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Some more reports based on what I said earlier. Trump's obsession with deals is such that the GCC is starting to worry that he'll just tell them to absorb blows for fear of "ruining negotiations" if America strikes back in their defense.
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Because it's drones not Missiles that are managing to hit, and even then I'd never describe it as them "lighting us up with impunity" because that both implies they had a much higher success rate than they did in reality, and that it was done without consequence to themselves (which for every bit of ordinance they landed in targeted areas they received back exponentially more)

as an example
Iran fired 186 missiles into the UAE, only one hit it's target.

Iran fired 101 missiles into Qatar, 3 were not intercepted.
Now do how many US and Israeli missiles and bombs hit their targets.

I read a theory that the real reason Saudi Arabia and Kuwait threatened to cut off use of their bases and skies was because they expected Trump to escalate once Iran started firing missiles in response to Project Freedom, and they got pissed when Trump dismissed Iran's actions as being below the ceasefire threshold.
They may have spent the past 24 hours explaining to Trump that if he wants to keep his blockade in place, he has to actually shoot back whenever they're shot at, even if it means losing his magical deal.
Can you link the source for the original context of this?

However unless the Brics aligned seditionists and traitors in and out the U.S. govt are also dealt with permanently. Almost anything else Trump does to Brics can be rolled back in the next administration.
Problem is those seditionists are in both parties.

God gulf states are a bunch of faggots.
I agree, but in this case they aren't really wrong though?

Like Iran shooting a bunch of missiles at them and instead of Trump letting USAF off the leash to turn the missile launchers into charcoal, he's just "nah it didn't break the ceasefire, don't worry Iran is gonna give us the best deal any day now".

It's a valid concern that the neighborhood chimp might chimpout at shoot missiles at them and the US just refuses to budge.
 
Can you link the source for the original context of this?
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Having spoken to a senior Saudi official about the NBC article regarding Project Freedom, I honestly think the article completely misunderstood what actually happened because it was written almost entirely from a US perspective rather than from a GCC perspective.

First of all, contrary to the impression being created, the GCC were NOT blindsided by Project Freedom.

They knew about it beforehand. Roughly half a day before. The airspace was opened. The facilities were available. Nobody objected. There was broad support for the idea because, at least publicly, Project Freedom was supposed to be a limited humanitarian-security operation aimed at relieving the 22,000 sailors trapped around Hormuz and allowing shipping lanes to breathe again.

Nobody in the GCC had a problem with that.

But here is the issue .. and this is the part the NBC article completely misses.
If you are asking GCC countries to participate in such an operation, then you need to be upfront about the rules of engagement from day one!

You cannot say:
“Please open your skies and bases, expose your energy infrastructure”
…only for everyone to discover afterwards that the actual American policy was apparently:

“Oh by the way, if Iran attacks you with ballistic missiles, cruise missiles and drones in several waves, we still won’t retaliate because Donald Trump is busy chasing The Deal.”

And this is exactly what shocked the Saudis. Not the Iranian attack itself.

The UAE/GCC expected retaliation.. This is Iran. Nobody in the Gulf is naïve about that anymore.
The shock came from the American reaction afterwards.

You had attacks against Emirati infrastructure. Fujairah was targeted. Multiple waves involving drones, ballistic missiles, cruise missiles.

And Washington’s response was basically:
“Meh. Minor incident. Let’s not escalate.”
Minor incident?!

For the GCC that was madness.

Because what Riyadh, Kuwait and Abu Dhabi suddenly realized was that Trump’s obsession with preserving “The Deal” had apparently reached the point where Gulf energy infrastructure was now considered acceptable collateral damage in the pursuit of his precious negotiations.

Everything became:
The deal.
The deal.
The beautiful deal.
The greatest deal.
The mother of all deals.
The ultimate “Art of the deal”
Or perhaps, more accurately:
The ultimate fart of the deal.

Because from the Gulf perspective, this stopped looking like strategy and started looking like desperate political vanity mixed with deadly wishful thinking.

Had the GCC been told beforehand:
“Listen, whatever Iran does to you during Project Freedom, America will not retaliate because we do not want to endanger negotiations…”
…they would have almost certainly refused participation from the start.

The problem was not Project Freedom itself.

The problem was discovering midway through the operation that the GCC countries were apparently expected to sit there quietly as punching bags while Washington played negotiation theatrics with Tehran. So the Saudis and Kuwaitis pulled plug!

Because the GCC know something US usually forgets:

Iran plays the long game.
You can freeze enrichment.
Pause enrichment.
Delay enrichment.
Sign ten agreements.
Twenty agreements.
Forty agreements.

But if the infrastructure remains…
If the centrifuges remain…
If the IRGC remains…
If the proxy network remains…

then eventually the game resumes.

There will be another distraction.
Another pandemic.
Another financial crisis.
Another war somewhere else.
Another paralysis in Washington.
And while the world is distracted, enrichment quietly resumes again.

