Iran Crisis & the 2026 War between Iran and the United States, Gulf States, and Israel - Please focus on news and coverage, not argumentation.

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And the only party that has actually gained from this is Israel which is grabbing the opportunity to invade its neighbours.
Angloids will never stop simping for Mussulman Schutzstaffel larper group #572483 Hezbollah, it's very weird they were doing it even before their island got stuffed full of browns
 
Put some ice on your nuts and wait until Monday before going "it's jover..."
Hell, I'm fine waiting past Monday, especially with all the rumors of Trump wanting to wait until after his China trip to refocus completely on Iran.
It's more the anxiety that Trump will rush into a shitty deal that Iran will never honor than anything. Thankfully, their continued intransigence isn't allowing him to cut and run while saving face.
 
On its face "we're only 3-4 months away from total economic collapse!" is not exactly something to brag about. And that about lines up with the damage the blockade is causing every day it goes on.
Again, you're falsely presuming that the Iranians will come to the negotiating table because they will have no water and a collapsed economy. They smuggle, lie, and cheat. Its a dictatorship and they will kill off millions to protect their HEU. Thats where you're wrong.

Western tolerance, especially in the US where everything is car and plane centric is far lower. Its much easier to tell an unarmed population to eat dirt versus one where every other person in armed like the US. People are soon going to be scaling back their vacation plans because airfare costs has doubled. Gas is rising and if it hits $6-7 a gallon in the southeast, you can be sure there will be a chimpout. All those boat parties for the summer? They're gone cause the price of fuel is now worth a quarter of the boat itself. Shipping costs skyrocket and the economy shuts down.

Irans leverage on the west is greater than Trumps ego will ever admit. Oil hasn't keyed in the disaster thats building because traders are just trying to cash in on daily headlines. If Trump is scared of US fatalities, tough oats. He started this conflict and made a huge miscalculation of not securing the strait. He owns it, its time to finish the job. Counting on Europe or others to reopen it is pie in the sky. He can't TACO out of this situation because he's scared.

Trump can bloviate that $200/a gallon is worth it all he wants, but the US will have an uprising or coup before it hits $25/gallon.
 
Update from Fox News, about 22 minutes ago, on their live feed that I don't think I can archive. Sorry:

"Chinese-owned oil tanker hit near Strait of Hormuz in first since Iran conflict began
A Chinese-owned oil tanker came under attack near the Strait of Hormuz for the first time since the U.S.-Iran conflict began on Thursday.

A report from Chinese media stated that the unnamed vessel was marked "CHINA OWNER & CREW." The ship's deck caught fire from the attack and it remains unclear whether any of its crew were injured.

This was the first time a Chinese oil tanker has been attacked, a person with knowledge of the matter told Chinese outlet Caixin.

China remains a key buyer of Iranian oil, which has been targeted by a US blockade in the Gulf of Oman."


Should make for an interesting who dun it.

E: got it Archived
 
It begs the question why haven't we continued our attacks? This is not the first time Ive heard of low interceptor cope, but I am wondering if it has some credence to it.

This report might be wrong, after all, its an Iranian source, but if thats the case, then why is Trump getting cucked on the Strait and appearing to be desperate for a deal?
So I'm going to give you some credit here.

Possibly best-case-for-Iran what happened with Operation Freedom whatever is that the ships passed without a scratch but came to the conclusion that in order to pass without a scratch they used up more interceptors than anticipated and it was found to be unstainable in the long run assuming we did it again and again.

I don't necessarily think this is the case, but it could be.
I give the "if we continue at that pace we'll run too low on missiles to continue sustainable operations" more credit than the "we'll run out of missiles any day now!"
How much do you think is actually true.

Feels like the report is overestimating Iran
I think it's probably true, but in a hypothetical context.

Usually "here's how X can still win" reports involve a level of "if - then".

"IF an F-35 flies below 4,000m at subsonic speeds in broad daylight, THEN an anti-aircraft gun COULD shoot it down!"
"IF the Iraqi Republican Guard can counter-attack US ground-based supply lines THEN the thunder run to Bagdhad will be in trouble!"
"IF Steiner's Counter-attack breaks the Soviet lines THEN Germany can hold out an extra few months!"

Sometimes these reports are made precisely to give leadership a "worst case scenario and how to avoid it". Of course media being lying faggots this turns into "Another American defeat, Drumpf is PHINISHED, the West has fallen"

So a lot of this reads like "IF Iran can play it's economic cards perfectly THEN it can withstand a few more months!"
And "IF Iran can dig out their missiles AND not get them buried again on Day 1 THEN they COULD deal damage again!"

Does that mean Iran will hold out that long and/or Operation True Promise 459.6 Version 2 Episode III Redux will be as successful? Not necessarily.

I'm workposting like a lazy distracted SOB right now, but I'll dig into the report itself later.
 
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Again, you're falsely presuming that the Iranians will come to the negotiating table because they will have no water and a collapsed economy. They smuggle, lie, and cheat. Its a dictatorship and they will kill off millions to protect their HEU. Thats where you're wrong.

Western tolerance, especially in the US where everything is car and plane centric is far lower. Its much easier to tell an unarmed population to eat dirt versus one where every other person in armed like the US. People are soon going to be scaling back their vacation plans because airfare costs has doubled. Gas is rising and if it hits $6-7 a gallon in the southeast, you can be sure there will be a chimpout. All those boat parties for the summer? They're gone cause the price of fuel is now worth a quarter of the boat itself. Shipping costs skyrocket and the economy shuts down.

