Why do people deny the existence of femcels? - ???????

[GOY MENACE]

The discussion is mostly about the dating scene. Sure, you could pay for a prostitute, but then we would shrink the scope to men that are not only unattractive, but so poor that they can't afford a prostitute. If that's the case they should just become monks

Women just have way higher standards than men. The incel man can't get in, the "femcel" won't let anybody in

Most woman will interpret what you said as "just be a prostitute for free."

She wants someone who actually loves her and connects with her not some dude who will use her.

but so poor that they can't afford a prostitute.

Prostitutes don't cost much tho?
I'd imagine a varying price between 100 to 1000 which everybody can afford with a week of work.

 

[PetiteFeet]

Nvm, luck won't help you. You're fucked screwed boned um...Beyond help?

Thanks, I know.

 

[lurker7274519]

an incel can pay a prostitute but that obviously wouldn't be satisfactory.

Whores(or gigolos) don't count, it has to be actual willing affection.

 

[souschef]

Most woman will interpret what you said as "just be a prostitute for free."

That's absolutely not what i said. I'm talking about them having unrealistic high standards and you interpret it as telling them to be whores? I don't know what's your age, but i'm mid 30s. I remember when Tinder came out and how easy it was to get dates on it. Today, the ugliest, raunchiest and dumbest women will demand tall, successful and beautiful men. If you don't believe me, set up a Tinder profile with some ugly female lolcow pics and see how many matches you'll easily get compared to an average man. Now imagine an ugly, poor one

The less than average woman has so many options to choose from that they can afford to reject 90% of the dating pool. So the "femcels" get in this dumb loop that they can't find the right guy, simply because they get to reject dozens of men

 

[GOY MENACE]

Whores(or gigolos) don't count, it has to be actual willing affection.

Yea but that proves femcels exists.

Woman know if she just offered herself to be fucked a bunch of men would gladly do it.

But she doesn't see that as a genuine affection for herself but merely men using her body.

 

[GOY MENACE]

That's absolutely not what i said. I'm talking about them having unrealistic high standards and you interpret it as telling them to be whores? I don't know what's your age, but i'm mid 30s. I remember when Tinder came out and how easy it was to get dates on it. Today, the ugliest, raunchiest and dumbest women will demand tall, successful and beautiful men. If you don't believe me, set up a Tinder profile with some ugly female lolcow pics and see how many matches you'll easily get compared to an average man. Now imagine an ugly, poor one

The less than average woman has so many options to choose from that they can afford to reject 90% of the dating pool. So the "femcels" get in this dumb loop that they can't find the right guy, simply because they get to reject dozens of men

I never used any dating app so im unfamiliar (im 18 too)

Christine Chubbuck would be about or slightly above average today


But due to chronic self hate she couldn't get a man

Which makes her a femcel.

 

[souschef]

I never used any dating app so im unfamiliar (im 18 too)

Then you know little to nothing about how the dating scene plays out

But due to chronic self hate she couldn't get a man

Which makes her a femcel.

She could get dates. Incels don't even get that. Their main complaints are being invisible in the dating scene

You're just stretching the meaning of words and insisting that inceldom depends on how you perceive your partners. I have an active sex life but i have very high standards regarding long term relationships. So by that logic i must be an incel too because i'm single

 

[GOY MENACE]

She could get dates. Incels don't even get that. Their main complaints are being invisible in the dating scene

She hated herself and couldn't see any positive in herself

"""" though co-workers said she tended to be brusque and defensive whenever they made friendly gestures toward her. She was self-deprecating, criticizing herself constantly and rejecting any compliments others paid her""""

So she never thought anybody can be interested in her and interpreted Evey sign of what could've been affection negatively.

You're just stretching the meaning of words and insisting that inceldom depends on how you perceive your partners. I have an active sex life but i have very high standards regarding long term relationships. So by that logic i must be an incel too because i'm single

Inceldom to me is about how other people perceive you.

If you can't (for actual or imagined reasons) see people as affectionate towards you or sexually interested in you than you are an incel.

@The_Cowcel is a good example of a real incel.

 

[byron]

 

[souschef]

She hated herself and couldn't see any positive in herself

"""" though co-workers said she tended to be brusque and defensive whenever they made friendly gestures toward her. She was self-deprecating, criticizing herself constantly and rejecting any compliments others paid her""""

So she never thought anybody can be interested in her and interpreted Evey sign of what could've been affection negatively.

Yep. So basically no rejection

The way things are are different than the ways she perceive things. It's not involuntary if you choose to alienate yourself from dating

Inceldom to me is about how other people perceive you.

If you can't (for actual or imagined reasons) see people as affectionate towards you or sexually interested in you than you are an incel.

Pick a lane. Is the problem in how you perceive things or how people perceive you? If all your romantic and sexual advances are rejected, you're an incel. If you choose to not make advances, it's a voluntary condition

 

[AMHOLIO]

A lo of people here are being hardline about what counts as an incel. And I wouldn't mind if incel didn't cover:

• Guy who's never been kissed
• Guy who got on a couple dates but never further
• Guy who has had sex with prostitutes but never a real relationship
• Guys who did the previous two things
• Guy who dated a foid but he hated her so much for failing to fulfill his standards he ditched her and went back to incel spaces

Male incels span the spectrum of dates, but hide in the communities if they feel that slighted. So you could argue that the

Male sexual capital is easy to ask for & get, while females are more choosy with their mates. No matter what, sometimes people think that women can gatekeep at all means they can't be incels. And there's tales of incels talking about their past experiences, and some of them talked about "Some smelly autist foid retard who was interested in me but I cannot stoop that low yet/wasn't interested/hated her so much I would not sex her." So some actually do get female attention and recognize it, they just don't want what's on offer either.

