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The modern state of Israel has no ties to divinity or even the historical nation of Israel.

They are not a part of gods plan for the end days and only profoundly retarded protestants believe they are. You might ask, "Why are they profoundly retarded?" Well it's because they believe they can speed up prophecy and force god to start the rapture and condemn every single non Christian soul to hell.

They will be greatly disappointed when they are cast into the lake of fire for fealty to Israel.
I understand that the 'old Jews' often hate modern Israel, since it didn't fulfill a lot of the prophecies. To keep it simple, no 'return of any nation of Israel can be before the the spiritual rebirth and 3rd temple and sacrifices have resumed during or shortly before/after'.

Anyone taken that seriously takes this serious
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The old stuff and new stuff isn't about precision reality. 100s and 100s of years go on. I don't think we're in the end days. I also don't believe the vague old texts were 100% direction. There's also self-fulfilling prophecies all the time.

I do believe though in he that casts stones like you do will be the ones that get theirs.


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Bibi's alive

 
I'm tired of GWOT people who are unable to do their job, because Bush+Obama sent them to do the stupidest regime change shaping operation in history and now they have PTSD, and think they can never win again.
It's entirely because they fucked with the winning formula. When you eliminate a strongman who has been keeping a gaggle of retarded tribesmen together through arms and terror, trying to have elections in the immediate aftermath is insane. Every time we installed a dictator who chilled them niggers out for a decade or two, it eventually led to a point where we could have elections and then the people can vote in communist niggers who destroy the country. But at least the dictator took care of most of the lifting instead of us keeping infantry running around like assholes.
 
I think it's good they're having a debate on the save act. i want to see who doesnt support it.
right now they say theyre at 51 republicans have 53 senators so whats that.
no murkowski and collins and someone else and then yes fetterman?
It's funny to see them twist and turn trying to justify not having what every other country on Earth has, regardless of whether or not it passes.
 
I do believe though in he that casts stones like you do will be the ones that get theirs.
What stone am I casting? Nigga, the Israeli's have murdered 10s of thousands of innocent women and children in the last two years. Yet you want me to ponder my sins before I condemn their naked attempt at genocide?

Paul said to let my love be genuine, hate what is evil, and hold fast to what is good. I wouldn't be living out his directions if I supported Israel.
 
won't ever happen, the relationship is too mutually beneficial. the /pol/ posters can't admit that israel benefits us by existing and the zion posters can't admit that israel acts too independent and fierce when they just cower behind america. the more rational argument is that we do too much for their country and that's where the real debate about foreign influence and political bribery begins.
Israel is cutting off foreign aid and going to try to create their own alliance coalition. Trump 2 is probably the apex of US/Israeli relations unless Rubio becomes president.
 
I think it's good they're having a debate on the save act. i want to see who doesnt support it.
right now they say theyre at 51 republicans have 53 senators so whats that.
no murkowski and collins and someone else and then yes fetterman?
The root of the issue is that while Republicans have a simple majority in the Senate with 53 senators, it doesn't have enough to end debate which requires 60 votes—a process known as invoking "cloture"—to overcome a filibuster.

The "nuclear option" might be brought in but we'll see if that's viable:
A more complicated, but more likely, way to ban the filibuster would be to create a new Senate precedent. The chamber’s precedents exist alongside its formal rules to provide additional insight into how and when its rules have been applied in particular ways. Importantly, this approach to curtailing the filibuster—colloquially known as the “nuclear option” and more formally as “reform by ruling”—can, in certain circumstances, be employed with support from only a simple majority of senators.

The nuclear option leverages the fact that a new precedent can be created by a senator raising a point of order, or claiming that a Senate rule is being violated. If the presiding officer (typically a member of the Senate) agrees, that ruling establishes a new precedent. If the presiding officer disagrees, another senator can appeal the ruling of the chair. If a majority of the Senate votes to reverse the decision of the chair, then the opposite of the chair’s ruling becomes the new precedent.

In both 2013 and 2017, the Senate used this approach to reduce the number of votes needed to end debate on nominations. The majority leader used two non-debatable motions to bring up the relevant nominations, and then raised a point of order that the vote on cloture is by majority vote. The presiding officer ruled against the point of order, but his ruling was overturned on appeal—which, again, required only a majority in support. In sum, by following the right steps in a particular parliamentary circumstance, a simple majority of senators can establish a new interpretation of a Senate rule.
 
The only difference is we would be doing it in Ukraine. But at least we would be a sovereign nation whose decisions aren't made for it in a foreign capitol.
you think kamela wouldn't do the will of israel? you might want to look into the tribe of her husband, lol.
 
There were alternatives that were popular. But Trump wanted Thune. We reap what we sow.
No he didnt. There were 3 options. After the first votes it was obvious his option (Rick Scott) wasnt gonna get it and it was Thune or fucking Cornyn.

So he had Scott support Thune

This level of deliberate misinformation seems purposeful.

Dislike Trump for the retarded boomer shit and jewcum drinking he does. Not for made up alt history.
 
I think it's good they're having a debate on the save act. i want to see who doesnt support it.
right now they say theyre at 51 republicans have 53 senators so whats that.
no murkowski and collins and someone else and then yes fetterman?
It provides an opportunity at least, for Democrats to raise objections and have those objections shot down or the bill amended to include things like free documents in order to make their poll tax bullshit moot. If, through debate, they can create a bill that could only possibly be opposed based on the fact that the opposition just wants to cheat, then that is solid messaging. To that end they absolutely need to get rid of the trannyshit from the bill. Make it single issue. One person - one vote - guaranteed.

That said, if they don't do the talking filibuster, then nothing else from the agenda will get passed. If you can't humiliate your opposition over an 80/20 issue then you need to go to the glue factory.
 
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