This is a long and thorough post but it totally analyses and explains some of the most outrageously pro-fatlogic things Boogie has said and why people should stop praising and lauding him. We love him but make of what I show in this post what you will...
Boogie is often praised as “destroying Fatlogic” but he’s actually got one of the worst fat logic mentalities I have ever seen . If you actually find his posts you will find he has said the most outrageous excuses and fat logic. His greatest achievement however is being able to maintain his weight on 2000 calories for weeks at a time. He says this all with a straight face. He wants to be validated as a no nonsense fat dude who doesn’t tolerate fat logic and doesn’t make excuses yet he actually makes excuse and promotes fatlogic at the most ridiculous levels of anyone I’ve ever seen.
Here are some of the things he comes out with,
there is what he said in this comment on his sub
"People are always saying to me that they have the 'cure' to what ails me. eat only meat. eat no meat. eat only fruit. eat 2,000 calories a day. eat 10 times a day. eat only one meal a day. don't eat at all. fast. do shake replacements. juice., etc, etc. Fortunately I can say unequivocally that none of these are the solutions to my problems. I have tried them all. Some for as short as 2 weeks, some for as long as 6 months. None of them have been able to get me under 500 pounds.
People shame fat people for having 'reasons' for not being able to lose weight. They only consider them excuses… [ INSERT LIST OF EXCUSES]
What we have managed to do is find 2 things that work.
The first is near starvation. I can lose about 1-2 pounds a week on a 1200 calorie a day diet. This mostly requires me to replace meals with small shakes and then eat about 10 of them a day. This is NOT FOOD. this is awful. this is disgusting. I can only imagine how terrible it would be for normal people but for someone who relies on food as their only crutch to deal with their shit, its near impossible. I did manage to do this through the entire month of january though and in that month lost almost 20 pounds and have kept it off. I just need to keep powering through it. Its just so very fucking difficult for me to do.”
You can read the full post
here
Wait? Did Boogie just claim he only managed to lose 20 pounds as a 525 pound man consuming 1200 calories for a whole month? This still shocks me. And claiming only losing 1 pound a week on 1200 calories a day??!?!? Someone of his size can lose that in just a day at the calorie restriction level..
Hmm?
I hope there isn’t a pattern:
Someone says this to him
"When you say that you aren't losing weight at 1200 calories per day, that's a huge spit in the face of anyone with the most basic of knowledge in the fitness world. Your body, at your weight, is burning roughly 3,200 calories a day. Just by being alive. That doesn't take into account exercise. You're at a 2000 cal deficit BEFORE exercise. More than enough to lose a pound per day. Your body is not breaking the laws of physics, and it's sad to see you not only making excuses to us (despite claims to the contrary), but to yourself.”
And he responds with
this
"[-]uberwolf0undefined points [deleted comment restored by unreddit.com] If you think you know more than my doctors that's fine. But I assure you that you do not. This is why I am not public about this stuff. People don't seem to understand as you don’t.permalink
And further down: “You clearly didn't read the post. As I said I have a ruined metabolism as well as a hormonal imbalance that makes a normal caloric load to work. I do use myfitnesspal btw”.
[Oh. And in another post Boogie again shamelessly comes out with bullshit with a straight face:
This post is extremely sad to see and really makes me respect Boogie less
http://archive.is/lajP0)
[-]uberwolf0Boogie2988 10 points 1 month ago 540, 3,000 calories a day (no one believes that though and they'll call me a liar)
This is in response to someone asking how many calories he takes in a day and also his weight. He is claiming with a straight face that he is 540lbs and only consumes 3000 calories. Hold on, maybe there is context needed and he just means the past two days or means it is a rough minimum estimate...
Oh no, he clarifies:
"[-]uberwolf0Boogie2988 16 points 1 month ago
that's not the part they disbelieve though. I say 3,000 calories (which we track every single day) and they don't believe me. I could even show you logs showing I eat as little as 2,000 in some days and as much as 3800 on others. but the average is right around 2983 last time I checked for the last 28 days.
"you should be losing 10 pounds a month on that" and yes, that's true. the math does say that. So I try to explain to them why that's not the case and they react violently and angrily and it just sucks :/
and its the death threats, the doxxing attempts, the angry letters to my wife and my family and the po box, the twitter bombs, the twitch raids, etc... those are the reasons I don't talk about it any more.
The more I do, the more that stuff happens and Its terrifying and exhausting
“
Yup, he is seriously claiming that he does not lose weight at 3000 calories. And honestly saying to his fans he only eats 3000 calories a day. Even getting angry about the idea of them calling bullshit "Don't you dare say I'm lying about eating an impossible number of calories!"
Is this a pattern I’m seeing?
Here is the grand finale. The most egregious example by far. I would be ashamed to ever say this and expect people to take it seriously.
In a tumblr post on his tumblr Boogie again tells another whopper
"So here goes. In the past 3 years I’ve struggled to lose weight. We’ve tried every diet there is. 'eating less’ aka calorie restricting. avoiding sugar. avoiding meat. avoiding carbs. low fat, high fat, no fat, high sugar, low sugar, no sugar, hi meat, low meat, no meat. Nothing worked. Even when I had a deficit of 2000+ calories a day for weeks on end my body wouldn’t budge."
Does he honestly have no shame? This is just sad and pathetic. Does he think we are totally stupid? He legitimately wants to be able to stuff his face and maintain 500lbs but also get the praise as if he had the willpower to do the right thing and eat 2000 calories consistently with discipline.
