Iran Crisis & the 2026 War between Iran and the United States, Gulf States, and Israel - Please focus on news and coverage, not argumentation.

[Suburban Bastard]

A ground war in Iran will destroy America completely so not a bad gambit by the mullahs.

OTOH America clearly isn't preparing for a ground invasion. The numbers are bigger than the lead-up to Afghanistan but way smaller than Iraq 2. All signs point to bombing the fuck out of them and hoping the domestic insurgency handles the infantry role.

The same people who insisted that Ukraine wouldn’t be invaded, then insisted it would be rolled over in three days, who also told you ISIS was going to take over after Assad got Zerg rushed, who claimed that Venezuela was going to turn into Vietnam 2 and kill tens of thousands of Americans, are the same ones telling you this will turn into Afghanistan 2.0

 

[Exegesis]

A ground war in Iran will destroy America completely so not a bad gambit by the mullahs.

OTOH America clearly isn't preparing for a ground invasion. The numbers are bigger than the lead-up to Afghanistan but way smaller than Iraq 2. All signs point to bombing the fuck out of them and hoping the domestic insurgency handles the infantry role.

Except for the fact that the doctrine for the US military now is bombing the fuck out of the enemy and using their complete technological supremacy to have a special operations team do a decapitation strike. The US was more than capable of murdering the entire Iranian government by themselves last year and the only reason why the Israeli's didn't turn the Ayatollah into a red mist is because Trump didn't want them to.
You people act like the US doesn't learn from its past conflicts when every single conflict it has engaged in after World War Two shows clear changes applied from the lesson(s) it learns.

 

[Fanatical Pragmatist]

Is there any solid reason that those freighter planes from china over the last few weeks could not have a hypersonic with a ribbon and a bow on them as a present for Iran to use? Russia passing one to Iran via china isn’t impossible.

Its entirely possible. But what does it change?

The bigger issue would be Chinese missiles, as they are untested (as in they stand a chance of actually working) while Russia's Khinzal and Tsirkon have both been proven largely overhyped in Ukraine and with less-than-ideal accuracy against static targets, much less a maneuvering carrier.
The other issue with Khinzal specifically is that it doesn't have the proven range to hit a US carrier transiting the Suez, and even from the ranges we've seen Tsirkon launched from Russia into Ukraine it'd be a shot. This is of course, assuming Iran has the aircraft/boats to launch either.

Outside the Suez, this assumes Iran has the targeting to actually hit these.
They don't.
Hypothetically, Russia or China could lend their radar satellite reads and maybe maybe maybe Iran gets lucky and gets a real-time on-station asset to provide precise coordinates of a moving carrier minute-by-minute.
But again this assumes the USN does nothing and let's it happen and doesn't just disrupt the kill chain.

Even assuming these things can hit and sink a carrier, this wouldn't be an open-ocean kill like the risk with China, you'd be hitting a carrier with alternate emergency airbases and allied navies/coast guards to assist with the rescue/abort effort.
Unlike most carrier nations where hitting a carrier results in anywhere from a 33-100% reduction in their carrier force, hitting a US carrier results in a ~10% loss, not counting amphibious assault ships.

As far as attacking static bases in the Middle East, Iran already has and has had this ability, and right now of any time Iran is arguably at its weakest because of the hitting their ballistic missile TEL force took last year (don't count the quantity of missiles left, count how many trucks are left capable of launching them). Adding at best two to three dozen "hypersonics" isn't going to change much.

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I actually replied to his comment assuming he meant that unlike Vietnam, Iraq, and Afghanistan THIS TIME this guerilla war/hybrid insurgency would be the one the "destroys" the US.

 

[Exegesis]

The bigger issue would be Chinese missiles, as they are untested (as in they stand a chance of actually working) while Russia's Khinzal and Tsirkon have both been proven largely overhyped in Ukraine and with less-than-ideal accuracy against static targets, much less a maneuvering carrier.

Well that's probably why the Russians launch them in such high volumes no? Pretty sure the last major batch of missiles the Russians dropped down had like over 20 of them.

 

[RetardMaxxer]

The same people who insisted that Ukraine wouldn’t be invaded, then insisted it would be rolled over in three days, who also told you ISIS was going to take over after Assad got Zerg rushed, who claimed that Venezuela was going to turn into Vietnam 2 and kill tens of thousands of Americans, are the same ones telling you this will turn into Afghanistan 2.0

An isis guy is literally in charge or Syria. Well "formerly"

 

[Maori Kiwifruit Growers]

Memeflag is back at it
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The craziest shit is that people take this seriously.

 

[Clyde Cash's Left Teste]

I think part of what Trump's goal with the Iran operation is to further re-establish the US as THE military power

 

[Suburban Bastard]

I’m going to tack on to the Chinese tech shit and remind the Venezuelans had advanced Chinese AA assets explicitly designed, or at least advertised, as being capable of intercepting F-22s and F-35s. Instead they failed to lock on and were destroyed by the very same jet fighters they were supposed to counter. I still rate China as biggest military threat, but it’s pretty hard to argue against the Temu quality meme after that.

