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Fast and Furious is the most turn your brain off franchise Hollywood has ever produced. After the 5th one it really stops giving a shit and you're just along for the ride
Because by this point your just watching a super hero movie where the cars are their summons/battles suits.

All the movies are basically a D&D campaign where the fight system is summoning cars to race. The franchise started out at at a level 1 adventure ( stealing DVD players) and just keep ramping up from there.
 
I hate that image so fucking much.
Wands don't just connect like that. Dumbledore's and Tom's wands would never connect like that. There's a very specific and unique reason (a couple of reasons actually) that Harry and Tom's wands do. It's something unique to those two only, that just doesn't fucking happen anywhere else or to anyone else. But in the movies it's something that just happens in any fucking duel between anyone after the 4th movie. It's so retarded and makes no fucking sense at all. Worse than that, it literally breaks the lore. Really important lore.
I hate it so much.

Edit: Also, as "alright" as that specific duel was in the movies, it was 100x cooler in the books. And it makes it way more obvious how outclassed and outmatched Tom is against Dumbledore and why he has real reason to fear him. Not only was that the best part of the 5th book, by far, but also one of the coolest moments of the whole series. The movies did not do that fight justice at all.
 
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I think he's better than Reagan. Reagan made a lot of stupid mistakes like closing down the insane asylums.
Reagan closed the mental asylums when he was governor of California with the Lanterman-Petris-Short Act

And even in the context of California, none of these homeless crazies are born here, they weren't the result of that legislation, and it's all democrat cope to blame their own mismanagement on someone else. We barely had any homeless people at all in the 2000s. You had to go to Skid Row or Venice. Now they're just everywhere, in every city. I'm sorry but I do not believe the homeless population reproduced and grew like Africans. And you can ask them yourselves, they're always from out of state. At some point they get a greyhound and come out here. It's the way of the homeless.

I personally don't like Reagan but the institutional cope is a state-wide lie that somehow went national. Federal moves to community outreach were owed to Willowbrook State School causing a massive nationwide controversy after the horrible conditions were exposed by Geraldo Rivera. They would've happened with or without Reagan, I suspect.

If anything you should hate him for amnesty and taking your firearms on the back of a fraudulent vote.
 
Reagan closed the mental asylums when he was governor of California with the Lanterman-Petris-Short Act

And even in the context of California, none of these homeless crazies are born here, they weren't the result of that legislation, and it's all democrat cope to blame their own mismanagement on someone else. We barely had any homeless people at all in the 2000s. You had to go to Skid Row or Venice. Now they're just everywhere, in every city. I'm sorry but I do not believe the homeless population reproduced and grew like Africans. And you can ask them yourselves, they're always from out of state. At some point they get a greyhound and came out here.

I personally don't like Reagan but the institutional cope is a state-wide lie that somehow went national. Federal moves to community outreach were owed to Willowbrook State School, not Reagan.
The Omnibus Budget Reconciliation Act was passed 13 of August 1981. It stopped a ton of federal funding for insane asylums which made them have to close. Ronald Reagan took office 20th of January 1981.
 
The Omnibus Budget Reconciliation Act was passed 13 of August 1981. It stopped a ton of federal funding for insane asylums which made them have to close. Ronald Reagan took office 20th of January 1981.
You blaming Reagan for a reconciliation package after all we've been through with reconciliation packages and how massive they are, seems silly to me. I'm not saying it's wrong, I just think it's strange to assign this much agency to the president for something he didn't draft. Do you really think this would've been allowed to continue if a democrat had won? The whole country wanted them gone. It had been a decade in the works.
 
oh my god guys, they went to israel.

this means trump is the fleshpuppet of netanyehu.

Reagan closed the mental asylums when he was governor of California with the Lanterman-Petris-Short Act

And even in the context of California, none of these homeless crazies are born here, they weren't the result of that legislation, and it's all democrat cope to blame their own mismanagement on someone else. We barely had any homeless people at all in the 2000s. You had to go to Skid Row or Venice. Now they're just everywhere, in every city. I'm sorry but I do not believe the homeless population reproduced and grew like Africans. And you can ask them yourselves, they're always from out of state. At some point they get a greyhound and come out here. It's the way of the homeless.

I personally don't like Reagan but the institutional cope is a state-wide lie that somehow went national. Federal moves to community outreach were owed to Willowbrook State School causing a massive nationwide controversy after the horrible conditions were exposed by Geraldo Rivera. They would've happened with or without Reagan, I suspect.

If anything you should hate him for amnesty and taking your firearms on the back of a fraudulent vote.
this is not true. reagan pushed for and signed the OBRA of 1981, which repealed basically all of carter's reforms for the mental health system, and pushed it all onto states to handle, which was obviously too expensive, and led to the failure of the american institutional psychiatric system as a whole. if you have ever tried to find a place for a mentally ill loved one in a care facility, even for a short term, it is both ridiculously hard to get a bed, and obscenely expensive even with private insurance.

i agree that reagan should be hated for amnesty and the amount of gungrabbing he performed, but it's not true to say he's not responsible for the state america's mental institution system is in today; he very much is.

You blaming Reagan for a reconciliation package after all we've been through with reconciliation packages and how massive they are, seems silly to me. I'm not saying it's wrong, I just think it's strange to assign this much agency to the president for something he didn't draft. Do you really think this would've been allowed to continue if a democrat had one? The whole country wanted them gone. It had been a decade in the works.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=qzNFRn5TTtc
that was the point of carter's reforms in the first place. the omnibus completely destroyed those reforms immediately. i promise you, the loss of mental asylums as they COULD have been is a genuine problem the US is going to have to face at some point. we are going to have to either kill or institutionalize a significant portion of the population, because they are unstable menaces and ticking time bombs. a lot of the people who should be in mental homes today are just in jails taking up THOSE beds because they have no other place to send violent retards anymore.
 
