Iran Crisis & the 2026 War between Iran and the United States, Gulf States, and Israel - Please focus on news and coverage, not argumentation.

Their reasoning apparently:
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They of course link fluff piece articles for their reasoning. Very interesting.
oh but of course, those are only the most reliable of sources (even though Wikipedia allows al-jazeera, which is owned by Qatar, which has a vested interest in not agitating Iran too much due to sharing a gas-field with them) that state Iran won the war because...checks notes...the islamic republic government didn't collapse/wasn't overthrown. yeah. ok i will grant them that overthrowing the islamic republic was one of Trump's premier goals with launching the war, but still.
 
I don't know if the peace treaty is final or if the war will restart or what, but from the looks of things it isn't great. Yeah, grandpa jihad and his buddies got vaporized and sent to muslim hell where they belong and a bunch of hard to replace shit got blown up, but then what? I'm not seeing any regime change. The strait that's a massive vein of the global economy can still be threatened by them and it looks like it's going to be under their control. What was the point of using all of that equipment? It would have been cheaper to just pay them off if this was the best the US could do.

This is embarrassing. It's been, what, 60 years of trying to bomb our way to victory? It still hasn't worked. Our doctrine is wrong; it's time to sit down and rework our entire military before we go off on another pointless war that we'll inevitably lose. This needs to happen soon, because our enemies will see how weak we are and will capitalize on it.
 
I don't know if the peace treaty is final or if the war will restart or what, but from the looks of things it isn't great. Yeah, grandpa jihad and his buddies got vaporized and sent to muslim hell where they belong and a bunch of hard to replace shit got blown up, but then what? I'm not seeing any regime change. The strait that's a massive vein of the global economy can still be threatened by them and it looks like it's going to be under their control. What was the point of using all of that equipment? It would have been cheaper to just pay them off if this was the best the US could do.

This is embarrassing. It's been, what, 60 years of trying to bomb our way to victory? It still hasn't worked. Our doctrine is wrong; it's time to sit down and rework our entire military before we go off on another pointless war that we'll inevitably lose. This needs to happen soon, because our enemies will see how weak we are and will capitalize on it.
blowing up shit can destroy, but it can't control. for regime change, you need to control a country, whether it be through boots on the ground of your own troops or armed opposition taking over the country. when Trump launched the war, he likely expected a mass popular uprising after the initial airstrikes, the Artesh going rogue and marching on Tehran, or potentially both. those didn't happen and the islamic republic's bureaucracy and command structure stayed relatively intact. IMO the consensus among normies of this war being an Iranian victory is not without reason; this war gifted them the tool of economic leverage that they previously didn't know they had or previously just didn't utilize, and this also made Trump look quite weak.
 
The correct solution would be for the US to invade both Israel and Palestine and set up zones for each population to live in where they have limited autonomy, no formal military of their own, only the military presence of the US.
Wrong. the solution would be to start at the eastern coast of the mediterranean and just keep going east glass everything until you hit the pacific. Nothing of value would be lost.

Is it really a win that Iran wipes some of the blood and pulp off of what used to be their face and goes "Yeah dasrite walk away."?
The seething brown hands have assured me the answer is "yes".
 
I don't think you know what that means.

He said "They started it" as justification for his beliefs only for him to go back on that when pressed. He let it slip for the briefest moment. "I don't care." And I believe him when he says that. He genuinely does not care about whether or not the actions of his government are morally justifiable according to you or me and honestly why should he? What kind of traitor-cuck puts the hearts and minds of foreigners over his own people's wellbeing?

I like you Ghostse, you got a nice merkin, but on this I do not agree with you and find your perspective naïve. Israeli Jews genuinely do not care if they are justified or not according to your own liberalized sensibilities of right and wrong. They are a nation living on the very periphery of civilization and this is a tribal war of conquest. Might makes right and it will end when one side wipes the other from the face of the earth or subjugates them completely.

My money, incidentally, is on the Jews.

Normally I wouldn't respond to this with anything other than LOL LMAO EVEN but since you're an older fag than me and I do like your posts I'll indulge.

I'll post hands to Null or a mod if you really need them to tell you I am White as the driven snow, but I won't be contributing to the Mound Dweller collection tyvm
 
I'll post hands to Null or a mod if you really need them to tell you I am White as the driven snow, but I won't be contributing to the Mound Dweller collection tyvm
The brown fears the posting of their hands. I've posted my hand several times proving I'm the Whitest Kiwi.
 
Iranstans don't even explain how America lost anymore, they just look at you like this
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JD Vance is so far out over his skis I almost have to believe he's serious about awkshully holding the Persoids to their word. If the criticisms of the deal. that he insists are pure speculations that will end up being NAWT TRUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU, awkshully end up being TRUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU 12 months from now, might as well hand the 2028 nomination to Lil Marco then and there. Trump will douse Vance in his eyeliner and toss a match on him in an instant if this doesn't work out because obviously it couldn't be Trump's fault, or his son-in-law's, or his old buddy Witkoff's, it'll all be that jeetlover's fault (if you ask Trump)
 
Your hand's proportions look weird just sayin. No I will not post mine to demonstrate proper hand proportions, you'll just have to take Esperanza's word on it
Do you know how hard it is to take a picture of your hand, while flipping the bird, and trying to get the screen not be blurry? The angle doesn't help either. I can assure you that my hand proportions were designed to be within normal human parameters. That strange light you saw in the sky once was Venus, nothing else.
 
An Israeli airstrike targeted Zebdin in southern Lebanon a few moments ago.

I'd suggest Trump start putting pressure on Iran to get Hezbollah under control, but he TACO'd out so many times he has no credibility now, so now he must rag on Israel. Either way, he needs to get Hezbollah under control unless he wants his precious peace plan to fall apart.
 
Iranstans don't even explain how America lost anymore, they just look at you like this
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Did new developments come to light? Because how exactly is this a 'win' when you look at the proported MOU? At best it was a waste of US time and efforts, at worst................
Araghchi and Ghalibaf canceled their swiss trip for the first round of U.S-Iran negotations.
Huh looks like shit might be already falling apart
The recent defeat of the US should be a wake-up call to Israel to change its strategy, but it looks like their leaders just can't stop bombing brown people.
This framing is incredibly Islamic. Please curse muhammed right now
 
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I'd suggest Trump start putting pressure on Iran to get Hezbollah under control, but he TACO'd out so many times he has no credibility now, so now he must rag on Israel. Either way, he needs to get Hezbollah under control unless he wants his precious peace plan to fall apart.
Fuck it, let Bibi off his chain and see what happens. I miss posting bombing footage.
 
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