 

[Chuckwagon]

Trump just gave a timeframe for when the strikes 'bad things' are going to drop, 10 days. (Archive) I think in 2025 he said the Iranians had 2 weeks to reach a deal only to then launch Midnight Hammer 3 days later, so whoever's betting on the fireworks beginning as early as this weekend, you might just win your bet.

 

[draggs]

I’m going to tack on to the Chinese tech shit and remind the Venezuelans had advanced Chinese AA assets explicitly designed, or at least advertised, as being capable of intercepting F-22s and F-35s. Instead they failed to lock on and were destroyed by the very same jet fighters they were supposed to counter. I still rate China as biggest military threat, but it’s pretty hard to argue against the Temu quality meme after that.

Not only did they fail to lock on, they were completely disabled before being blown up. The Venezuelans said their screens went to 100% this

and there was nothing they could do about it. Both the Russian and Chinese radars they had

That's also what habbened to the radars the Soviets gave to Iraq in 1991 and the Russians had no fucking clue how we did it for several years, it wasn't just conventional jamming

 

[DumbDude43]

I’m going to tack on to the Chinese tech shit and remind the Venezuelans had advanced Chinese AA assets explicitly designed, or at least advertised, as being capable of intercepting F-22s and F-35s. Instead they failed to lock on and were destroyed by the very same jet fighters they were supposed to counter. I still rate China as biggest military threat, but it’s pretty hard to argue against the Temu quality meme after that.

counterpoint: those were being maintained and operated by the incompetent and corrupt chavista army
but whether the iranian revolutionary guard is more competent and better organized than that remains to be seen

 

[Sensitive Young Man]

They’re just asking for it at this point

https://x.com/faytuksnetwork/status/2024533236802548127?s=46

 

[J0hnyApplesneed]

Trump just gave a timeframe for when the strikes 'bad things' are going to drop, 10 days. (Archive) I think in 2025 he said the Iranians had 2 weeks to reach a deal only to then launch Midnight Hammer 3 days later, so whoever's betting on the fireworks beginning as early as this weekend, you might just win your bet.

I wonder if Trump will try "respect" the Olympic Truce, although I imagine he doesn't care. I know no one cares about the retard olympics, especially the winter one, but Russia got banned for violating the truce during the last one in China. I wonder if the IOC would ban America from the LA Games.

 

[draggs]

counterpoint: those were being maintained and operated by the incompetent and corrupt chavista army

Yeah this was the standard Soviet excuse for why their systems never worked as advertised

The reality is that American technology doesn't just jam frequencies very well - it also pumps out all kinds of EM radiation that fucks with the hardware and laughs at Soviet/Russian (and Chinese) attempts at shielding

 

[wtfNeedSignUp]

Hopefully no missiles tonight.

 

[Peasant]

It would actually be funny if Trump's legacy was overthrowing all of America's non-nuclear enemies simply with the grug strategy of "bomb the leader".

Something something "Trump's reckless assassination of Khamenei threatens global stability by undermining the international norm of settling armed conflicts through protracted, bloody ground wars rather than simply killing the belligerent head of state."

 

[babyDunk]

I’m going to tack on to the Chinese tech shit and remind the Venezuelans had advanced Chinese AA assets explicitly designed, or at least advertised, as being capable of intercepting F-22s and F-35s. Instead they failed to lock on and were destroyed by the very same jet fighters they were supposed to counter. I still rate China as biggest military threat, but it’s pretty hard to argue against the Temu quality meme after that.

It is possible that they are giving their "allies" their shittier stuff to trick the amerimutts into prideful thinking

 

[Scout Trooper]

A UAE government flight is arriving back to the UAE after departing from Dulles (sorry no graphics, phonefagging).

https://globe.adsbexchange.com/?icao=896264

Other heavy lift activity into CENTCOM appears to be about average at the moment with the added element of refuelers interspersed among the RCH flights that we've been seeing in Thune power

 

[Dojima's Dragon]

They’re just asking for it at this point
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https://x.com/faytuksnetwork/status/2024533236802548127?s=46

Atp, this is the regime lackeys saying "pls trump sama, rid us of this misery so we can play Warhammer 40k alongside bashar".

Feb 28th can't come soon enough.

 

[Fanatical Pragmatist]

I’m going to tack on to the Chinese tech shit and remind the Venezuelans had advanced Chinese AA assets explicitly designed, or at least advertised, as being capable of intercepting F-22s and F-35s. Instead they failed to lock on and were destroyed by the very same jet fighters they were supposed to counter. I still rate China as biggest military threat, but it’s pretty hard to argue against the Temu quality meme after that.

To be fair to the Chicoms, allegedly what they gave Venezuela was their 2002-2007 era radar tech, not their post-2016 newfangled shiny shit.

Also most the Venezuelan air defenses were still Russian.

After years of milsperg communities and war forums being overrun with "muh invincible Russian missile shield" fags, the Buk-M2s and S-300VM getting clowned on will never not be funny though.