Why do people deny the existence of femcels? - ???????

I don't think women view having sex as a trophy or accomplishment the same way men do. Femcels as a concept I think exist but they have different motives, goals and priorities. They are not identical in nature to their male counterpart, for sure. Their main initiative it probably more along the lines of a secure relationship with Chad, not just to fuck anyone that will agree to.
 
I've encountered a number of self-identifying, involuntarily celibate women who were either always that way, or found themselves in such a predicament following the termination of a committed relationship they were often in denial about being unable to move on from. Not all exude desperation - Some are resigned to their fate from the start, or function from a foregone conclusion of inferiority, or identifying as dysfunctional/"broken", a loser, etc.

All kinds of people fuck: Landwhales fuck; people with third degree burns over 90% of their body fuck; retards in group homes fuck; quadriplegics on respirators fuck on a threadbare towel one of them draped across a beanbag with their teeth - But some people simply never express the interest, fail to properly convey their interest, fail to effectively acknowledge someone else's interest or sip the drink they left unattended, or manage to navigate the issue well enough to move on to the next step in what is apparently a mine field for them. I've observed all kinds of ladies exhibiting this quality of awkwardness in social situations they're attending with the goal of finding something that leads to copulation.

One lolcow I keep up with is a thirty five year-old virginal schizoid woman with dismissive-avoidant attachments, who overcompensates through filling silence with the sexual commentary of a thirteen year-old boy. I first became aware of her when she was seventeen; and can confirm she identifies as straight and sexually frustrated as a consequence of never having had a boyfriend or followed through with any opportunity to participate in sexual activity with another person.

Despite what many in this thread are asserting, the ladies I've gotten to express their honest feelings on the matter regard intercourse as a level of social achievement they aspire to for the sake of feeling "normal" or as though they've attained a merit badge branding them an adult or functioning member of society. It was something they aspired to check off from a list of status symbols they're insecure about. Though I understand that people fail to achieve things for far more reasons than they succeed at it, it's a recurring reason/justification I've heard presented and attested to by these dysfunctional people.
 
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she couldn't get cock
I guarantee you she would get plenty if she went to a local bar

She killed herself because she was sick in the head. People that are sick in the head tend to perceive the world in a warped way. She's not unattractive to the average man's standards

There's no such thing as involuntary celibate for women. There is though the involuntary bachelorette status though: they can get dick, but are so insufferable that no one sticks around for a relationship after the dickin
 
of a committed relationship
They were not femcels then, to be an Incel you have to be a perpetual no handholding, no hugs, no kisses person. You have never gotten any deep affection from the opposite sex in your entire life. Recieving any type of deep affection from someone non bloodrelated, is enough to remove the incel tag, since it showed you are capable of getting some.
 
I guarantee you she would get plenty if she went to a local bar

She killed herself because she was sick in the head. People that are sick in the head tend to perceive the world in a warped way. She's not unattractive to the average man's standards

There's no such thing as involuntary celibate for women. There is though the involuntary bachelorette status though: they can get dick, but are so insufferable that no one sticks around for a relationship after the dickin
She had anxiety and social fear.

She went on dates with multiple men but all failed.

I think shes literally involuntary celibate (she couldn't get in a relationship due to mental illness)

Not everybody is just looking for sex and just sex.

Im bi and always wanted a relationship first not just sex.

I wouldn't fuck the most beautiful person ever if it ain't emotionally satisfying.
 
They were not femcels then, to be an Incel you have to be a perpetual no handholding, no hugs, no kisses person. You have never gotten any deep affection from the opposite sex in your entire life. Recieving any type of deep affection from someone non bloodrelated, is enough to remove the incel tag, since it showed you are capable of getting some.
In what sense capable?

A lot of incels are men crippled with severe autism.

If they were charismatic they would've probably catch some fish
 
"" Her brother Greg later recalled a man that she had gone out with several times before moving to Sarasota, but agreed that his sister had trouble connecting socially in the beach resort town. He believed her constant self-deprecation for being "dateless" contributed to her ongoing depression."'
You even mention that she had dates. She sounds like a high standard cunt who refused to settle for the countless men willing to settle for her, she's not even fat. In today's sexual marketplace she'd be extremely desirable but would still treat all the men pursuing her as subhumans and would complain about how no man wants her.
She tried but had severe social anxity
unimportant with a woman, she didn't need to approach, she can just get drunk and high to cope, the man will lead her wherever she needs, she doesn't need to operate machinery and even if she has a bit too much and can't walk she could still be carried. Those same things can't be said in the reverse.

