🦊 Furry Furry Fandom and Drama General

[dontwantagoudatime24]

i was watching the oscars and when Kpop demon hunters won best animated feature i heard screams of a thousand furfags as zootopia 2 lost.

 

[Rukario]

i was watching the oscars and when Kpop demon hunters won best animated feature i heard screams of a thousand furfags as zootopia 2 lost.

Back when Zootopia 1 came out the Furries wouldn't shut up about it, and people attending the film in fursuits made the news. This time round it seems it was acknowledged far less enthusiastically. Was the film really a letdown compared to the first, or are the furries too focused on other media franchises instead?

 

[Drunken Fox]

Back when Zootopia 1 came out the Furries wouldn't shut up about it, and people attending the film in fursuits made the news. This time round it seems it was acknowledged far less enthusiastically. Was the film really a letdown compared to the first, or are the furries too focused on other media franchises instead?

I don't think it was as much of a sensation as the first one, but based on how much Pawbert love I've seen, it seems have made some of an impact. Everyone I know who saw it seemed to like it. I think the Zootopia porn just never stopped since the first movie. So, the second one just didn't seem as impactful when it hit.

 

[Nick Wilde]

Back when Zootopia 1 came out the Furries wouldn't shut up about it, and people attending the film in fursuits made the news. This time round it seems it was acknowledged far less enthusiastically. Was the film really a letdown compared to the first, or are the furries too focused on other media franchises instead?

I mean the first one was like ten years ago. I don't and will never participate in "the fandom" at anything but arm's length, but even I can tell shit has changed in that time.

Zootopia 1 was notable enough, at that time, to even be a mainstream media property that was unquestionably furry, so it was a novelty. After years of nothing but negative portrayals and ultra-niche internet content, it was something to celebrate. Nowadays the notoriety of furries seems to have fallen off quite a bit. Mainstream internet culture has moved on from the "yiff in hell" days. So Zootopia 2 wasn't as much of a surprise to see.

I've met zoomers who are just like, openly furry, and they don't have any idea how massively stigmatized it was just a few years ago. And I kinda hate them for it. I wonder if this is how old school fags from the 60s and 70s feel if they meet young queers who grew up in today's environment of full 24/7 gay propaganda.

 

[Soda Can]

Having just watched Zootopia 2 the other night, I can say it's not as good as the first one. It leans too heavily on gags based on the first film, jumps around like a Saturday morning cartoon on crack and every character is an annoying parody of the ones seen last time.

 

[Noebel]

Having just watched Zootopia 2 the other night, I can say it's not as good as the first one. It leans too heavily on gags based on the first film, jumps around like a Saturday morning cartoon on crack and every character is an annoying parody of the ones seen last time.

At least it's not far enough in the future to make the abortion comic not canon.

 

[long waters]

Bojack isn't appealing.

In conclusion:
Fuck Bo-ssman jack horseman.

Edit 1 : Fuck, hit send too soon.
Wanted to say, I agree with this, but this is kind of what I think made the show "good". Bojack isn't a hero, he's the antagonist of his own story. He's a completely detestable fuck up and I think you're supposed to watch it and take it as a "don't ever do this" anti-example.
Edit 2: I think it's the kind of depressing show you watch when you're feeling like a depressed narcissistic piece of shit to serve as an anti-example, as something not to do. The point being, you see how utterly detestable this character is and how many times he fucks up his and other people's lives, and then reflect on your own fuck ups and how you can do better. But it's not something you watch to "enjoy".

 

[Noebel]

Yo, guys. Bojack or that PunPun comic? I've managed to read half of it and got tired of how miserable it became.

 

[dontwantagoudatime24]

Speaking of zootopia has anyone seen GOAT.

Spoiler: movie spoiler

Saw it in 3D and I thought the movie was mi AF. That shooting stars meme made me fucking cringe and the Hyena dyke would have her own kiwi farms thread

I mean the first one was like ten years ago. I don't and will never participate in "the fandom" at anything but arm's length, but even I can tell shit has changed in that time.

Zootopia 1 was notable enough, at that time, to even be a mainstream media property that was unquestionably furry, so it was a novelty. After years of nothing but negative portrayals and ultra-niche internet content, it was something to celebrate. Nowadays the notoriety of furries seems to have fallen off quite a bit. Mainstream internet culture has moved on from the "yiff in hell" days. So Zootopia 2 wasn't as much of a surprise to see.

I've met zoomers who are just like, openly furry, and they don't have any idea how massively stigmatized it was just a few years ago. And I kinda hate them for it. I wonder if this is how old school fags from the 60s and 70s feel if they meet young queers who grew up in today's environment of full 24/7 gay propaganda.

I remember back in 2016 i was constantly shitting on furniggas in general. Now i don't care about the hobby and i don't mind those who intrested in anthro animals as a hobby but i still shit on the fandom for obvious reasons. Hey at least i did not end up like that zootopia/furry hater on reddit that i recently saw.


Furcunts getting upset over the newest generation of furfags about why they are ruining their feti- I mean fandom.

either constantly complain or forcing others to be positive all the time classic furniggas.

