Iran Crisis & the 2026 War between Iran and the United States, Gulf States, and Israel - Please focus on news and coverage, not argumentation.

Silver lining is that jews are pissed off so it must have some good in it.
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If the criticisms of the deal. that he insists are pure speculations that will end up being NAWT TRUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU, awkshully end up being TRUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU 12 months from now, might as well hand the 2028 nomination to Lil Marco then and there.
I think you've spent too much time in the hugbox. The average Republican voter does not care, in any significant way, about the minutiae of the Iran deal. It could say "Benjamin Netanyahu has to put on blackface and sing minstrel songs for whatever mullah presently runs Iran upon request" and this would be substantially less important to anyone who might ever vote for Trump than the outcome of one or two high profile deportation cases.

It's not 2003 anymore, the Republican party's voterbase is divided between people who are willing to tolerate some neoconservatism as long as the migrants get kicked out and people who barely care about anything other than spiting Israel but also want the migrants kicked out. Anyone running against Rubio could clip his ads entirely from footage of the old pro-amnesty Marco's speeches and he'd have the primary locked up.
 
So why are we even doing it? It LOOKS like a loss, and that almost makes it ACTUALLY a loss because it is the loss of face that is the issue.
Fortunately, as a real country with a real navy that is still parked off the coast of Iran and not going anywhere anytime soon, the opinion of turd world izzat farmers on what’s a win or a loss is quite irrelevant to us. The ONLY public perception that matters is what American citizens are willing to tolerate, and as long as gas prices stabilize and US casualties continue to be kept to a minimum there will be no serious domestic pressure to pull out and end the war for good.
America is willing to take Izzat hits if it serves our interests long term.
FUCKING THIS. Izzat is not a metric by which real countries with real military capabilities measure wins and losses. As long as our ships are still parked off their coast ready to do another bombing run at the slightest sign of misbehavior, the browns, turd worlders, Jews, and shitlibs can think whatever they want and it won’t change the realities of who holds the upper hand in the situation.
 
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I think you've spent too much time in the hugbox. The average Republican voter does not care, in any significant way, about the minutiae of the Iran deal. It could say "Benjamin Netanyahu has to put on blackface and sing minstrel songs for whatever mullah presently runs Iran upon request" and this would be substantially less important to anyone who might ever vote for Trump than the outcome of one or two high profile deportation cases.

It's not 2003 anymore, the Republican party's voterbase is divided between people who are willing to tolerate some neoconservatism as long as the migrants get kicked out and people who barely care about anything other than spiting Israel but also want the migrants kicked out. Anyone running against Rubio could clip his ads entirely from footage of the old pro-amnesty Marco's speeches and he'd have the primary locked up.
If you look at the 2028 primary polling and approval rating polling, Vance has been slowly losing support and Rubio gaining it (slightly faster than Vance has been losing it) for months in the primary polls, and their personal approval ratings with Republican voters are nearly identical. I said IF Trump turned on Vance. I think Vance will win the nomination, but Rubio has more than a long shot chance at it. Republican voter opinion of Rubio has changed drastically from what it was when Trump was Lil Marcoing him in 2016
 
I don't think you know what that means.

He said "They started it" as justification for his beliefs only for him to go back on that when pressed. He let it slip for the briefest moment. "I don't care." And I believe him when he says that. He genuinely does not care about whether or not the actions of his government are morally justifiable according to you or me and honestly why should he? What kind of traitor-cuck puts the hearts and minds of foreigners over his own people's wellbeing?

I like you Ghostse, you got a nice merkin, but on this I do not agree with you and find your perspective naïve. Israeli Jews genuinely do not care if they are justified or not according to your own liberalized sensibilities of right and wrong. They are a nation living on the very periphery of civilization and this is a tribal war of conquest. Might makes right and it will end when one side wipes the other from the face of the earth or subjugates them completely.

My money, incidentally, is on the Jews.
So I'll admit I lost the thread you were slap fighting with and though you were responding to the person pointing out since 1948 most muslim deaths have come at the (brown) hands of other muslims.

Re: Hezbollah
You forget to look into Arab reaction to the Jewish uprising in 1948. It was mostly gleeful arab hand rubbing, laughing as the arabs in that area and the brits were forced contend with violent jews. Because the neighboring Arabs expected to able to take advantage of a weaken Palestine and invade it. Only later did they realize oh fuck.

The jews are manipulating the media and invading towns in new york, but hey are not launching rockets or suicide bombing random nowhere towns. Jews are scheming but Muslims are inbred and violent. I want them both eliminated but the Eternal Jew in Tel Aviv is sadly the more tolerable of the two options.

tl;dr:
you can hate all Semites. Get on my level. Stop simping for Muslims.
Curse Allah and Vishnu.


