r/fuckcars / Not Just Bikes / Urbanists / New Urbanism / Car-Free / Anti-Car - People and grifters who hate personal transport, freedom, cars, roads, suburbs, and are obsessed with city planning and urban design

[quaawaa]

NYC has a lot of elevated highways and rail lines that have had zero maintenance and could collapse at any moment. Urbanists are actually hoping for Brooklyn-Queens Expressway to collapse so they can get rid of it like San Francisco did with the Embarcadero Freeway after an earthquake (which resulted in the Golden Gate Bridge being disconnected from the highway system). This is despite the fact that it's a vital freight link for all of Long Island including Brooklyn and Queens.

Example from CityNerd:

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Spoiler: YouTube

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He argues that the highway doesn't move freight:

The other argument that tends to be persuasive with politicians on any kind of freeway project is that freight movement is critical to the city's economy, and this is a freight corridor. I am a little sympathetic to that. Freight movement is important, but I'm just skeptical how useful a facility like this is for freight movement when the vast majority of vehicles clogging it up don't appear to be moving any cargo other than the drivers themselves. There was a time when a lot more heavy industry existed along this corridor, and the argument made more sense. But it's 2026. There's been a lot of residential conversion. Freight movement is still important, but the nature of it and the technology behind it have evolved enormously since the BQE was built. So, the BQE is an artifact of a certain era in the city's history. But the question New Yorkers really need to ask is, what kind of city do we want?

These are the people who think themselves to be expert city designers.

Also, every other argument in the video applies to NYC's elevated subway lines (most of which are about aesthetics and noise), but you'll never see him bring that up. NYC's subways are insanely loud, far louder than any highway I've ever heard.

 

[Rainbow Child]

European houses don't have any of that,

Right, and brandnew luxury cardboard houses in the good ol' US of A don't either.

and if you want to build a meme house aligned perfectly with the sun and so sealed it will trap in your own farts, it will be far more expensive than just getting a window unit.

An insulationmaxxed house pays for itself in 15 years. A properly designed window costs nothing more than an improperly designed one. Funny that we went from felting the Europoors for their lack of A/C to pretend-coping that spending energy is cheaper than conserving it. More funny that we went from "seal the house so the a/c works" to "a venturi breeze traps the farts inside".

 

[Uncle Roger]

I don't know how these Urbanists want me to walk anywhere when these assholes are making it so I can't use the sidewalk

I once watched some twenty year old retard with a kid no older than seven riding WITH HER on the scooter (no helmets, duh) overtake me going AT LEAST 20 on the sidewalk. I had over the ear headphones on so there’s no way she didn’t know that I could not hear her coming let alone see her dumb ass. Imagine if I had stepped out at the last second or she hit a rock LOL that kid would’ve been a vegetable almost instantly from that fall.

Bikers are retards but e-bikers and scooter riders are fucking single cell organisms employed as kamikaze pilots. I hope they all get hit by a car.

 

[Xarpho's Return]

Right, and brandnew luxury cardboard houses in the good ol' US of A don't either.

The build quality of American houses isn't great but they're not uninsulated like the Europoors on Bluesky/X are claiming.

An insulationmaxxed house pays for itself in 15 years. A properly designed window costs nothing more than an improperly designed one.

Bringing this back to transit, the "pay for itself in X years" is the excuse that mass transit proponents will use when it comes to failprojects, often not accounting for maintenance and operation costs.

These are the people who think themselves to be expert city designers.

I've long speculated ITT that these types don't understand basic logistics, and this proves it. He seems to not really connect that when it comes to freight that's not just from or two heavy manufacturing, it's everything. You need trucks to supply retail stores and vehicles to deliver goods and services to residential units, with some of their street plans antagonistic to even box trucks. Can these guys even explain how one might deliver a new refrigerator to some of the most difficult-to-access bughives?

 

[Rainbow Child]

The build quality of American houses isn't great but they're not uninsulated like the Europoors on Bluesky/X are claiming.

Controlled Opp red team / blue team Stallmaxxing.

the "pay for itself in X years" is the excuse that mass transit proponents will use when it comes to failprojects, often not accounting for maintenance and operation costs.

Maths > Vibes

 

[dame dudi jench]

What even is "white" then nigga

My logic is this: "white" is a kiked term used to lump together all light skinned Europeans into the group of an imaginary oppressor, so I think it's just fine to call anyone a nigger would call "white" white, because that's the goal of the term anyways.

Don't let your enemies define you!

The English, French, Dutch + Low Countries, Norwegians and Swedes, Scotland up to Dundee and Edinburgh, the Swiss, Germans after they were assimilated after the civil war but not before then (they were the Mexicans of their time refusing to assimilate linguistically). The Irish, South Europeans, Slavs lack the genetic and cultural heritage to run a high-trust society. If the Italians hadn't come to USA no mafia no corruption in NJ and NY, just like how if we didn't have mass latam immigration today we wouldn't have the drug war, or ms-13 and the thousand other gangs currently plaguing the south and west.

 

[MIU]

South Europeans [...] lack the genetic and cultural heritage to run a high-trust society.