 

[Otis Boi]

Furcunts getting upset over the newest generation of furfags about why they are ruining their feti- I mean fandom.

either constantly complain or forcing others to be positive all the time classic furniggas.

The only 3 constants in life are Death,Taxes, and furries complaining about other furries.

 

[Van Argiano]

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Furcunts getting upset over the newest generation of furfags about why they are ruining their feti- I mean fandom.

either constantly complain or forcing others to be positive all the time classic furniggas.

To be fair it was a lot more tolerable before all the pronouns and trannies.

 

[TroonsDid911]

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Furcunts getting upset over the newest generation of furfags about why they are ruining their feti- I mean fandom.

either constantly complain or forcing others to be positive all the time classic furniggas.

To be fair every single generation complains about the one that comes after them. We even have quotes from Homer supposedly:

"Our sires' age was worse than our grandsires'. We their sons are more worthless than they: so in our turn we shall give the world a progeny yet more corrupt."

Sometimes its true, sometimes its old men yelling at clouds. This time it is true because our society is falling apart and becoming a dystopian shithole. The difference between generations in Homer's days VS the modern era is not comparable at all.

That being said, Millenials and most certainly Furry Millenials are in no position to cast stones. They are the reason the next generation is so fucked up. I find lots of what Gen Z does to be retarded but then I remember they were raised by retarded parents so I have some sympathy. Also they hate Jews so thats a big improvememt in my books.

 

[John.Doe]

He reunited with his sweetheart he had a crush on, then tried to Epstein her daughter.

Small correction here, but after being rejected by that sweetheart the 17 year old daughter executed on her plan to pressure him into sex. Rewatch the episode, she confesses to planning things out well in advance and remaining sober all night while Bojack got hammered. Despite being sloppy drunk he rejects her advances multiple times, until she follows him to his boat demanding sex, at which point just as he surrenders and starts to undress the mom (his former sweetheart) catches them.

Later they tried to retcon the situation because men bad.

Also, I liked Bojack Horseman to a point, but the episodes got so depressing and dour that it's like "why the fuck am I watching this sad horse guy eulogize his abusive mother for 30 fucking minutes with no cuts?" and then you watch Smiling Friends instead.

Yeah, the creators went off the deep end with TDS and general anti-male hatred, there was a point where Bojack was getting better in the sense of coming to terms with being an asshole and beginning to make positive life changes. Then they railroaded him into all kinds of bullshit to drag him back down.

You don't hear as much about Blacksad (despite it being, well, actually pretty good) either even though the art style is a bit more stylized, and very very few of its characters have tails either.

Blacksad is a bit harder to access and except for the first story very poorly written. The art style is also very lazy and very heteronormative, so the majority of furries see little appeal. Even the straight furries usually like their fuckable furry women to be a bit more anthropomorphic. Or at least match up in style.


Look at this panel. If there is a spectrum between human and animal with furries somewhere in the middle then its clear this guy makes little effort to move along it. He draws a hot chick and adds makeup and ears to barely nudge her into catgirl territory, and meanwhile the guys get an animal head with human eyes, barely inching them out of animal territory. I just hate how inconsistent and obviously phoned in the art became over time. Its just worse and worse with each issue.

The issue with the writing, beside glazing communists, is that for Woke Good Boy Points he tries to shoehorn in a lot of human racial elements in the most illogical and retarded way possible despite it being completely unnecessary. The noir detective setting does not need a racial component, it does not need one at all and his insistence on trying to shoehorn it in makes him come off as a fucking retard own-goaling himself. There is zero need for race components in a classic mystery or detective story, so including them is a choice that comes with risk (the risk being your story is retarded). Even if you wanted to include a race component, at least have it be plausibly logical, like a division between like the lizards and mammals, or canines vs felines or draw the lines by continent - anything that doesn't fall apart immediately.

You know, like having the nigger gang of black supremacists be a Spanish Horse, a German Dog, and a Greek Bull. This is an actual plot point, in Arctic Nation the whole throughline is about blacks versus Whites and there is no way to predict who will be what.
Or having anime catgirl Hitler, that was real fucking weird. I almost forgot about that, its so bizarre and completely unnecessary.

Was the film really a letdown compared to the first, or are the furries too focused on other media franchises instead?

Yes, the second film recycled too many plot points like friction in the ZPD which should make no sense, as well as pretty explicit anti-White racism.

I don't think it was as much of a sensation as the first one, but based on how much Pawbert love I've seen, it seems have made some of an impact.

Pawbert's fanbase fell off hard when the director let slip that the lynx boy is actually a 30+ year old loser.

Speaking of zootopia has anyone seen GOAT.

I don't think we have anybody in this thread that would have seen the basketball sneaker movie, niggers can't use the internet.

 

[dontwantagoudatime24]

To any furries is it just me or do you guys also find it creepy how frequently furries are open to sexual content. Like every where i lurk or go to anything furry related there is some sort of NSFW content. Even overwatch,marvel rivals or hellaverse content doe not feature that much porn or most of it is over the top satire.

