Ask men why they do things the way they do and maybe you'll get an honest answer

I have never despaired more about finding a healthy relationship (or any relationship) than reading the last ten pages of this thread.
While the overall dating scene is bad right now it's not nearly as bad as the Internet makes it out to be. In my experience Facebook Dating is the "best" of the dating apps for finding a relationship. Tinder is going to be the best for hookups, and Bumble is a mix.
 
Catching up on this thread just reminded me that apparently in Canada if you live with your girlfriend for 12 months, she can claim to be your common law wife and will be entitled to alimony lmao.
If the state can avoid paying, they'll do so. marriage rates down? Just make people living together count.
 
While the overall dating scene is bad right now it's not nearly as bad as the Internet makes it out to be. In my experience Facebook Dating is the "best" of the dating apps for finding a relationship. Tinder is going to be the best for hookups, and Bumble is a mix.
Isn't Facebook dating nothing but darkies and old women?
If the state can avoid paying, they'll do so. marriage rates down? Just make people living together count.
Common law marriage was installed to protect women against men who would live with them and refuse to marry. Saying you aren't responsible because you aren't married despite living like a couple for years was an obvious loop hole.

Canada's bigger fuck up is they will make you pay child support on a child that isn't yours. If you find out your wife cheated on you and got pregnant, raised the kid for a year then found out. They will try to make you pay child support for it as you "took responsibility." Despite it being an obvious situation where you would until you discovered the truth.
 
I know plenty of men who hate their wives, but not enough to sacrifice half their net worth.

Did someone ask why men cheat? It's usually not because the guy's just a poonhound. It's usually because someone paid more attention to him than his wife did. If you're a married woman, you should occasionally ask yourself, "What would another woman have to do to make him feel more valuable to her than I do?" If it's "ask him how his day was and smile at him," he's probably already cheating on you. On the other hand, if you're single and want to wreck a home, that's how you do it.
The context of this was men getting into relationships for convenience. If a marriage fails it's because the people failed to maintain their marriage. It's an illness of sorts. The intent was not to just use the woman. The lingering is because of fear, not because of exploitation. It would be similar to a women not wanting to end a relationship because she feared retaliation or maybe can't bear the thought of emotionally hurting them.

My point is that if a man sticks around when dating you long term he probably actually likes you, instead of just using you for sex because no one better has come along.


Exceptions prove the rule
That's not what that means. The construction for this context would be something like:

A statue codifying "women don't pay child support" implies 1) people are subject to paying child support and 2) except if they are women - therefore men are subject to paying child support because men are people, and if they weren't subject to it they would also be listed as an exception.

The exception to your rule just proves your rule is false.
 
If a marriage fails it's because the people failed to maintain their marriage.
This isn't true. Because that's not how reality works. People change over time, their goals in life change over time. You can get married after 3 years together and at 10 years be totally different people. You may decide you want to live closer to your family or to move to another part of the country. They may not want to do that. What you need as a person and what will torment you if you just ignore it is the opposite of what they need. The marriage didn't fail because you didn't try, it failed because you grew as people. If someone wants kids and someone is infertile. No one is at fault but it fails.
A statue codifying "women don't pay child support" implies 1) people are subject to paying child support and 2) except if they are women - therefore men are subject to paying child support because men are people, and if they weren't subject to it they would also be listed as an exception.
I'd bother but why even try at this point? The legal system treats women differently to men. Always has ans always will. So there's no "person" involved. There are totally different legal systems with different punishments and rewards. If you can't understand that then why bother even talking to you?
 
Catching up on this thread just reminded me that apparently in Canada if you live with your girlfriend for 12 months, she can claim to be your common law wife and will be entitled to alimony lmao.
Most US states have common law marriage as well.

This isn't true. Because that's not how reality works. People change over time, their goals in life change over time. You can get married after 3 years together and at 10 years be totally different people. You may decide you want to live closer to your family or to move to another part of the country. They may not want to do that. What you need as a person and what will torment you if you just ignore it is the opposite of what they need. The marriage didn't fail because you didn't try, it failed because you grew as people. If someone wants kids and someone is infertile. No one is at fault but it fails.
Hands that cheated on his wife after 10 years of marriage typed this. "Just being a different person after 10 years" and abandoning your family to go live with your mom is not healthy or normal. It's a choice. It's failing at your marriage.
 
