How do you design a character that mostly attracts women?

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I'm slowly starting to care less about pandering but I'm curious what causes a male or female character to feel more appealing to women but not for a lot of men. Like for example, how do you make a female character attractive/sexy to women who like women?
 
Maybe something that focuses on fashion? Like, fashion that is popular and trendy with actual women in the demographics range of your viewers. I'm not super into fashion myself, but I dig how shoujo manga artists from the 80s and 90s put effort into the characters looking cute or relatable. Or maybe I've been playing a lot of Inifinity Nikki.
 
Personally, as a straight woman, I find myself most drawn to female characters who are very beautiful but not overly-sexualized. My personal favorite female character designs are tall, lithe, feminine, GORGEOUS long and thick hair, mature. The face, especially, is unmistakably adult. Long with a high nose bridge. Beautiful instead of cute. I think Leiji Matsumoto draws some of the most enchanting women.

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Here are some examples of other female character designs I like (although many are not from sources that are appealing to women, and may be very sexualized within their media, I still think their character designs alone are very appealing).
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Now, making male characters that are attractive to women, that's a very interesting subject indeed. What men and women find attractive in men are very different.
In terms of faces, men typically are attracted to very masculine, rough, square, chiseled types of faces.
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This is NOT a popular face among women, however. I've found that the best way to attract female audiences is to go down two separate paths:

1.) Make him a bishounen/pretty boy/ikemen. Make him prettier, cuter, softer. Look at all of the anime guys women are into. Give his face some vulnerable charm, some feminine balance and youth. Another important component to the pretty boy formula: GOOD HAIR. Women love a nice, healthy head of hair.
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2.) Obscure his face. Make him a masked character or make him inhuman (deformed or disfigured, even). You can typically make a character who is otherwise very big, masculine, scary, but if he is in some way "faceless", he can attract female fans. Think of Ghost from CoD. Think of Venom. Hell, think of all the weird TSM blorbos with fangirls like Sans, Spamton, or Bill Cipher.
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Actually Beauty and the Beast is a good thing to go over. Usually people focus on the archetypes of Beauty and Beast, but instead think about Gaston and Beast as archetypes for the male ideal from a man's perspective and a woman's perspective. Men like Gaston and women like Beast.
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Both 1 and 2 also help make the character visually interesting and distinctive rather than falling into "nondescript, generic male protagonist" territory.
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In terms of the body, women either like guys who are quite slim, as you see with anime characters, or they like guys with leaner muscle. Even women into very muscular characters tend to like them configured in a different way than men. From what I've seen, men tend to be the most drawn to male characters with really big upper bodies, and pay less attention to the rest. They look very wide. The Johnny Bravo type if you will. Women want to see balance and definition in the legs as well. Tall, with broad shoulders tapering to a little waist and then nice thighs and butt bring everything into harmony. If you look at fanart drawn by guys and compare it to fanart drawn by women, you can see men tend to be really into the amount of muscle (more is more) and they like a lot of vascularity, hard shadows, sharp edges. Women are more into overall form, shape, flow, and don't like as much vascularity or striation. Compare the difference between Goku and Gojo in terms of male and female fanfare.
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And, of course, if you frame your male characters in ways that are obviously meant to be fan service for women, this is going to put off men. So that's kind of a sure-fire way attract mostly women.
 
Ostatnio edytowane:
"Bad boy" but non-threatening (so usually more affeminate than what a male would consider a power fantasy). Same principle they use to pick boyband members

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Personally, as a straight woman, I find myself most drawn to female characters who are very beautiful but not overly-sexualized. My personal favorite female character designs are tall, lithe, feminine, GORGEOUS long and thick hair, mature. The face, especially, is unmistakably adult.
Yeah this, as a lesbian it's so gross how female characters designed to be attractive to moids are always either baby faced pedobait or have insane hentai proportions.

Women in general enjoy more realistic and average looking features while males tend to exaggerate to an extreme. There's this old meme that illustrates this really well:

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Women have greater variety in preferences than men, but the one that has seemingly universal appeal:
Tall, masculine face, strong jaw, muscular (but not freakishly so like a roider)
Basically Superman.
 
Here are some examples of other female character designs I like (although many are not from sources that are appealing to women, and may be very sexualized within their media, I still think their character designs alone are very appealing).
This is mostly the gist of it.