Spoiler: Softcore porn

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but this and other furry content rubs me the wrong way. It feels so centered and feels like an answer/request for freaky ass niggas online.

The comment section also does not help

Spoiler: Thirst shit"[ATTACH size="84x250

8716160[/ATTACH] Also the comments don't feel ironic as they posted sexual shit]

Even made art of it

Spoiler: Fetish art

It just creeps me out even most fandoms are not this aggressive with sexual content or keep it at adult sides and the fact kids are prevalent in the furry fandom is just horryfing

 

[Barry Williams]

Early furry fandom art had inklings of "adult" aspects by way of things like the Omaha the Cat Dancer comic, which was definitely aimed at mature readers, but also a lot of the contemporary art of the time mimicked what the more mainstream comics were doing as far as what today we'd call "fan service" went. Things like the Tank Vixens comic series, or Havoc Inc and Eureka, which had military or action themes but also did some saucy (but still clean) artwork of their lead female characters for readers. Though given that furry was already a niche in and of itself, the adult side of things very easily overpowered the more PG side of things. Now, everything is just openly and brazenly sexual and it's actually extremely difficult to find an artist or writer who is solely PG-13 or lower.

The problem is most people were unwilling to make a collective effort toward reeling things in. There was one group of furs that tried, The Burned Furs, but they were mocked relentlessly because admittedly they were kind of self-righteous and religious/pious and this was smack in the middle of the upswing toward openly ridiculing religion and its place in American culture. Needless to say The Burned Furs were unsuccessful in changing minds, yet every year that has passed since then has only served to vindicate the things they warned everyone about.

 

[Myrtle the Turtle]

Spotted on X

 

[Coolio55]

Early furry fandom art had inklings of "adult" aspects by way of things like the Omaha the Cat Dancer comic, which was definitely aimed at mature readers, but also a lot of the contemporary art of the time mimicked what the more mainstream comics were doing as far as what today we'd call "fan service" went. Things like the Tank Vixens comic series, or Havoc Inc and Eureka, which had military or action themes but also did some saucy (but still clean) artwork of their lead female characters for readers. Though given that furry was already a niche in and of itself, the adult side of things very easily overpowered the more PG side of things. Now, everything is just openly and brazenly sexual and it's actually extremely difficult to find an artist or writer who is solely PG-13 or lower.

The problem is most people were unwilling to make a collective effort toward reeling things in. There was one group of furs that tried, The Burned Furs, but they were mocked relentlessly because admittedly they were kind of self-righteous and religious/pious and this was smack in the middle of the upswing toward openly ridiculing religion and its place in American culture. Needless to say The Burned Furs were unsuccessful in changing minds, yet every year that has passed since then has only served to vindicate the things they warned everyone about.

I still lol at Tank Vixens because I could immediately tell what would happen to the creator despite it being a comic from the 90's.

 

[LopsidedLegend]

Back when Zootopia 1 came out the Furries wouldn't shut up about it, and people attending the film in fursuits made the news. This time round it seems it was acknowledged far less enthusiastically. Was the film really a letdown compared to the first, or are the furries too focused on other media franchises instead?

Probably also the fact a lot of the fandom got divided into acab since 2020. Also helps that k-pop demon slayer is just a better movie. Zootopia 2 is good but it lacks a lot of the scriptwriting charm of the original where every plot thread referenced a previous plot thread so often the script creates a symphony of references to itself before the movie is over. Also importantly piracy and Disney Plus mean less asses in theaters. Also most importantly, economy bad mkay.

 

[Coolio55]

Probably also the fact a lot of the fandom got divided into acab since 2020. Also helps that k-pop demon slayer is just a better movie. Zootopia 2 is good but it lacks a lot of the scriptwriting charm of the original where every plot thread referenced a previous plot thread so often the script creates a symphony of references to itself before the movie is over. Also importantly piracy and Disney Plus mean less asses in theaters. Also most importantly, economy bad mkay.

Also there's The Bad Guys which is pretty much giving everyone what they actually want.

 

[Jonathan Boudalycaon]

Early furry fandom art had inklings of "adult" aspects by way of things like the Omaha the Cat Dancer comic, which was definitely aimed at mature readers, but also a lot of the contemporary art of the time mimicked what the more mainstream comics were doing as far as what today we'd call "fan service" went. Things like the Tank Vixens comic series, or Havoc Inc and Eureka, which had military or action themes but also did some saucy (but still clean) artwork of their lead female characters for readers. Though given that furry was already a niche in and of itself, the adult side of things very easily overpowered the more PG side of things. Now, everything is just openly and brazenly sexual and it's actually extremely difficult to find an artist or writer who is solely PG-13 or lower.

The problem is most people were unwilling to make a collective effort toward reeling things in. There was one group of furs that tried, The Burned Furs, but they were mocked relentlessly because admittedly they were kind of self-righteous and religious/pious and this was smack in the middle of the upswing toward openly ridiculing religion and its place in American culture. Needless to say The Burned Furs were unsuccessful in changing minds, yet every year that has passed since then has only served to vindicate the things they warned everyone about.

https://yerf.metafur.org/