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iraq is not iran, there was no active program set up for a nuke in Iraq
Holy shit, did you just turn into a retard over night? Yes, iran is not iran. Congratulations. Never said it was.

everyone was giving money to it, what saddam was giving was a drop in the bucket compared to the PA's pay for slay program
But he was still doing it. You'd think Israel wasn't interest in cutting off all funding?

he only advised bush to consider things carefully and met with him to warn him. you're pulling the same shit where youre upset that israel doesn't order the us around in this one case
So he wasn't opposed to an invasion, and deposing Saddam. Glad we could clear that up.

what rubio actually said:
What he said after the fact, after the fallout from his initial remarks. Yes people in positions of power backtrack. Again, congratulations on figuring that out.

good thing we can access what he actually said instead of media clips
That doesn't disprove a single thing I said or he said. Israel advanced the timeline, Trump just accepted it because he has no choice in the matter, and this entire affair had to happen anyway.

what does "If you're going to attack someone, attack Iran" implicitly say about attacking iran
What does "if you're going to invade Iraq, depose Saddam, but don't stay" implicitly say? Cause it doesn't say "don't invade."

that was part of Iran, to clear out the air corridor
Blowing up helicopters, warships, tanks, government buildings, etc... Yeah totally just about opening up an air corridor to Iran, and not about defanging the last bit of the Syrian army in the midst of an internal power struggle. Of course, given that the new regime in Damascus is on good terms with Israel, one wonders why you'd need to blow up those things up. Or given the fact Israel has had the power to dominate Syrian airspace for decades now, why waste the bombs?

I mentioned curveball as a side thing and suddenly Ariel Sharon has to answer for that.
You mentioned curveball because you thought I mentioned it when I had not. You then took the position that Israel knew curveball was bullshit. I've never said curveball was Israel's doing. I've repeated this point a few times now. Let me put it another way, if A) Israel knew Saddam had no WMDs, B) America's entire pretext for invading Iraq was WMDs, and C) Israel desired America to go after Iran over Iraq. Why didn't Ariel Sharon in a closed door meeting for which we still don't have the full transcript not tell President Bush curveball was bullshit. Was it because A) Israel believed American intelligence (in which case they'd have very good reason to support or favor a US invasion), or B) they just didn't care?
 
Guys.... Im starting to think there might not BE a plan
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Iran and Russia now unsanctioned, what are we even doing at this point lmao, Trumps going to find some way to give China Taiwan to get the strait open at this rate.
 
Just so I understand you correctly, your argument is Ariel told Bush to not go and invade by telling him "if you invade do it and leave, don't occupy" whilst failing to inform Bush that curveball was bullshit, and Iraq has no WMDs, or delivery method for such? And this is typical of a vassal talking to its hegemon in a closed door meeting? You are literally full shit. It would be funny if it hadn't cost/costing American lives.
Iraq did have chemical weapons, which are technically WMDs.
 
Guys.... Im starting to think there might not BE a plan
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Iran and Russia now unsanctioned, what are we even doing at this point lmao, Trumps going to find some way to give China Taiwan to get the strait open at this rate.
I don't know. Did you read the fucking article you posted where it explicitly states the reasoning behind or are you just reading headlines?
 
has anyone actually met anyone that is hung up on all this stuff IRL? I've never met someone that is a follower/believer/whatever of Owens, Massie, Kent, Fuentes etc. Hell, people barely know anything about the war other than it is something that is happening. Half these scandals I only know happened because of this thread and rage farming via podcasts.

It all strikes me as terminally online.
 
has anyone actually met anyone that is hung up on all this stuff IRL? I've never met someone that is a follower/believer/whatever of Owens, Massie, Kent, Fuentes etc. Hell, people barely know anything about the war other than it is something that is happening. Half these scandals I only know happened because of this thread and rage farming via podcasts.

It all strikes me as terminally online.
I don't think anyone in my life has ever told me "I saw it on X podcast" or reference Twitter in any way, if anything they stay away from that shit.
 
has anyone actually met anyone that is hung up on all this stuff IRL? I've never met someone that is a follower/believer/whatever of Owens, Massie, Kent, Fuentes etc. Hell, people barely know anything about the war other than it is something that is happening. Half these scandals I only know happened because of this thread and rage farming via podcasts.