You blaming Reagan for a reconciliation package after all we've been through with reconciliation packages and how massive they are, seems silly to me. I'm not saying it's wrong, I just think it's strange to assign this much agency to the president for something he didn't draft. Do you really think this would've been allowed to continue if a democrat had won? The whole country wanted them gone. It had been a decade in the works.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=qzNFRn5TTtc
All I'm saying is I don't get caught up in the whole Reagan was an almighty deity shit most Republicans tend to do. I'm not accusing you of being caught up in that but you understand what I'm talking about right? How some conservatives will claim that he did no wrong and acted like the guy shit gold bricks or something.
Just like Trump he made mistakes and we need to stop putting him on a pedestal like he was the greatest of all time.
 
this is not true. reagan pushed for and signed the OBRA of 1981, which repealed basically all of carter's reforms for the mental health system, and pushed it all onto states to handle, which was obviously too expensive, and led to the failure of the american institutional psychiatric system as a whole. if you have ever tried to find a place for a mentally ill loved one in a care facility, even for a short term, it is both ridiculously hard to get a bed, and obscenely expensive even with private insurance.
Already covered this with my response to LipGlossary

Moves towards community outreach were a decade in the works and were demanded all over the country. The president did not write his own reconciliation bill. How much of Trump's reconciliation bill do you think is what Trump wanted?
 
Reagan closed the mental asylums when he was governor of California with the Lanterman-Petris-Short Act

And even in the context of California, none of these homeless crazies are born here, they weren't the result of that legislation, and it's all democrat cope to blame their own mismanagement on someone else. We barely had any homeless people at all in the 2000s. You had to go to Skid Row or Venice. Now they're just everywhere, in every city. I'm sorry but I do not believe the homeless population reproduced and grew like Africans. And you can ask them yourselves, they're always from out of state. At some point they get a greyhound and come out here. It's the way of the homeless.

I personally don't like Reagan but the institutional cope is a state-wide lie that somehow went national. Federal moves to community outreach were owed to Willowbrook State School causing a massive nationwide controversy after the horrible conditions were exposed by Geraldo Rivera. They would've happened with or without Reagan, I suspect.

If anything you should hate him for amnesty and taking your firearms on the back of a fraudulent vote.
something something Correlation / Causation

They absolutely DID reproduce and grow like Africans because niggers found Crack in the 80's after Reagan took office. You can claim that was CIA shit or whatever but it doesn't matter. Starting in the 80's, we had a massive drug problem appear, pushing addicts to the streets and homeless. We didn't care much because it was niggers and let them rot in Detroit or whatever.

Then the 90's saw the epic rise of Heroin, which started to have an effect on the White population. But it was expensive. Still plenty of folks discovered Opiates and got interested enough that when The Sacklers hit town in the late 90's with OxyContin, all of America was ready for a cheap opiate.

You saw a massive fucking explosion of homelessness in the early 2000's. And again in the late 2010's with Fent.

you can see this reflected in even a single city's homeless shelter population.

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The homeless problem you're talking about isn't from insane asylums closing, although that had an impact because now we no longer had a place to dump these people. But I promise you, were those institutions sill around today, they would be packed full to the brim with people who've rotted their brains out on Fent and Tranq and there STILL would be fucks under every underpass in town holding signs and doing the nod outside the 7-11. The majority of the scum you see sleeping on sidewalks are addicts. Maybe 1 in 10 is legit mentally twisted and incapable of being in society by virtue of genetics.
 
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The job of the President of the United States of America is to take the question not ban it from being asked.
Bullshit. The job of the President of the United States of America in such a situation is to tell the activist cosplaying as a "journalist" that that's the most retarded question he's heard since Tuesday, call him a faggot, chide his mother for not having aborted him, and then move on.
 
Wasn't it Kennedy who started the process of shutting down the asylums with the Community Mental Health Act of 1963?

Probably jealous because his sister got lobotomized and he didn't. That's why his head did that thing later, I think. Lobotomy envy.
 
Mildly amusing TDS anecdote. My mother has terminal lefty retardation, and she has spent all of today seething that her workplace uses Trumpf equipment. For those too retarded to click the link, this company literally just manufactures lasers + laser equipment.

Please don't tell me to be sympathetic to my mother, she's literally a raging Cluster B headcase that I try not to interact with.
 
All I'm saying is I don't get caught up in the whole Reagan was an almighty deity shit most Republicans tend to do. I'm not accusing you of being caught up in that but you understand what I'm talking about right? How some conservatives will claim that he did no wrong and acted like the guy shit gold bricks or something.
Just like Trump he made mistakes and we need to stop putting him on a pedestal like he was the greatest of all time.
I can't speak for neocons from 20 years ago, but disliking Reagan because he "closed the asylums" when he was a brand new president signing a reconciliation bill, I just find problematic because it results in the right repeating democrat talking points, on something that was not a partisan issue. And it's only something democrats have convinced themselves of, because it's been an effective talking point in California. It's intuitive but I don't think it necessarily makes sense when you really look at it. Does the president control Joint Congress?

If you want to have an issue with Reagan, he objectively stole your firearms with a fraudulent vote, and granted amnesty to illegals that no one wanted. Reagan never did a single thing that the liberals didn't also want, so this idea that he was some just setback to left-wing "progress", I just have to take it with a grain of salt.
 
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