt to reason this with you, they'll ignore you, mock you, or block you.

 

[Stella d'Oro]

The "third places" urbanists talk about are almost always for-profit businesses, which require you to spend money, money that they really can't afford on a regular basis.

Unfortunately anything free tends to draw in people who don't appreciate it and cause problems and damage. Some people just can't behave in public for whatever reason and even a modest cost is enough to keep them out. It's a real shame because public spaces should be free for everyone to use regardless of their socioeconomic status but some just have to ruin it for everyone else, and often it's the people who could benefit most.

Along those same lines, access to public toilets is a big problem in a lot of cities and a real barrier to people with certain medical issues being able to enjoy public spaces but you're lucky if they make it 24 hours without some kind of damage being done to them. Because...why?

 

[Gemerson]

Yesterday while waiting for my bus back home from church, I saw someone shit on the ground at the bus station.

 

[Xarpho's Return]

Unfortunately anything free tends to draw in people who don't appreciate it and cause problems and damage. Some people just can't behave in public for whatever reason and even a modest cost is enough to keep them out. It's a real shame because public spaces should be free for everyone to use regardless of their socioeconomic status but some just have to ruin it for everyone else, and often it's the people who could benefit most.

Along those same lines, access to public toilets is a big problem in a lot of cities and a real barrier to people with certain medical issues being able to enjoy public spaces but you're lucky if they make it 24 hours without some kind of damage being done to them. Because...why?

Well, again, there is a "third place" that normal people go to on the weekends. It can have late hours, it's free to visit, it often serves alcohol and food, and people generally go there for meetings, it's called the "friend's house". You can host or visit. I've done both over the years, it's usually fun. I suspect that they don't have that option as their houses are studios or hovels that can barely hold one person and a cat, or the houses are in suburbs, and they don't want to go out that far.

 

[Sneed's Feed n Seed]

You're forgetting that they'll basically lie their way into thinking YOU are the inefficient, impractical one. If you attempt to reason this with you, they'll ignore you, mock you, or block you.

Autists are often (but NOT always) so stupid they literally don't know that it's a matter of lying and blaming. They think it's how it should be and if it isn't they run around like a cat yowling and screaming and crying because it was fed too late.

Well, again, there is a "third place" that normal people go to on the weekends. It can have late hours, it's free to visit, it often serves alcohol and food, and people generally go there for meetings, it's called the "friend's house". You can host or visit. I've done both over the years, it's usually fun. I suspect that they don't have that option as their houses are studios or hovels that can barely hold one person and a cat, or the houses are in suburbs, and they don't want to go out that far.

Bruh, we do need fuckin' bars and hangouts again. I'm over 40 so I 'member.

Especially because you don't have to kick someone else out of someone else's bar, lmao.

 

[Jhonson the Two]

I suspect that they don't have that option as their houses are studios or hovels that can barely hold one person and a cat, or the houses are in suburbs, and they don't want to go out that far.

I too like to go see/host friends & I know you want to give them grace, but even the tiniest studio can be a pleasant place in good company and it's worth making the trip to see someone you appreciate.
Or their studio is so filthy they can't invite each other out of shame I remembered some of these guys are middle class with big houses (and big cars kek) so they have litterally no excuses.
They are just friendless. Discord friends doesn't count