Iran Crisis & the 2026 War between Iran and the United States, Gulf States, and Israel - Please focus on news and coverage, not argumentation.

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Iranian ballistic missile with cluster warhead over central Israel.

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Missile debris/cluster munition fell in several areas of central Israel.



Scenes from Bushehr, southern Iran.
 
mindlessobserver powiedział(a):
But haven't you seen the news? Iran damaged an F35! It is THEY who will be setting terms!
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It really is a more pathetic repeat how Serbia shot down an F-117, to this day you still see people who aren't even Serbian gloat about how "Remember how they shot down an invisible fighter!" completely forgetting that that it's basically the equivalent of how Japan gloating about shooting down B-29s while Tokyo was a massive firestorm, a new sun briefly appeared over two of their cities, and their entire coastline was littered with enemy submarines and mines, and the rest of their country in roughly the same shape. Of course, the Serbians actually managed to shoot it down, whereas the Iranians didn't even manage that, either because the missile sucked, the F-35 was designed to be surprisingly durable because the designers are actually pretty skilled, or most likely both.

You see a bunch of these types of folks say stealth aircraft are useless, overhyped junk, but funny enough they only say this about Western designs, since a lot of them are literally on payroll from Russia, China, or Iran, and they always shut up or try to change the subject when you point out how literally every new aircraft in development by any semi-relevant military has stealth be (or at least attempts to have it be) one of its core design principles.
 
In general I don't think the thought process that the marines are going to take and hold Kharg is a very well thought out one.

For starters to get to the island to try and take it we'd have to just sail our naval vessals through the straight, something I don't think they are likely to do and risk damage to the ships passing through before the straight is secure.

And for second I just think it would be an overly risky move to station a couple thousand troops to sit on the island as sitting ducks for Iran to start firing missiles and drones at.
 
Dagoth AMOGUS powiedział(a):
You all need to just wait and see.

Nothing ever happens until it is over. This conflict is yet another nothing burger, compared to the battle of Megiddo which is to come. Save your theories for something actually important.

While every occasion is a good one to accept Christ, now might be as good a time as ever to do so.
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Litteraly 200 us soldiers have been injured. seven or 8 aircraft have been destroyed and Iran is blocking the straight. Iran has lost a lot of its higher leadership and is being bombed daily. how exactly is this nothing burger?
 
Fanatical Pragmatist powiedział(a):
A $12 million Patriot missile versus a $8 million Korramshar or a $20 million RIM-161 versus a $10 million Sejjil might sound like a bad trade off on the surface, but as a percentage versus percentage it might be closer to 1:1.
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The cost (value) of what you are defending/protecting also factors in and can make it a far more cost effective trade-off then when only looking at cost of interceptor vs. attacker.
 
gaysexenjoyer powiedział(a):
I mean would we even need to "hold" the island in the first place? Surely just denying it to the enemy with a few strikes every now and then would be enough.
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It depends on what kind of denial is required.

The current threat is a mixture of conventional surface-to-surface weapons that require a dedicated launching platform (albeit mobile) which has a more distinct footprint and small one-way drones which can be effectively concealed during transport and launched while minimizing the exposure of the crew to counter fires.

If the threat of a team of 3 or 4 dudes that can calmly drive a civilian vehicle out to a terrain feature, set up, and launch a one-way drone then slip away is halting traffic through the strait, you might need a more persistent method of denying the terrain while freeing up aerial resources to strike deeper targets.
 
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