It all strikes me as terminally online.
Idk about that stuff but on the liberal side people are losing their minds. The Ayatollah being dead is a conspiracy theory. Persians celebrating in the streets are paid Trump shills. Over 200 Americans have been killed in combat. Etc.
 
has anyone actually met anyone that is hung up on all this stuff IRL? I've never met someone that is a follower/believer/whatever of Owens, Massie, Kent, Fuentes etc. Hell, people barely know anything about the war other than it is something that is happening. Half these scandals I only know happened because of this thread and rage farming via podcasts.

It all strikes me as terminally online.
The people who do consume the slop rarely go outside or interact with real people. The grifters target the shut-in demo.
 
some economists have argued that just handing out UBI to everyone would actually be cheaper than the current welfare systems because it would be extremely simple and straightforward so you would save lots of money on running the huge bureaucracies that manage the current welfare programs

but most UBI support is just lazy fucks who like the idea of getting free money with no strings attached
We could probably do it at negligible cost in addition to all the current stuff, using the money currently being sucked away by foreign plunderers
 
Literally like a week ago Axios ran with the exact same lazy headline WSJ did. You should be able to recognize this but apparently most people lost the ability to a couple years ago.
Negativity induction. People who are upset at Trump for blowing up Iran are more inclined to believe the things that vindicate them being upset about it, true or not.
When will libshits and commies learn that Nicky is a fed?
It's more pretending not to understand. Same reason they have to hype up Andrew Tate as some kind of super popular RW influencer and not mostly fodder for brown teenage boys. Admitting that Fuentes is living black propaganda held up by feds means they can't panic about the incoming white (Mexican) Christian (Islamic) sharia (gay sex) state.
No one is free from an extra chromosome on this topic.
We seemed to do well enough in Venezuela but I'm not going to pretend this wasn't Trump breaking a campaign promise or that I'm versed enough in geopolitics to see how the future of the region shakes out. At the risk of having to remove fence post splinters from my rear later, I'll remain a bona fide wait and see enthusiast.
 
Iraq did have chemical weapons, which are technically WMDs.

Hindsight has always been that Iraq DID have chemical weapons but by the late 90s they had become unusable and were destroyed on the downlow or had been sold off for parts to Syria to prop up Iraq's dire financial status. But Saddam kept running him mouth that he had bio weapons and was forever close to getting nukes to make himself look big in the eyes of the world, combined with thinking his Reagan era BFFs that we're back in power via the Bush 2 administration would seek to repair relations with him to help fight the war on terror since Saddam still hated Iran and his regime was the Mordru to Iran's Glorith that kept Iran in check.
 
Maybe ICE should be sent to Little Rock.
https://justthenews.com/nation/stat...asked-leave-restaurant-because-employees-felt (Archive)
Arkansas GOP Gov. Sarah Huckabee Sanders said Thursday that she was asked to leave a restaurant in Little Rock last week because her presence made employees and customers feel "threatened."

Sanders previously served as White House press secretary during President Donald Trump's first term and has since been a supporter of the president's immigration policies.

The governor said she was dining with two other moms at the restaurant, which has been identified as The Croissanterie, when the owner allegedly told members of her security detail that Sanders must leave because her "presence made their employees feel threatened."
 
Retard, maybe he shouldn't have leaked information to Tucker if he didn't want to be investigated.

It proably started weeks ago, well before his resignation.
and? who gives a fuck, Obama's DOJ wiretapped Trump during the campaign, they commit henious felonies all the time, but so long as they are all eventually copacetic or need some uni-party shit, its all water under the bridge.

you speak out against the next Jew War and suddenly your entire life is dissected, I don't care what info he showed who, I have no idea if that's even fucking true or if its just falsified to fuck him, why would I believe the investigation into him? Remind me, did they ever do a an autopsy on Justice Scalia? or any other insane shit that's happened? you really want me to trust and believe the Federal Government?
 
We could probably do it at negligible cost in addition to all the current stuff, using the money currently being sucked away by foreign plunderers
There's a real discussion to have around the implementation of a UBI and the whys/hows. Especially as automation continues to advance, and the only way of stopping it is either choosing not to use it or suppressing it. To make an analogy of it, You can remove cabbage picking and floor mopping from list of available careers. You can't stop society from producing cabbage pickers and janitors. As those jobs get automated you either find something for people of that skill level to do or you pay them to stay out of the way. It's, ironically, a stupid problem but there's no other way to address it.
no one will ever support large scale hard eugenics. Even dreaming that would be possible is paving the future to failure.
 
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