Some incels are obviously dudes with high standards tho?
what do you define as high standards? "under 250 lbs and under 50"?
My theory is that they dehumanize woman.
It's not like the women see us as human.
A incel could do the same.
Disregarding how gay that is do you actually think most men would be ready and willing to fuck a random incel who walked up to him? Fuck no, most men aren't gay, quit the porn.
both incels and femcels are fucked in the head

being "real" of any of these is wasting your life
...You made a whole thread that got to 40 pages and one of the big points was whining about how you'll never be able to get a titjob because you don't have a dick. I just want sex and affection which one of us is more fucked in the head?
Because men think women live on easy mode and that if we just put some effort into ourselves, we have the pick of the litter if we go out clubbing.
You do and you don't even have to go out for it anymore, it literally comes to you after a few minutes on a dating site, meanwhile men like me spend years or even decades dedicating our entire lives to the pursuit of pussy only to end up as kissless virgins who haven't gone on even one date.
I just wanna grill, man. I don't want to be a whore and I don't want to go clubbing. My list of issues is what's keeping me from even attempting to date, nevermind that I'm in my mid 30's and I don't want children. I have nothing to offer to either sex because I'm not beautiful, not funny and not successful in life.
And here you even admit that you aren't trying, where I have spent half my fucking life trying and I've been trying so hard that it has damaged my relationship with my family, left me behind in my career, and caused me to lose basically every friend I have because I was so desperate in my cries for help. These aren't even close to the same experiences.

She tried to date multiple times but failed due to anxiety.
She literally succeeded in GETTING THE FUCKING DATE that's a hurdle most incels will never clear short of chadfishing.
To be fair this describes a great many male incels as well
I'm not even especially bad looking and almost my entire life outside of posting here is spent trying to do anything I can to maximize my chances of getting a woman and I still can't get a first date. You have no idea how bad the dating market really is.
They exist, but is like they make up like 4% of the incel population, they are such a rarity that even counting them is a waste, while a lot of incels suffer from the "Expectations ruined by porn" syndrome the male threshold to have someone look at you is definitely higher than the female one. At least in the straight spaces, faggots of both sexes will fuck anything that moves.
I don't even get the claim of expectations of being ruined by porn, if you look at women 80 years ago basically all of them have the typical porn actress build even in pictures of a random street or a beach. 200lb fatasses being tolerated is a recent development.
In what sense capable?

A lot of incels are men crippled with severe autism.

If they were charismatic they would've probably catch some fish
My lack of charisma was beaten into me by lack of opportunities and constant negative feedback whenever I begged for help getting a woman. Everyone treats me like shit so that's what I expect to be treated like.
 
They were not femcels then, to be an Incel you have to be a perpetual no handholding, no hugs, no kisses person. You have never gotten any deep affection from the opposite sex in your entire life. Recieving any type of deep affection from someone non bloodrelated, is enough to remove the incel tag, since it showed you are capable of getting some.

Okay; I'll let them know.
 
In what sense capable?
Any.
Charisma.
Looks.
Money.
Even pity.
Incel as a term has gotten heavily devaluated with the years. To the point that any random nigga that has not gotten poon in 6 months call themsvels incel. But it was supposed to mean, that you were not capable of getting something with conventional means, basically the stars had to align for you to get something.
 
And here you even admit that you aren't trying, where I have spent half my fucking life trying and I've been trying so hard that it has damaged my relationship with my family, left me behind in my career, and caused me to lose basically every friend I have because I was so desperate in my cries for help. These aren't even close to the same experiences.
Thanks, but you don't even know me and my story yet you deny that I exist. I'm sorry you're struggling, too.
 
to be an Incel you have to be a perpetual no handholding, no hugs, no kisses person. You have never gotten any deep affection from the opposite sex (...)
Being an incel is a choice.
Being happy is also a choice.

