US US Politics General 2: Hope Edition - Discussion of President Trump and other politicians

Wyróżnienie
General Trump Banner.png ​

Should be a wild four years.

Helpful links for those who need them:

Current members of the House of Representatives
https://www.house.gov/representatives

Current members of the Senate
https://www.senate.gov/senators/

Current members of the US Supreme Court
https://www.supremecourt.gov/about/biographies.aspx

Members of the Trump Administration
https://www.whitehouse.gov/administration/
 
Ostatnio edytowane przez moderatora:
Kliknij, aby rozwinąć...
Sexy Senior Citizen powiedział(a):
Sanctuary cities and states admit what we already knew: they are insolvent and their economies are only propped up by underpaid illegal immigrants (sauce). A letter was sent to Trump to complain about it. Treasurers in these states signed: Rhodes Island, Minnesota, Massachusetts, Illinois, New Mexico, Colorado, Oregon, Maryland, Vermont, Washington state, Connecticut, New York, California, Delaware, and Nevada.

The letter has been attached to this post. The full text is below.
February 3, 2026
Donald J. Trump
President of the United States
The White House
1600 Pennsylvania Avenue NW
Washington, DC 20500

Dear Mr. President,

We write to express our outrage and alarm regarding recent federal immigration enforcement activities and their consequences. Each of us has deep concerns about the human toll, the climate of fear, and the violence and death accompanying these operations.

This letter, however, focuses squarely on the economic and fiscal damage these actions could inflict on the states and communities we are entrusted to steward.

The economy fundamentally depends on people producing goods, providing services, and participating in commerce as workers, consumers, and business owners. For an economy to function, people must feel safe to go to work, operate businesses, travel to commercial districts, and engage in everyday economic activity. When fear disrupts these basic conditions, production slows, consumption declines, and the economic system that supports public
revenues begins to break down.

Our responsibilities require us to safeguard state fiscal health, manage public funds prudently, and ensure the economic stability our budgets depend upon. The enforcement operations currently underway across multiple states threaten to produce economic harm that directly undermine these obligations.

Recent enforcement activities in Minnesota sharpen our concerns, as they have caused disruption to daily economic life. Business leaders have expressed concern about the impacts of such actions on their workforces and operations. If economic activity is interrupted and uncertainty spreads through local markets, state and local governments will feel the effects through reduced revenue, instability in employment-related tax receipts, and added strain on public resources.

The cumulative effect would be lost productivity, diminished economic output, and weakened fiscal indicators that directly affect state creditworthiness, borrowing costs, and long-term financial planning.

While we recognize the federal government's authority over immigration enforcement, that authority must be exercised without destabilizing our state and local economies or the economic foundations of our governments. Many of our states already send more tax dollars to Washington than we receive in federal support. We are now expected to absorb the fiscal consequences of enforcement activities. This is not acceptable.

We close by reiterating our outrage and alarm about the consequences of these enforcement actions. We are deeply troubled by the fear, violence, and loss of life they have produced. As fiscal officers, we cannot ignore the economic damage that will flow directly from that fear. When people do not feel safe to work, to operate businesses, or to participate in daily economic life, our economies suffer and the governments serving them are weakened.

We urge your administration to immediately scale back enforcement activities causing this harm and to ensure the economic stability our communities require.
TLDR: SUFFAH, DEMOCRATS, SUFFAH
Kliknij, aby rozwinąć...
Plantation states also stated their economies would suffer without their slaves.
 
babyDunk powiedział(a):
When he told people to stop talking or asking about it? Yes it 100% matters
Kliknij, aby rozwinąć...
I give Trump some benefit of the doubt on this, because he's both a governing populist and a narcissist. He needs the public's attention and outrage to get political capital to force changes through, and he is trying to do a ton of things at once. When he says the files are a distraction, he means it's a public discourse distraction from his Big Beautiful Whatever plans that he wants people to get behind this week.

He does know the files are of public interest, so he originally pushed to release them. However, he's also a hardcore narcissist. He only cares about the files as far as they affect him personally. Once enough was released to show he was in the clear, or at least not implicated, he thought "well that's done" and stopped pushing so he could do other things. He doesn't realize the public wasn't just interested in his involvement, the public also wants to string up Bill Gates, half of Wall Street, and all of Hollywood.

What he really needed was an underling who was as obsessed with the Epstein files as Stephen Miller is with immigration, Hesgeth is with deadly force, Elon was with DOGE, etc. Instead he got Pam Bondi. Maybe there wasn't anyone in the elite ranks anywhere who cared as deeply as the public, but still, Bondi bungled it and Trump didn't care enough to follow up closely.
 
