The Economic Collapse of 2025 - Are you tired of winning yet?

[oh no its pipkun]

gas is about to hit $5, was hovering around $3 before the jew war. The K is widening and there is no talk of recovery by year end. mostly because the definition of recession changed. hospitals are seeing less use so even those "nursing is the stable future" jobs are about to see cuts.

trump really went off the deep end with the jews.

 

[Tom Peters]

trump really went off the deep end with the jews.

Yeah and it's worse than everyone is saying:

 

[oh no its pipkun]

Yeah and it's worse than everyone is saying:
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covid was hard but i could point to lockdowns as the main cause. trump's shit is all over the place. i get why the tariffs happened and how thats maga but this jew shit and medicare cuts and doge, not so much.

 

[Tom Peters]

covid was hard but i could point to lockdowns as the main cause. trump's shit is all over the place. i get why the tariffs happened and how thats maga but this jew shit and medicare cuts and doge, not so much.

I feel the same way. Tariff's should've been done better to avoid the bs we're seeing now with the SC saying it's illegal. DOGE was really cringey and the BBB cuts were also pretty fucked up seeing how its obvious now they wanted to use that savings to justify the cost of fighting Israel's war.

 

[Drag-on Knight 91873]

I feel the same way. Tariff's should've been done better to avoid the bs we're seeing now with the SC saying it's illegal. DOGE was really cringey and the BBB cuts were also pretty fucked up seeing how its obvious now they wanted to use that savings to justify the cost of fighting Israel's war.

And the Tariffs were only ruled illegal because it was the Executive branch issuing them that was the problem. If Congress passed them, they would be legal. That's not just a Trump failure, but of everyone under him who can see that it was going to happen.

 

[Tom Peters]

And the Tariffs were only ruled illegal because it was the Executive branch issuing them that was the problem. If Congress passed them, they would be legal. That's not just a Trump failure, but of everyone under him who can see that it was going to happen.

Exactly. And they should've passed them. It'd have taken longer but he had the super majority to do it. Doing it the dumb way looks suspicious. His jewish labor sec runs an investment firm that was selling tariff refund insurance to companies and they stand to make a fortune if/when the money is refunded.

That looks bad to those of us who voted for him to drain the swamp, as does the jew-worship and DOGE thing.

 

[HootersMcBoobies]

Exactly. And they should've passed them. It'd have taken longer but he had the super majority to do it. Doing it the dumb way looks suspicious.

The tariffs changed day by day. If they had passed through the normal process, industry would have had time to adjust. Prices would have changed. The price would still be passed down to consumers, but it would have taken time and everyone could have prepared. The way they happened, with Trump changing them day by day, was fucking insane. I think it's mentioned earlier in this thread; the Gamers Nexus video where he went around and got stuff on the record from people in industry.

It wasn't approved by congress because the controlled demolition of the economy was part of it. Some of the smaller companies that couldn't afford to import the parts they had ordered six months ago have already gone under. If anyone in congress screamed about it, they were probably secretly for it. It's all acting and con-games up there.

I'm glad SCOTUS ruled the tariffs illegal because they were! The executive branch should not have the sole authority to add and change Federal International Sales Tax (that's what a tariff is), especially on a daily basis. Congress could have stopped this madness and didn't because they wanted it. It's also still not over. FedEx is still trying to charge me import tariffs of things that should have been struck down by the SCOTUS ruling, and have no timeline on refunding previous tariffs. I think it's because Team Orange is trying to get tariffs through another executive order, which is total bullshit and stretched out the process as it might have to go to SCOTUS again.

Some people check stocks daily. I check the price of RAM. It's still in the $12~$15/GB range (it was under $4/GB for over a decade, except for that blip in 2018; mostly due to Samsung's Galaxy Note recall eating up all their supply). ASRock is talking about producing cheaper, half-bandwidth RAM to deal with the prices. Slow but affordable: making everything shittier.

We're also seeing flock camera installations grow exponentially. All the precursors to authoritarianism and and control are in place. Maybe these data center companies are right about there not being an "AI bubble," because they won't collapse as the federal government will contract to them for the mass surveillance needed to monitor, control, de-bank and de-platform any dissidents.

 

[E. Knee as Weapon - Cont.]

Berkshire Hathaway is selling off some "the consumer is fucked" stocks.

 

[HootersMcBoobies]

https://youtube.com/watch?v=zyQwAhppWj83 and a half hours long

Cross post from the Gamers Nexus thread, this doco is kinda long (a problem with GN in general making this stuff inaccessible; should have been 2~3 videos in a series honestly), but if you watch one thing, skip to the chapter on Cooler Master. They have stockpiles they imported ahead of time due to tariff madness. Now, they're sitting on a massive warehouse of inventory no one wants to buy because RAM and NVME are still quite insane.