The reason why incels are not in relationships isn't because there's something inherently wrong with them or because wimmin are bad. It's all because incels are too scared to commit to actually finding someone who would appreciate them, no matter what flaws they have. They constantly sabotage themselves. They are actively committing to not being in a relationship and now are complaining that they are owed something, while they're actually not.
If you want to be happy, then do something else than complain about how wimmin are whores or whatever.
Commit to something if you want to find happiness.
 
You even mention that she had dates. She sounds like a high standard cunt who refused to settle for the countless men willing to settle for her, she's not even fat. In today's sexual marketplace she'd be extremely desirable but would still treat all the men pursuing her as subhumans and would complain about how no man wants her.
She was self hating.

""""Her lack of a romantic partner was considered a tangent of her desperate need to have close friends, though co-workers said she tended to be brusque and defensive whenever they made friendly gestures toward her. She was self-deprecating, criticizing herself constantly and rejecting any compliments others paid her""""
unimportant with a woman, she didn't need to approach, she can just get drunk and high to cope, the man will lead her wherever she needs, she doesn't need to operate machinery and even if she has a bit too much and can't walk she could still be carried. Those same things can't be said in the reverse.
She hated herself to the point of suicide.
what do you define as high standards? "under 250 lbs and under 50"?
Relative high standards (like a 3 dude trying to get a 9 or 10 girl)
You do and you don't even have to go out for it anymore, it literally comes to you after a few minutes on a dating site, meanwhile men like me spend years or even decades dedicating our entire lives to the pursuit of pussy only to end up as kissless virgins who haven't gone on even one date.
Thats true.
She literally succeeded in GETTING THE FUCKING DATE that's a hurdle most incels will never clear short of chadfishing.
I know.

But she's a chronic and mentally ill Self hater.


She was probably so critical of herself and her action that she thought "im obviously fucking up and embarrassing myself"

She couldn't perceive other people being positive towards her.

"""" though co-workers said she tended to be brusque and defensive whenever they made friendly gestures toward her. She was self-deprecating, criticizing herself constantly and rejecting any compliments others paid her""""

My lack of charisma was beaten into me by lack of opportunities and constant negative feedback whenever I begged for help getting a woman. Everyone treats me like shit so that's what I expect to be treated like.
What don't think its the opposite?

You lack of charisma lead you to a lack of opportunities and a negative feedback?

Your focus on getting a woman might've halted the development of your character.
 
@The_Cowcel

What are you seeking exactly?

If a woman loves(pretends to love you) for being rich or having status.
Would that be satisfactory?
 
Because they watch too many manosphere videos and listen to hammerhand and undead chronic while they work their shitty 9-5 job at Amazon Inc shipping boxes of BLM posters and hand signs out of America.
Hammerhand is labeled a domestic terrorist by CNN. UndeadChronic got raided by the Feds because Paypal stole money from him. If they're pissing off Feds, they're doing something right.

Chubbuck was a decent looking woman with a good job, so I suspect it was her social anxiety keeping her from meeting a decent guy.
Holy mother of God, the moon must be falling because HHH has the best take in a Gender Wars thread.

being "real" of any of these is wasting your life
You are technically a femcel.

My list of issues is what's keeping me from even attempting to date, nevermind that I'm in my mid 30's and I don't want children. I have nothing to offer to either sex because I'm not beautiful, not funny and not successful in life.
I think what you're trying to say is "I have the pick of the litter but that doesn't mean I want any of the litter." Good luck.

I'm a certified wizard.
Nvm, luck won't help you. You're fucked screwed boned um...Beyond help?
 
Mate, celibate is the absence of sex. If you can get it, you're not an incel

It's not really involuntary celibate when you chose to be that way
Whos Missing the point here?

an incel can pay a prostitute but that obviously wouldn't be satisfactory.

So do they chose to be celibate?

a Woman won't just let a guy basically use her as a free prostitute.
 
an incel can pay a prostitute but that obviously wouldn't be satisfactory.
The discussion is mostly about the dating scene. Sure, you could pay for a prostitute, but then we would shrink the scope to men that are not only unattractive, but so poor that they can't afford a prostitute. If that's the case they should just become monks

Women just have way higher standards than men. The incel man can't get in, the "femcel" won't let anybody in
 
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