""
Condensed version:
-Baris, Barnes, Mark Mitchell from Rasmussen were all gung-ho on MAGA populism until last April
-it later becomes revealed the Trump admin didn't hire Barnes or Baris as legal or pollsters for anything inside the admin
-tariffs hit, Barnes acts like it's going to ruin the economy (it doesn't)
-Trump starts threatening Iran, they all keep acting like we're going to be in WW3
-US hits Iran, nothing, they can't admit they were wrong
-Mark Mitchell keeps bitching about cratering numbers, actually meets Trump, tells him to crash the housing market which would lead to a deep recession at best; Trump rightfully ignores him
-Mitchell spirals even more
-during all of this, Mark Mitchell's mother is dying from cancer, and he says it was the clot shot that accelerated this
-Faggy Massie really starts going on his Epstein rant, they keep doom spiraling that this matters more than cheap food or rent
-November elections arrive, democrats win comfortably despite polling showing it much closer, especially in NJ. Egg on faces that turns into "akshually it was always there, MAGA is finished"
-Trump nabs Maduro, this is seen as end of the world because nooooo, you can't topple an enemy nation in 90 minutes and then take their oil
-The amount of anti-israel talk ramps up between all of them to a point where they're clearly being paid by UAE or Qatar, where everything is from the lens of "the jews did it." I don't really care for israel but it gets blatantly annoying.
-Trump starts going after Massie for never voting with the GOP when it matters, they are paid off by his campaign to defend him from Trump
-ICE in Minnesota, Barnes starts acting like a lolbert who thinks ICE is just killing people in the streets, "I'm for immigration but not this way" starts to be used to skew polls
-Epstein files released, they start retweeting liberals about how it's all over for Trump and are using the false accusations as gospel
-Trump is pretty much exonerated, but it becomes apparent Steve Bannon was for some reason supporting and trying to set up PR to help Epstein. Bannon has them all on, all the time, yet they remain silent on him
-Now we're to the point where Barnes is acting like poojeet silicon valley democrat Ro Khanna has the best populism, and Baris is off the wagon and doomspiraling 3-4 times a day""

@mandatorylurk The thing about Barnes and Baris is that they were staunchy pro-Israel (at least Barnes was?) back in 2021; recall Robert Barnes going on and on about "They're ISLAMOFASCISTS" when debating Nick Fuentes about the anti-Israel groups surrounding Israel.

Now...they have every right to change their mind, but the inconsistency does raise eyebrows. Trump's stance on Israel actually has been consistent since pre-2015. Nothing about his foreign policy contradicts his prior stances; he was never a pure non-interventionist (even George Washington, John Adams, Thomas Jefferson, etc were not pure non-interventionists)

I also recall that in early 2021 both Barnes and Baris were hyping up Ron DeSantis and implying that Trump doesn't seem like he wants to run again. Sure, they had every right to change their mind (especially when closer scrutiny revealed DeSantis to be a massive sperg backed up by anti-populist donors), but again....the inconsistency raises eyebrows.

sidenote: Rich Baris is a 5'5 Greco-Italian manlet who has multiple kids with a fiery LatinX wife; Baris has definitely has been on an alcoholic bender since ~mid-2025. It's possible he has to take money from the UAE/Qatar so that he doesn't go too nuts while managing his kids who are growing up. He had a drug addiction back in the late 2000s when he came back from Iraq and got into some criminal trouble. That kind of background coincides with emotional instability which might have been amplified in the last year; when you're a father with multiple growing kids in a Cost of Living crisis and a fiery LatinX wife, you can't really afford to deny income streams especially when you're an online political content creator. Aside from spending on the family, you also "have" to spend on yourself on your vices (in this case, alcohol) so that you don't lose your mind. Tbh I wouldn't really fault him for possibly taking money from UAE/Qatar/wherever if he needs to retain his sanity while making sure his kids and LatinX wife don't go homeless.

I'm personally not familiar with the Nick Rekieta drama because aside from watching some of the streams during the Kyle Rittenhouse Trial, the drama seemed like it wasn't worth my time. But it unfortunately wouldn't surprise me if both Baris and Barnes depend on substances (even if it is 'just' alcohol) to not go too off-the-rails. There has to be things going on behind the scenes even if it's not as severe as the Nick Rekieta stuff
 
Can't reply to the post directly despite it being smaller than what I would expect from long-form posts getting auto-disabled from quotes, but:

It actually infuriates me to no end whenever shitlibs from blue states brag ceaselessly about "hurr durr you red state inbred hicks are subsidized by the federal government and our leftist policies." It's always been the inverse and a projection from their smart mouths given their states subsidize their illegal migrants and other lumpenproles at the expense of the working middle class Americans who still have the misfortune to live in those blue hellholes.
 