 

[The_Cowcel]

Freight movement is still important, but the nature of it and the technology behind it have evolved enormously since the BQE was built. So, the BQE is an artifact of a certain era in the city's history

What innovations in freight logistics could he even be talking about that would negate the need for a highway? I can't think of anything that's actually in widespread use and even as speculative technology all I can think of would maybe be like one of those food delivery robots... which actually is exactly the sort of bug brained idea I could see these these people advocating for, then when robberies skyrocket with the usual suspects at fault they'd advocate for lighter sentencing because how could you expect the poor POCs to not break open the loot crates.

Bikers are retards but e-bikers and scooter riders are fucking single cell organisms employed as kamikaze pilots. I hope they all get hit by a car.

Very lame and gay. E-bikes are almost like motorcycles you can drive on the sidewalk, they're badass. I don't see why you're walking on a sidewalk other than directly outside of a store, it's hard on your body as exercise compared to other low impact options and it's incredibly slow as a means of transportation. Join the E-bike future or get left behind in the dust like the urbanists who demand that cars be banned so they can walk in the fucking street. You don't even have the excuse of not having a license, they're called DUIcycles for a reason.

They're dangerous but gambling with personal injury isn't much different than gambling with the financial injury of a car accident and there are plenty of other dangers that are accepted as parts of daily life, especially in certain industries. You genuinely seem like the type who would have opposed cars and motorcycles if you were around during the turn of the 20th century.

 

[ChompChomp]

Problem is that old people tend to not drink enough water and are generally not that great at taking care of themselves anymore, so the increasingly common heatwaves will fuck them up.

Doesn't sound like a problem...

 

[Uncle Roger]

don't see why you're walking on a sidewalk other than directly outside of a store, it's hard on your body as exercise compared to other low impact options and it's incredibly slow as a means of transportation.

lol fat

 

[Sleazy Car Salesman]

Maths

Commonwealth detected. Opinion rejected.

 

[TowinKarz]

The build quality of American houses isn't great but they're not uninsulated like the Europoors on Bluesky/X are claiming.


Bringing this back to transit, the "pay for itself in X years" is the excuse that mass transit proponents will use when it comes to failprojects, often not accounting for maintenance and operation costs.


I've long speculated ITT that these types don't understand basic logistics, and this proves it. He seems to not really connect that when it comes to freight that's not just from or two heavy manufacturing, it's everything. You need trucks to supply retail stores and vehicles to deliver goods and services to residential units, with some of their street plans antagonistic to even box trucks. Can these guys even explain how one might deliver a new refrigerator to some of the most difficult-to-access bughives?

I want him to sit alongside that road and count every commercial vehicle and then watch the fireworks as he tries to dismiss the thousands of box trucks and whatnot that aren't cars as not counting somehow- they're why we don't have railroad tracks running up the middle of the town street anymore, or a freight station down by the passenger station you have to go to with a truck to pick up things that now can come right to your driveway.

Not just deliveries, but, commercial services that have to bring their gear with them - like, it's not reasonable to think that if you need an exterminator or plumber or carpenter that they're going to lug that all in on a bike.....

 

[MIU]

A/C is gay because it's "active" (it needs a motor to work). Passive cooling is the baller solution.

Windows and eaves designed to the altitude of the sun, to cast shade in summer and absorb light in the winter.

Venturi effect / Chimney effect.

Evaporation (i.e. sweating for buildings) / capillary action.

Insulationmaxxing.

High thermal mass maxxing.

Et cetera.

Sticking the ass end of a refrigerator out your window is the bugman equivalent of a car on blocks in the front yard.

A/C is hack. In that sense, it's not the car on blocks in the front yard, it's the 2x4 holding the leaning fence up.

My house got all dat and my room was still an oven in the summer and I often had to sit in my underwear with a fan blowing directly at me while sweating buckets. You can cope all you want but AC is just objectively a nice thing to have.

 

[SwiftBucks]

Venturi effect / Chimney effect.

They actually designed houses in the US for this specifically around the 1700s. They had opening hatches in the roof and special windows or smth on the bottom and houses were very comfortable in the summer because of it.

The unfortunate side effect is that moving air in a natural chimney effect turns the house into a very efficient furnace when there is a fire.

 

[Baraka Obama]

IDK why anyone would argue against having air conditioning. That's just poverty cope.

Edit: I had to replace my whole house AC recently. I sprung for a Lennox model. All in it cost less than $3000 USD. I'll assume it breaks 1 day after the 10 year warranty ends it's $300 per year -- yes I am more than happy to pay that much to not become a baked potato even just a few weeks a year.

Even if you were poor a window unit is like $100, you could put that in each bedroom and be very happy.

 

[quaawaa]

/r/fuckcars doesn't like being accused of being paid propagandists:



How dare you think the past was good?:


What inner-city ghetto did this guy grow up in?:


Suburbs exploit minorities:


White people = fascists:


Muh subsidies:


Of course they hate kids:


Source (Archive)

 

[Scientifically Inaccurate]

Of course they hate kids:
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- You are being manipulated to hate these things.
- Ha! I hate those things! Take that!

 

[Xarpho's Return]

/r/fuckcars doesn't like being accused of being paid propagandists:

Classic "likes it to dish it, can't take it".

 

[The Jewel of the Nile]

How dare you think the past was good?:

The 50s were the good old days precisely because of racial segregation

 

[MIU]

The 50s were the good old days precisely because of racial segregation

Bih you live in Poland how much segregation do you even need