She wants someone who actually loves her and connects with her not some dude who will use her.

So many incels want the same thing (at least, the most human do). You can say hire a prostitute or go someplace for casual sex, but they don't want that. They want a woman to love.

I'll be real with you guys: if men can still call themselves incels and stay in the incel spaces even after all that, even having sex, even after going on dates, I don't get why women can't have a femcel culture. It's just slightly different than men.

 

[GOY MENACE]

Yep. So basically no rejection

The way things are are different than the ways she perceive things. It's not involuntary if you choose to alienate yourself from dating

Shes mentally ill.

All she precieves is rejection and hate.

Its not voluntary.

Pick a lane. Is the problem in how you perceive things or how people perceive you? If all your romantic and sexual advances are rejected, you're an incel. If you choose to not make advances, it's a voluntary condition

IT IS BOTH.

So many incels want the same thing (at least, the most human do). You can say hire a prostitute or go someplace for casual sex, but they don't want that. They want a woman to love.

In other words Transactional sex doesn't count.

For example.

I (personally) would rather have a genuine relationship with an ugly person than get fucked and used by the most beautiful human being in history.

 

[Hotmilk]

I'm not even especially bad looking and almost my entire life outside of posting here is spent trying to do anything I can to maximize my chances of getting a woman and I still can't get a first date. You have no idea how bad the dating market really is.

You should stop trying so hard.
You have way more gravity when things look effortless.
Girls, the gym, work etc.
People don't value genuine effort

My lack of charisma was beaten into me by lack of opportunities and constant negative feedback whenever I begged for help getting a woman. Everyone treats me like shit so that's what I expect to be treated like.

You're supposed to make up for your lack of attractiveness with your wits and personality.

Disregarding how gay that is do you actually think most men would be ready and willing to fuck a random incel who walked up to him? Fuck no, most men aren't gay, quit the porn.

Nah just ask random dudes for sex during the gay pride and you will get stuffed my nigga.

An incel I know was having 0 success on Tinder then he switch to Grindr and poof he started having a lot of matches.

Obviously mostly trolling if you couldn't tell.
If you're straight getting fucked by a dude is not an alternative to having sex with a woman.

 

[AMHOLIO]

In other words Transactional sex doesn't count.

For example.

I (personally) would rather have a genuine relationship with an ugly person than get fucked and used by the most beautiful human being in history

Usually. Some incels disagree, but it depends on each 'cel group. Infighting is not uncommon.

I think the other reason is that males really don't want their pain devalued. These men feel like they're on the bottom rung of bottom rungs, this is their pain, and everyone shits on them and leaves them in the dirt. If not, all help is half hearted or condescending.

I think both Mencels and Femcels can exist at the same time without devaluing the other. I understand why men wouldn't want to have a bunch of females overshadow them on it, but holy shit guys, you would not get overshadowed. Some incel men would be livid because they would go up to the female incels, ask for a date, then get turned down, which would drive them MAD. Can't even get bottom rung pussy! The ego hurt cannot share the spotlight with them. Femcels would react the same, it's a lot of sensitive people who are upset at rejection.

 

[GOY MENACE]

female incels, ask for a date, then get turned down, which would drive them MAD. Can't even get bottom rung pussy! The ego hurt cannot share the spotlight with them. Femcels would react the same, it's a lot of sensitive people who are upset at rejection.

Wait That's a great "femcels don't exist" argument.

If an incel wanta to date a femcel she probably would turn him down.

But if a femcel wants to date an incel he will always say yes

 

[WelperHelper99]

Some of you people need to go on a date, holy shit this is sad

 

[AMHOLIO]

But if a femcel wants to date an incel he will always say yes

OBJECTION! There are tales out of male incel's mouths saying some foid slobbered over them but since she herself was a mongoloid, mid, or a slut, he wanted nothing to do with her. These men are either not true incels, or are incels and thus femcels are incels.



And to be fair, men sticking their dick in you is not a grand prize. Even incels know this and don't go gay (unless they're just hard in the closet) for men. Men stick it in goats, horses, tree holes, watermelon, pumpkin, cake, car tailpipes, roadkill... Incels know all too well that some men have absolutely no fucking standards. So being slightly more desirable than beastiality is not a complement.

 

[Hotmilk]

If inceldom is a hurdle that cannot be overcome for multiple reasons, whether self-inflicted or not, then that hurdle is almost always far bigger for men than for women.

For women, most of the time, simply lowering their standards a little and making a genuine effort is enough, because male standards are generally so low. For men, however, the hurdle can sometimes be nearly impossible to jump over, especially when they are born with an extremely bad set of cards.

The most dysgenic woman you know can still pass down her genes, whereas for sub 3 men, it is fully Jover.

 

[NoCockatrice]

You made a whole thread that got to 40 pages and one of the big points was whining about how you'll never be able to get a titjob

It's not women's fault. I just have a mental condition, it sucks.

But I never blamed and never will blame women for it.

 

[Fishnumm]

It's not women's fault. I just have a mental condition, it sucks.

But I never blamed and never will blame women for it.

someday you will meet a fellow lesbo and you'll snap outta being a pooner