Iran Crisis ∩ Trump Politics Mass Debates Thread

very interesting none of the hawks are talking about Bahrain, complete failure for western forces there. exhausted interceptors on the first fucking day after Israel's initial strike. Iran is flying slow drones there, and they aren't getting shot down. there was even an apartment bombed that is speculated to have been frequented by US officers.
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Bahrain is majority shia, and they are revolting against the US-backed regime there. not only are the Iranians not overthrowing their regime, this war is actually resulting in US-backed regimes being overthrown.
This war has been surprising I know that the US risks Bahrain turning into an adversary but I wonder if the map reshuffle within a few weeks. I could see the UAE, Qatar, the house of saud probably turn more anti iran if they keep launching drone attacks at them. So far it seems like both sides stockpiles have drawn down as there arent as many drones or missiles being launched as compared to 5 days ago.
 
I could see the UAE, Qatar, the house of saud probably turn more anti iran if they keep launching drone attacks at them.
our allies are actually pretty upset at us for withdrawing air defense to Israel. i could see them forgiving Iran for striking their country in the future, considering they're neighbors. i don't see them forgiving us, considering we did nothing to help defend them despite our promises to. they were told these US bases on their soil meant protection.
So far it seems like both sides stockpiles have drawn down as there arent as many drones or missiles being launched as compared to 5 days ago.
Iran still has entire regions of missile launchers that haven't even been fired up yet. they've been sending less missiles than the past week because they're running out of valuable targets to hit.
 
You retards need to watch this guy to understand what's going on and why this war was started.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_gH4PvIni5E

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8XdL-7tAqnU

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=jIS2eB-rGv0

The TL;DW is that the pro Israel evangelicals that have embedded themselves in the American government started this war to invoke Armageddon and the second coming of Jesus. Israel started this war because it also aligns with their holy prophecy of persecution. Iran and other Muslims want this war because it fulfills their prophecy of global war.
Everybody's interests have aligned to make this shit happen. It won't end at bombings, there will be a USA ground invasion, and it will end with the fall of the American empire.
I would call it involuntary downsizing, but yeah, America as the global hegemon is just plain over. No one can trust a government that attacks during negotiations, especially when everyone knows it plays favorites. At this point, it'd be smarter to arrest Witkoff and Kushner whenever they visit other countries as hostages instead of pretending they're diplomats.
 
Iranian libtards didn't really think this through did they ?
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o tl;dr: you are seeing "panic buying" right now.
I want to clarify one thing, I don't care about the price of oil or the economics that is currently going on, IMO compared to the price of letting Iran exist this is nothing.

The world can buy all the oil they want but they can't move it and have it reach them, all the tankers withing the persian gulf are full and can't leave, and the empty tankers can't enter to deplete the refineries' tanks.
The refineries themselves are in trouble and will be forced to pause production because their tanks aren't depleting fast enough.

Another thing the already filled tankers are forming as clusters within the persian gulf and they better that Iran doesn't make an oopsie and accidently drops a drone on even one of them.
Or else we will see something like this but much bigger and hotter.
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Moving on from tankers the Iranian parliament disagrees with the president to stop bombing their neighbors.
Sorry Mr. Racewar 1488, gonna' snipe here. From Visegrad 24:
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This doesn't sound like the 'famous Iranian hospitality to me', more like "Trust me bro we're being real nice right now -- no we're not running out of munitions and using this as a cope, no, totally not. We're being good people here! We don't WANT to bomb you; we still can, we totally can! See? We just hit the UAE with a drone again! Just trust us and leave us alone, we're still a threat k thnx". It's pure cope, but I can't wait to hear the third-worldist in a discord server I occupied (guy that left America for Canada, hates Israel, hates America, will back any country that fights America) thinks of this. Nothing good, for sure.