Like I'll do it but I'd rather not just put it out there for everyone like some two-bit whore. I think that's reasonable.
You're a 2-rial whore tho.

fugging lol your malding about posting our brown hand.
 
I also love how when they original MoU got leaked, everyone was saying "That's just Iran's fanfic wishlist propaganda being spread by the IRGC, fake and gay", but when the White House released the real thing, and it turned out to be basically the same thing, now it's a COMPLETE AMERICAN VICTORY.

So what happened? How did the same document go from a fake by the IRGC to, actually, child, a complete American W?
 
If you look at the 2028 primary polling and approval rating polling, Vance has been slowly losing support and Rubio gaining it (slightly faster than Vance has been losing it) for months in the primary polls, and their personal approval ratings with Republican voters are nearly identical. I said IF Trump turned on Vance. I think Vance will win the nomination, but Rubio has more than a long shot chance at it. Republican voter opinion of Rubio has changed drastically from what it was when Trump was Lil Marcoing him in 2016
We’re still a ways out from 2028, I think it’s good for Trump to invest in both of them as potential candidates. I wouldn’t be opposed to a Rubio/Vance ticket, honestly - Rubio is at peak age for a serious run at President, whereas Vance at 41 could maybe use another 1-2 presidential terms in the oven to grow into a seasoned statesman.
 
If all you're going to post is "lol America is paying Iran $300billion dollars!!!! America lost to Iran!!!" please go to the retard containment thread and let people who actually contribute to the thread post news for the people who want to stay up to date. We've explained many times now why you're retarded and all you're doing is threadshitting.
It's extremely inaccurate to say that America will pay Iran directly like it's a simple transaction, if you read the MoU, it's more of an investment scheme facilitated by the US between Iran and other foreign public and private investors (outlined in Point no. 6).

The point that makes this very embarrassing, especially for Trump, is that this reward system we're going to implement for them is all simply for redoing the JCPOA's terms (outlined Point No. 7 and 8)
 
What are your thoughts on a Vance/Rubio ticket?
That's what the ticket is gonna be probably. It's fine. I think Rubio is generally stronger than Vance on policy and personality, but Vance is good enough on both. idk there's something about Vance's personality I don't like. Maybe it's the FUCKING EYELINER and the way he talks comes off as condescending, or too self-serious. Something. Like I know Trump and Rubio have senses of humor and can make fun of themselves, I've seen and heard them do it, idk about JD. And that kinda quality is important in a leader imo
 
If this goes south its because Trump was a retard and made Hezbollah part of the equation.
Did he really think just posting "America wants PEACE, so stop being naughty shooting boys" would make the terrorist cell that's on its desperate last legs listen rather than do what terrorists (especially Islamist terrorists) always do and try to cause as much pain as they can on the way out?
 
Trump lost to a gay dead fake cardboard ayatollah. Let that sink in. Trump has the most massive jupiter sized ego imaginable yet somehow he eagerly goes for a deal that goes out of its way at every turn to humilate him and make him look ridiculous. Far more than needed for any type of resolution.

Its such a baffling turn of events. There must be something more to this that people aren't seeing. Maybe some backchannel thing. Or perhaps the real Trump is a cold cynical operator whose ego is just a front and doesn't really care much for how he looks and figures most of the public isn't really paying attention to Iran. But that just begs the question why he got involved in the first place. Another possibility that he is so out of touch that he really thinks this deal makes him look good is a pretty scary thought.
The rationale is easy to understand if you've been constantly keeping tabs on the war since the very beginning like me, Trump launched devastating strikes aimed at leadership decapitation and later destruction of military assets, all the while, the SoH was closed and causing a global energy crisis that affects as far back as home (Yes, despite what warhawks say is not a concern, is definitely a concern, it may not be as bad as in Asia or Europe, btu it's clearly an issue for Trump).

Trump is simply not the type of guy that can handle the responsibility of long, grueling wars, and he wants the get the fuck out of there ASAP, so, he gets Iran to agree to a ceasefire, during that ceasefire period, he also uses a military blockade to hopefully pressure Iran into a more favorable deal, but by how the deal turned out, these people did not fucking budge one bit in those few months, and that's how we ended up with that versions of the MoD.

TL;DR: Don't believe his propaganda, the real Trump isn't the big balls bloodthirsty warhawk he presents himself to be, he realized he was getting to a quagmire, and had no choice but to settle for a previous deal to get out.
 
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