Irans leverage on the west is greater than Trumps ego will ever admit. Oil hasn't keyed in the disaster thats building because traders are just trying to cash in on daily headlines. If Trump is scared of US fatalities, tough oats. He started this conflict and made a huge miscalculation of not securing the strait. He owns it, its time to finish the job. Counting on Europe or others to reopen it is pie in the sky. He can't TACO out of this situation because he's scared.

Trump can bloviate that $200/a gallon is worth it all he wants, but the US will have an uprising or coup before it hits $25/gallon.
Iran has had decades of living under intense sanctions. They're used to life sucking ass. Americans aren't. And Iranians know this.

I've already pushed back my summer travel plans because flight costs went from bad to "Fuck you" in the span of a few weeks. Diesel fuel (the fuel cost that's factored into everything moved via semi truck) is approaching $6.00 /gal on the national average which will do nothing but exacerbate the already higher grocery store prices since this administration started fucking around.

People are ignoring it for now because they feel like there's little that can be done about it and they're focused on maintaining the status quo of their lives as best they can. But that ain't going to last forever the longer this slow boil goes on. Especially now that the chaotic messaging from Trump about the status of the war isn't having the same impact as it was.

I collect indian and trashcan stickers from the tone police every time I say this, yet it's an objective reality. Trump needs to shit or get off the pot.
 
Looks like an understanding was reached that Trump won't TACO next time the Gulf States are attacked and Iran violates the ceasefire.
Also looks like you were right about his advisors finally cluing him into the fact that Iran is never gonna accept a deal, so kowtowing to Pakistan is a waste of time.
Guess we'll see what happens come market close.
 
I collect indian and trashcan stickers from the tone police every time I say this, yet it's an objective reality. Trump needs to shit or get off the pot.
I'm not a MAGA worshipper so if Trump fucks this up I'm done with him. I'm still not voting for a Democrat for the rest of my life but I wouldn't vote for someone like Trump again. That's what leftists, eurocucks, and the denizens of the retard thread can't comprehend, the vast majority of us aren't Trump worshippers.
 
I'm not a MAGA worshipper so if Trump fucks this up I'm done with him. I'm still not voting for a Democrat for the rest of my life but I wouldn't vote for someone like Trump again. That's what leftists, eurocucks, and the denizens of the retard thread can't comprehend, the vast majority of us aren't Trump worshippers.
Exactly. My worship for him is conditional on raping leftists and ayatollahs. If he definitively fails to do any of those two, then fuck him.
 
I'm not a MAGA worshipper so if Trump fucks this up I'm done with him. I'm still not voting for a Democrat for the rest of my life but I wouldn't vote for someone like Trump again. That's what leftists, eurocucks, and the denizens of the retard thread can't comprehend, the vast majority of us aren't Trump worshippers.
Rubio is looking to come out of this smelling like a rose.
Vance has really dropped the ball on this whole scenario, with the biggest compliment I can give him being not immediately giving Iran everything it demanded during the failed Islamabad talks.
 
I'm not a MAGA worshipper so if Trump fucks this up I'm done with him. I'm still not voting for a Democrat for the rest of my life but I wouldn't vote for someone like Trump again. That's what leftists, eurocucks, and the denizens of the retard thread can't comprehend, the vast majority of us aren't Trump worshippers.
If anything this thread has shown that many of us are Khorne worshippers.
 
Update from Fox News, about 22 minutes ago, on their live feed that I don't think I can archive. Sorry:

"Chinese-owned oil tanker hit near Strait of Hormuz in first since Iran conflict began
A Chinese-owned oil tanker came under attack near the Strait of Hormuz for the first time since the U.S.-Iran conflict began on Thursday.

A report from Chinese media stated that the unnamed vessel was marked "CHINA OWNER & CREW." The ship's deck caught fire from the attack and it remains unclear whether any of its crew were injured.

This was the first time a Chinese oil tanker has been attacked, a person with knowledge of the matter told Chinese outlet Caixin.

China remains a key buyer of Iranian oil, which has been targeted by a US blockade in the Gulf of Oman."


Should make for an interesting who dun it.

E: got it Archived
I shouldn't have believed the Iranians when they said they'd allow passage.

Just because a Muslim has nothing to gain and much to lose from lying won't stop him. They're like the joker but burning truth instead of money.

"It's about sending logically incompatible messages."
 
Honestly, Trump needs to actually order the sort of air campaign that is required to bring Iran to it's knees and he needs to do it sooner rather than later. Pragmatically speaking, a long drawn out stalemate like this simply isn't in our interests as a nation. It would have been better to simply not bother with this at all rather than do this kinda half-assed stuff.
 
Vance has really dropped the ball on this whole scenario
Not only that but he is letting inflation and affordability get away from him. He has nothing to loose by contradicting Trump and throwing him under to bus for only focusing on stock prices and ignoring the jobs market. Trump can't run again, and he has made some stupid economic policy decisions lately regarding focus. AI is also a looming concern for voters and the administration has largely been ignorant towards the issue.

Trump can blame Biden all he wants to, but the reality is, 2 years into his term, voters want to see some economic turnaround and its just not materializing. The war is not helping at all either.

Vance is going to have the same issue Kamala had when he has to answer for a shitty economic situation despite being a meme and front in center in the administration.
https://www.politico.com/news/2026/05/05/jd-vance-iowa-2028-election-00907583 | https://archive.is/wvlfo
 
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