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Moving on from tankers the Iranian parliament disagrees with the president to stop bombing their neighbors.
I think half the reason America hasn't bothered to kill this guy yet is to prove to the world how useless he is.
If we presuppose that the public is so inflamed against the regime that they are willing topple it themselves once the regime is weak enough, then it maybe makes sense. This seems more likely with Iran vs, say, Iraq of course, but I’m just not very confident it’ll go down that.
The public was so willing to try that it took killing 40K of them to just settle them down for a few weeks, and they were already beginning to pop off again in random incidents before the war started. Trump and the Shah have warned them repeatedly not to take to the streets until the all-clear is given. If it's given, and the populace is either too pussy to do anything or somehow lose (which would be near-impossible with IAF/USAF giving them air cover), then we'll likely just consider the mission done and go home.
 
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pro Israel evangelicals that have embedded themselves in the American government started this war to invoke Armageddon and the second coming of Jesus. Israel started this war because it also aligns with their holy prophecy of persecution. Iran and other Muslims want this war because it fulfills their prophecy of global war.
Everybody's interests have aligned to make this shit happen.
Nice to hear that the Abrahamic religions agree on something other than their propensity to molest children. Now it would be great if all the believers return to the desert where it all began to fight it out among themselves without the rest of the world.
 
I hope this war is wrapped up nicely before america host the FIFA world cup and they let hundreds of thousands of unvetted fans from around the world stroll in, right on the 250th anniversary of the founding of the country, where stadiums full of tens of thousands of people will be crammed in together.

To make matters worse, america has never had a 'Hillsborough disaster' so any panic in those crowds will lead to very high casualties.
 
This is gonna make some of the Christians sperg but there’s no evidence of Judaism even existing until the Babylonian period. It’s almost certainly a Zoroastrian cult.
The only major things that got cut out was the obsession with fire and the sky but even then, the burning bush and God being described as rather bright and fiery matches up with Zoroastrian beliefs. It's more realistic to say that Judaism is Zoroastrianism but the original God is replaced with a Canaanite God of war (Yahweh) which then resulted in variations of polytheistic Judaism to form as the influence of the Canaanites grew over time thus angering those loyal to Yahweh and sparking the creation of the Old Testament so they could bitch about the polytheistic people and blame them for every time they got conquered.
 
I hope this war is wrapped up nicely before america host the FIFA world cup and they let hundreds of thousands of unvetted fans from around the world stroll in, right on the 250th anniversary of the founding of the country, where stadiums full of tens of thousands of people will be crammed in together.

To make matters worse, america has never had a 'Hillsborough disaster' so any panic in those crowds will lead to very high casualties.
My concern is also the miami f1 race. Not like trump has family there that surely won’t be big targets
 
Police in Oslo, Norway have now confirmed that the U.S. Embassy was targeted earlier tonight by an explosive device, with the device detonating around 1:00a.m. outside the consular entrance to the Embassy, resulting in minor injures and damage, according to a statement provided to NRK by Oslo Police Chief Michael Delmer. (A/N)
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Iraqi Parliament chanting "Death to America!"
clearly this war is extremely popular, they want it! we're freeing them!
 
Trump:

>UK and Europe should fight alongside america in future wars.
>The soldiers in europe and UK were shit in afghanistan, we don't need them.
>The UK should be helping us, it's terrible that they're not.
>We don't need the UK they're shit anyway.
>Why aren't the UK helping?

I haven't seen this many flip-flops since summer at the beach. Who is doing trump's PR, Helen Keller?
 
The only major things that got cut out was the obsession with fire and the sky but even then, the burning bush and God being described as rather bright and fiery matches up with Zoroastrian beliefs. It's more realistic to say that Judaism is Zoroastrianism but the original God is replaced with a Canaanite God of war (Yahweh) which then resulted in variations of polytheistic Judaism to form as the influence of the Canaanites grew over time thus angering those loyal to Yahweh and sparking the creation of the Old Testament so they could bitch about the polytheistic people and blame them for every time they got conquered.
Superficial similarities don't translate to entire religions being carbon copies of one another.

Also, even if this assertion were true (it's not) it doesn't change anything materially about judaism or by extension christianity.
 
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