We are very likely near the end of home compute.

 

[AbendCode12]

Cross post from the Gamers Nexus thread, this doco is kinda long (a problem with GN in general making this stuff inaccessible; should have been 2~3 videos in a series honestly), but if you watch one thing, skip to the chapter on Cooler Master. They have stockpiles they imported ahead of time due to tariff madness. Now, they're sitting on a massive warehouse of inventory no one wants to buy because RAM and NVME are still quite insane.

We are very likely near the end of home compute.

They could just make the applications and operating system more efficient for the hardware. Its not without precedent.

 

[HootersMcBoobies]

They could just make the applications and operating system more efficient for the hardware. Its not without precedent.

There is a lot of Electron cancer out there and things could do with some efficiency improvements, We might see some optimizations finally due to this.

Still, DRAM has held steady at $3~$4/GB since 2010! (minus the blip in 2018). It's currently at $10~$15/GB! It has tracked well under inflation. (in general, older electronics lose value, until they hit the vintage compute era). Also, a lot of people are doing local inference (ollama, comfy-ui, etc.) which requires high end hardware. If you have a massive data mining project with 20TB of scraped data, no amount of efficiency improvements is going to allow you to run an Elastic/Open Search setup without the necessary nvme/RAM.

I'm not a huge Glenn Reynolds fan, but he did make a point about the lower costs of compute equalizing the landscape for opportunity for people to make things that are profitable in his book An Army of Davids. Even in 2009, I needed 4GB of RAM to edit 1080p video without framerates going to shit. The low cost of compute is literally what has given rise to the huge amount of people on youtube being able to edit 4k video with ease.

That era is going away right along with people with homelabs who maintain huge archives on the torrents and are running crazy weird stuff. With search being shit and everything moving more centralized, we're losing a lot of stuff that most people don't even know exists.

Yes, people could make some software more efficient, but this level of disruption is absolutely without precedent. We have not see this kind of jacked bullshit in the era of modern computing ever; not even back in the 80s/90s. It's a massive regression in consumer compute.

 

[Wherethereisawhip]

Exactly. And they should've passed them. It'd have taken longer but he had the super majority to do it

What Supermajority? The house already has a razor-thin margin that guys like Massie can easily scream about it and get a measure sunk. The Senate will not only have Thune and their 'bi-partisan' rules lawyer scream that they can't pass it under the special reconciliation measure that lets them ignore the Fillibuster, but it likely wouldn't even get the votes needed for that with lobyiest money running around.

Fact of the matter is that you need an even bigger buffer to pass anything that both rocks the boat and would get the corporate whispering machines to go into overdrive. At least until midterms hit and further erode the old guard.

 

[Mike_Israeltel]

They kept saying "supermajority" in the last UK election, but the word has an actual meaning in US politics, that being 2/3s or better, enabling unilateral passage of an amendment.

The last time this happened was under LBJ in the 60s.

 

[Thiletonomics]

The Korean Won has reached a 17-year low against the USD, breaking the 1,560 KRW mark. / Archive

The Korean won weakened beyond the 1,560-per-dollar mark in overnight trading Friday and early Saturday, falling to its lowest level in 17 years as a stronger dollar and continued foreign selling weighed on the currency.

The exchange rate climbed as high as 1,561.5 won per dollar in overnight trading before ending at 1,559.0. The move marked the weakest level for the won since March 2009 during the global financial crisis.

The won had already weakened to 1,549.1 per dollar during regular trading Friday before the exchange rate closed the daytime session at 1,539.1 won per dollar. It then accelerated sharply after the release of stronger-than-expected U.S. employment data, breaking through the psychologically significant 1,550 and 1,560 levels in succession.

Market watchers attributed the latest surge in the exchange rate to a combination of factors, including a stronger dollar, continued foreign selling of Korean equities and concerns over the economic impact of the prolonged conflict in the Middle East.

The U.S. jobs report reinforced expectations that the Federal Reserve could keep interest rates elevated for longer, boosting the dollar.

Finance authorities have sought to calm markets, warning against excessive volatility and pledging to take action if necessary. However, the won continued to weaken despite the government's verbal intervention efforts.

While economists note that South Korea's economic fundamentals differ markedly from those during the global financial crisis, the return to exchange-rate levels last seen in 2009 has heightened attention on the currency's rapid decline.

And I though the Japanese Yen dropping to the 160+ mark was bad.

 

[Cpt. Stud Beefpile]

And I though the Japanese Yen dropping to the 160+ mark was bad.

Japan's government resorted to the Jeetpocalypse to deal with their low birthrates and the JSDF sadly didn't stage a coup.

But Korea has birthrates at "imminent extinction" levels and shares a land bridge with a hostile neighbor and the Red Zerg just north of them.