Ironically, much of Iran’s highly enriched uranium stockpile expanded during the pandemic years precisely because global attention was elsewhere.

Judging by the reaction to the UAE attacks, the Saudis and Kuwaitis concluded that Trump’s version of deterrence had become:

“Please absorb the missiles quietly because I’m trying to write the sequel to “The Fart of the Deal.”
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I've been really enjoying this subplot.

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(she is correct, in South Asia we call it faluda and it's not yogurt, the pak woman ought to have known)
This is propaganda specifically designed to target women.

Women can't understand complicated things like politics or economics or history, so instead you show them pictures of a smirking, dead-eyed slag eating ethnic food. You don't even have to tell them what they're supposed to believe, they just see those pictures and immediately understand what they're supposed to get out of it. They see some bitch going on a live-laugh-love vacation through a country involved in a war? Then that country is the good guy in the war. Simple as that.
 
If Greta Thunberg was to sail her freedom boat, or whatever the fuck it's called, into the strait of Hormuz who would sink it first?
:optimistic: for Iran
:winner:for 'Merica
:agree: for Israel
:lunacy:for GCC state
:disagree: for other: please specify
I think in a singular moment of unparalleled beauty in this sad, ugly world, all sides would band together to do a joint strike on it, before resuming the current status quo.
 
Looks like what I was talking about earlier with Trump's tendency to try and gaslight his way out of a taco is what ended up embarrassing him with the gulf states this time as they were not having it. I can't say they are wrong either. If Iran launches a bunch of missiles at their infrastructure and your response is ceasefire violation? no no there's been no violation we've already beaten them they are begging to make a deal! then what do you expect?

The blockade was enough to maintain the upper hand as long as they were not launching missiles. But letting them get away with doing that and trying to pretend it was no big deal and everything remained the same was retarded. Not that he had to lurch immediately into BPPD, but he should have forcefully responded and if it escalated into BPPD so be it, they brought it on themselves. Guess we'll see if he learned his lesson or if he decides to throw a tantrum and make it worse.
 
Not that he had to lurch immediately into BPPD, but he should have forcefully responded and if it escalated into BPPD so be it, they brought it on themselves. Guess we'll see if he learned his lesson or if he decides to throw a tantrum and make it worse.
That F-15 getting shot down really seemed to scare the hell out of him. I think he was starting to buy into his own (not unfounded) rhetoric about how completely untouchable we are, so when they actually got a lucky shot, he overcorrected like crazy out of fear of anything similar happening again.
He should have just ridden the high from the successful extraction into BPPD, but Pakistan had to go making up fairy tales about how Iran was totally about to agree to everything and lost momentum.
 
Say what one may about Israel, at least they make use of the weapons we sell them to defend themselves.

Gulf states load up on american arms and then still want us to retaliate on their behalf while they do nothing.
 
America not nuking moscow and cutting it up into pieces while it had the chance will forever be a mistake that will haunt them for centuries.
You were actually expecting a socialist democrat like Truman to attack and nuke his lord and master Stalin? His unelected first administration was the continuation of America's mistake of reelecting FDR for a fourth term. Bad enough as it to hear from the Truman apologists blaming Americans for not going eastward and nuking the Soviet Union ever since WWII ended. Saying Americans were tired of winning war and wanted it to end now.
 
I don't think he or the the supposed senior saudi official realize how retarded this cope is.
Because it shows that the Saudi's have a eurocuck mindset, rather than investing on your own military and strengthening your defense they prefer if other countries deal with it like the US or Pakistan.
This mentality is already showing its flaws as the war itself is a clear conflict of interest for Pakistan and the US prefers to prioritize their resources to have as much hand twisting options as possible to make sure that Iran doesn't have nukes.
 
I don't think he or the the supposed senior saudi official realize how retarded this cope is.
Because it shows that the Saudi's have a eurocuck mindset, rather than investing on your own military and strengthening your defense they prefer if other countries deal with it like the US or Pakistan.
This mentality is already showing its flaws as the war itself is a clear conflict of interest for Pakistan and the US prefers to prioritize their resources to have as much hand twisting options as possible to make sure that Iran doesn't have nukes.
There is a not insignificant chance that the reason the Saudis are bitching out is because this is one place the Pakistanis actually do have leverage to pressure another country. Pakistan could very well be telling the Saudis to stay the hell away from this because they don't want their defensive pact invoked if Iran fires on the Saudis again.
 
There is a not insignificant chance that the reason the Saudis are bitching out is because this is one place the Pakistanis actually do have leverage to pressure another country. Pakistan could very well be telling the Saudis to stay the hell away from this because they don't want their defensive pact invoked if Iran fires on the Saudis again.
Speaking of which, Iran totally stood the Pakis up today after saying Araghchi was going to meet them on his way back from China lol
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