How does he always say this with a straight face? HE IS LEGITIMATELY STATING HE CONSUMED 2000 CALORIES A DAY FOR WEEKS AT 525 POUNDS AND COULD NOT LOSE ANY WEIGHT..The sad thing is it makes me see his character different as he even comes across manipulative. He lathers smiley faces and sweetness and then if people point out these ridiculous lies he says that they are attacking him and ruining his life.. He manipulates people into enabling him by being overly sappy so they feel bad for saying anything. Look at the way some of his fans react on the weight posts on his sub. Even when they are all polite but point out how ridiculous what he said about 1200 calories, he starts saying everyone is attacking him. Then he lies about eating 3000 calories and manipulates people by saying if they call him a liar they are attacking him. Even though objectively as the claim is outrageous- he is totally lying.This all is part of the mind of an addict. I don’t think boogie is evil. The addiction is like a virus and propagating favourable conditions. It wants to be nurtured, that means being able to silence anyone that points out that he is obviously bingeing excessively and not making an effort. It’s really sad when he makes his fans enablers and acts manipulative. I know you can dispute that but I do think it’s massively manipulative to lie to them and pre-emptively say anyone who calls out your lie is abusing you, to encourage your fans to police them.. I think sometimes he just tries to be overly nice so that people won’t criticise him, he feels if he is overly sappy, then he can brush off any criticism of his nonsense as “attacks”.
When he comes out with a laundry list of excuses and total fabrications. He wants to be able to say the right thing so that people just say “Oh ok, gotcha, I guess no matter how little you eat you’d never be able to lose weight, ok your abuse 20 years ago and OCD and anxiety means you literally cannot eat one less pizza a day Maybe if you didn't have the cherry on top of childhood abuse I'd say it would still be possible to eat one less pizza but I guess the abuse decades ago now makes it totally impossible. Cool you have my permission to eat yourself to death. Anyone who points out anything is a total psycho abuser that is attacking you”. He wants it to be that he can get everyone to shut up and just let him eat himself to death, it’s sad. He needs to decide in himself whether he wants to eat himself to death and be open about it or whether he really wants to change. At the moment he wants the best of both worlds, validation and pat on the back of trying but also enjoying stuffing himself.
He constantly whines about his fans being "Violently rude" and attacking him, but when he insults peoples intelligence, how can he get mad at them for pointing stuff out. I strongly recommend you check out the rest of the comments there, Boogie really has the worst fat logic ever. A lot of his fans are calling him out on his nonsense.
He is a middle aged man that literally gets paid so much money to sit on his ass and put play video games while also stuffing himself with 5000 calories a day to maintain his 500+lbs.
But it's not enough for him. He also wants to be seen as a logical no nonsense fat person who "destroys fatlogic" and is doing something about it. Meanwhile every video is a laundry list of excuses and when it comes to it, you can see what utter nonsense he tries to say.. He is trying to spin a tale where he has an impossibility to lose weight somehow no loss on 2000 calories for weeks so he can be pat on the pat for literally doing nothing… For sitting on his ass and playing video games for hours straight and eating mountains of food.
He actually makes a mockery of anyone with a brain.
Literally at his weight a token effort would make pounds melt off his body. If he ate 1000 calories less he would lose like 100 pounds easily over the course of a year.
It’s so ridiculous the things he comes out with it makes me sick. It’s like mate ok? You can never list enough things that would justify and make it impossible for you to literally eat one less pizza a day or one less coke, to gradually lose some pounds over a few months. At 500lbs you have to work really hard to maintain that weight.
I believe in liberty and people defining their own destiny. What I cannot abide is someone taking me for a fool and mocking people in this manner. If you don’t want to bother trying to lose any weight and are content in your gluttony, then fine. I wouldn’t say a word and it’s your decision. If you don’t mind eating yourself to death, fine. But have some self awareness. Don’t try and claim you “are doing absolutely everything humanly possible to lose weight” and that it’s “impossible”. Its embarrassing to see him twist reality to try create a world where it would be impossible to lose weight. "Oh I have pain, my joints hurt, Im depressed, I was abused 20 years ago, I have OCD e.t.c". There are people with satiation hormone deficiencies that are permanently hungry that are way skinnier than him. There are people with scoliosis and exposed spinal nerves. There are paralysed people that are skinnier.
Boogie always stalks his threads. I just hope if he reads this it’s a wakeup call. I mean if you follow the same cycle I will literally be predicting your exact course of action. Have some shame man. If you come here and you try and pull that shit again and say “Oh really I do only eat 3000 calorie, I really did only have 2000 calories for weeks on end and not lose weight" you'll just be embarrassing yourself. How can you say that with a straight face. Can you really go on stuffing your face for the rest of the week while telling such total lies to your fans and to yourself.
The saddest thing is Boogie is a nice guy.. It’s not fucking cool, if he has a fucking heart attack, the last moments of his life will echo out through the universe as eternal agony. “OH SHIT.. NOOOOO WAIT.. LET ME REWIND... GIVE ME MORE TIME I
DIDN'TDO THE BEST I CAN TO LOSE THE WEIGHT, IT'S NOT FAIR I DIDN'T EVEN GET TO TRY”. It’s sad, we are watching him kill himself in an undignified way at best and at worst be manipulative and lie to his fans. He needs love and support but people need to stop enabling him and swallowing it when he comes out with bizarre excuses and exaggerations.
If you see the comments in the most recent post he was in on the front page of /r/videos a lot of people are calling out his behaviour as he has been acting up in this way for so long that it has become transparent to people that he is all talk. He thrives off the validation but his actual actions are totally different. He really needs self awareness.[/sneed][/sneed]