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Most US states have common law marriage as well.
Most don't actually, less than 10 actively have it. Regardless, the conditions for common law marriages typically require that the couple make a point of declaring themselves to be married: referring to each other as husband/wife, wearing rings, filing taxes as a couple, etc.

What's funny to me about Canada is just being able to declare someone your spouse after living together for 12 months, regardless of whatever your intentions with that person were. Despite how expensive Canada is, they've created a huge disincentive to cohabit. Imagine having a roommate and then a year later, bro informs you you're now his husband. :story:

Common law marriage was installed to protect women against men who would live with them and refuse to marry. Saying you aren't responsible because you aren't married despite living like a couple for years was an obvious loop hole.
Lol no. Common law marriage mostly existed mostly on frontiers for couples that wanted to get married but didn't have ready access to a priest or judge. Cohabiting was very taboo for a unmarried couple (sometimes illegal under fornication laws) until about the last century.

Canada's bigger fuck up is they will make you pay child support on a child that isn't yours. If you find out your wife cheated on you and got pregnant, raised the kid for a year then found out. They will try to make you pay child support for it as you "took responsibility."
Pretty sure this happens in the US too unfortunately.
 
Most don't actually, less than 10 actively have it. Regardless, the conditions for common law marriages typically require that the couple make a point of declaring themselves to be married: referring to each other as husband/wife, wearing rings, filing taxes as a couple, etc.
Even so, living with a woman for 15 years and having three kids with her and thinking you're financially in the clear if you decide to just walk away is beyond retarded. Lolberts love to fantasize that they would totally be extremely careful to ensure they'd avoid commingling assets, and thus avoid any intervention of the courts should they decide to simply walk away from the relationship (which they also have to fantasize about having), but nobody actually is, and very few women are truly retarded enough to let that happen to them.

Despite how expensive Canada is, they've created a huge disincentive to cohabit.
Canada...is...more based...than...America??? Bros, I don't feel so good.
 
Even so, living with a woman for 15 years and having three kids with her and thinking you're financially in the clear if you decide to just walk away is beyond retarded. Lolberts love to fantasize that they would totally be extremely careful to ensure they'd avoid commingling assets, and thus avoid any intervention of the courts should they decide to simply walk away from the relationship (which they also have to fantasize about having), but nobody actually is, and very few women are truly retarded enough to let that happen to them.
I mean I agree with this, but still if you love a woman enough to be with her for 15 years and have three children with her then it begs the question why haven't you proposed to her? If you get a longtime girlfriend pregnant the honorable thing to do here is to propose to her so she doesn't have to experience the shame of having children out of wedlock.

Then again, maybe I'm just old fashioned. Maybe people just aren't as ashamed of this as they have been in the past. But as you pointed out, most women (I hope) have enough self worth to not tolerate this.
 
I mean I agree with this, but still if you love a woman enough to be with her for 15 years and have three children with her then it begs the question why haven't you proposed to her? If you get a longtime girlfriend pregnant the honorable thing to do here is to propose to her so she doesn't have to experience the shame of having children out of wedlock.

Then again, maybe I'm just old fashioned. Maybe people just aren't as ashamed of this as they have been in the past. But as you pointed out, most women (I hope) have enough self worth to not tolerate this.
I've argued with a few women, online to be fair, that they didn't need to actually marry your long time boyfriend that it's just a piece of paper. Women are not immune to game or to being fucking retarded. I don't think shame is as big a factor nowadays anyway.
 
I've argued with a few women, online to be fair, that they didn't need to actually marry your long time boyfriend that it's just a piece of paper. Women are not immune to game or to being fucking retarded. I don't think shame is as big a factor nowadays anyway.
What a shame for society to have such low standards. I am old fashioned but not unrealistic, I understand it but I still make the distinction between secular marriage as an essentially legal contract and marriage as a sacrament within the Church. The latter is the one that actually matters to me.
 
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