Male and female preferences differ a lot.

Tl,dr, men want youthful pretty and slim women for mates and strong, muscled men for comrades.

Women want wise but unthreatening men, and as for females mostly general non competitive self inserts.

Which is generally not easily understood for the male brain, who would think women would want a supermodel like character.

You need to think if you want your female character to appeal to heterosexual women in general, or if you want to make a dyke waifu.

For male characters, the bishi bi boys are absolutely the winners. Especially if they are vampires. Twilight made bank, no matter the damage it did to male gothic horror fans.

Women usually peak earlier than men. Men won't ever find old women attractive normally (excluding CWC), just as normal women aren't into zitz filled 19 year olds flipping burgers and being greasy, no matter how supremely gentlemen they are.

Blonde hair and make it long. I'm into that, or just make the character design resemble Lady Oscar from that 70s anime

That is a very classical, almost basic male archetype that appeals to 75% of men too. Can't go wrong with the body pillow sales for a blonde girl.

If you want a homo girl, I would say go bishi boy and turn it into a girl.

Concentrate more on her intriguing, tragic and mystic backstory and outfits than her body, though make her tall if you can.
Make her smooth, streetwise, mystically distant yet sometimes vulnerable.
The outfit should be unisex yet generally fancy, as an anime prince would have it. Women love accesories.

Don't make her overly submissive or diminutive.
Do not give her huge tits and a girly/revealing outfit, that is our beloved moid feed.

Google Cecily "Cissy" Meldrum for a non anime example.

Men want 3 things: youthtful, hot, nice. Avoid these if you want to avoid dang dirty males. Just as women find these female characters unappealing, men in general do hold the same revulsion for the bishi males.

Astarion (vampire of the BG3 bi-bearsexual fame) was generally disliked by male players just as tiddy waifus make feminists seethe. I just appreciated his sneak attack damage but that is just me bring a hyper autist gamer who can't resist a nice damage number.
 
Ostatnio edytowane:
The voice acting is a big part of it. Either make them silent and mysterious, or give them a nice rich gruff refined voice. Like all the Bioware husbandos.
Do both. Make him or her silent and mysterious who only opens up to the protagonist herself in a touching moment of broody emotion in a melodic voice.
 
give her enormous boobs, all chicks wish they had enormous boobs and just ran around in lingerie all the time

Unironically, though, look at women's fashion ads that are still trying to actually sell to women rather than win woke points (so not Target). Dillards.com shows what women fantasize about looking like, and it basically correlates with the cartoon women @Arbiter likes:

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By what I see in local fantasy literature,
- Has long bright red hair
- Green eyes like a cat
- Slender build
- Wears dresses of colour complimenting her hair and eyes regardless of if she's poor af or not
- Has a pet fox
- Is even named something like Foxanna or Foxella
- Is an exceptional fencer, archer and horseback rider, if rich.
-Overall looks like Shallan Davar from Stormlight archives (who is written by a man)
-Personality described as ''fiery''
Not that long ago I picked up an anthology of fantasy/sci-fi short stories written by women, and when there appeared such main character for, like, 4th time out of 12, I was close to throw the book out of window.
Question is, if the women readers in general like to read about such characters too.
 
Most casual mobile games are designed with normie women (usually mums and grandmas) in mind. If they feature characters, it's typically a beautiful but relatable woman. She's not ugly but she isn't exceedingly glamorous either, she's usually run off her feet with whatever tasks need handling (just like the player has five minutes to play the game in between chores, work and child wrangling) and looks like the "girl next door". It's a fantasy but an attainable one, even if the game's set in a fantasy world it's usually a goal that the player could imagine herself achieving if she were there. That's not to say that women aren't ambitious, but generally at a population level we tend to be less idealistic than men.
Taylor Swift and The Spice Girls are good examples of things with a huge female fan base, because they are/were relatable in their music and performances. They've since become megastars, but the fans felt like they grew up with them when they were singing about the same sort of angst they had themselves, or that they embodied archetypes they could see among their own friends groups. Every little girl in the '90s would be drafted into playing as one of the Spice Girls and it was decided pretty quickly among the group who was who, because they saw something of themselves and each other in the band.
That's not to say it has to always be "waow she is literally me!" but it does help to have some character traits that they can relate to, or be made to relate to with some context for why the character is the way they are.
 
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