Harvey Danger powiedział(a):
I give Trump some benefit of the doubt on this, because he's both a governing populist and a narcissist. He needs the public's attention and outrage to get political capital to force changes through, and he is trying to do a ton of things at once. When he says the files are a distraction, he means it's a public discourse distraction from his Big Beautiful Whatever plans that he wants people to get behind this week.

He does know the files are of public interest, so he originally pushed to release them. However, he's also a hardcore narcissist. He only cares about the files as far as they affect him personally. Once enough was released to show he was in the clear, or at least not implicated, he thought "well that's done" and stopped pushing so he could do other things. He doesn't realize the public wasn't just interested in his involvement, the public also wants to string up Bill Gates, half of Wall Street, and all of Hollywood.

What he really needed was an underling who was as obsessed with the Epstein files as Stephen Miller is with immigration, Hesgeth is with deadly force, Elon was with DOGE, etc. Instead he got Pam Bondi. Maybe there wasn't anyone in the elite ranks anywhere who cared as deeply as the public, but still, Bondi bungled it and Trump didn't care enough to follow up closely.
Kliknij, aby rozwinąć...
Not gonna lie, this reads like cope for a senile dude. If he had released all this before a bill had to be force through the house and senate, then maybe the benefit of the doubt would be warranted, but he continually whined all the way until the very last point(when the bill was obviously going to pass) saying “ yeah pass that bill!” . Not a very good look!

If bondi is a retard (she is) and she STILL keeps her job, guess who is responsible for that? Drumf! The buck stops with him chud!
 
IAmNotAlpharius powiedział(a):
The pro independence Puerto Ricans are commies that should be given a helicopter lift to Havana (without parachutes).
Kliknij, aby rozwinąć...
Hey hey. Let's not be too hasty. We shouldn't ignore the communists primary skill of slaughtering a significant portion of the population before collapsing. I say we give them independence, isolate the island and let them cook.
 
babyDunk powiedział(a):
Not gonna lie, this reads like cope for a senile dude. If he had released all this before a bill had to be force through the house and senate, then maybe the benefit of the doubt would be warranted, but he continually whined all the way until the very last point(when the bill was obviously going to pass) saying “ yeah pass that bill!” . Not a very good look!

If bondi is a retard (she is) and she STILL keeps her job, guess who is responsible for that? Drumf! The buck stops with him chud!
Kliknij, aby rozwinąć...
Everyone of your posts here. You can lie and deny it, call me a Chud, a migger but we all know it's true.
 
Nihil Jung powiedział(a):
Imagine using this line of logic next time the dems try raising minimum wage and expecting them to be deferential to it. Fucking snakes, man.
Kliknij, aby rozwinąć...
This is going to betray my coolness and edgy rightness but all wages should be much higher than they are now and would be if the money supply wasn't stolen by slaves and the slave masters. They use illegals to get around the min wage laws as well.
 
Mister Fister powiedział(a):
This is going to betray my coolness and edgy rightness but all wages should be much higher than they are now and would be if the money supply wasn't stolen by slaves and the slave masters. They use illegals to get around the min wage laws as well.
Kliknij, aby rozwinąć...
Wiping out the wage suppression inherent in the illegals/h1-b situation would raise the worth of a dollar exceptionally for actual working class Americans in a way government enforcement of minimum wage (even at more local levels) never could. Dems trying to create a "national minimum wage" is perhaps the most retarded of their older platforms that still shambles around. A living wage in Kentucky vs. NYC are so different to almost not even consider the payment as being in the same currency.
 
Ostatnio edytowane:
Sammich powiedział(a):
Wyświetl załącznik 8546435

Religious liberty *(as long as you aren't a pesky Catholics that speaks her mind)

Religious liberty*(as long as you worship jews and are the type of "christian" that the jews support)
Kliknij, aby rozwinąć...
Taking a meeting that was supposed to be about discussing antisemitism and then trying to make it a theological discussion with a mix of "justify Israeli actions" and muh Islamophobia is dumb. She went out of scope and was told to have that conversation later but refused to.

This was clearly an op:


A member of the commission’s advisory board, Sameerah Munshi, began recording right before Ms. Prejean Boller’s first question, according to board member Jason Bedrick. Ms. Munshi, a Muslim advocate, and Ms. Prejean Boller left together and appeared to be texting amid the hearing.
Kliknij, aby rozwinąć...


1770830260830.png

she also wore a Palestinian flag:

1770830300684.png

Munshi is affilated with the House of Palestine, an NGO that counts Bassem Tamimi as a member. The Tamimi family are a famous group of Palestinian activists/terrorists that have been involved in killing Americans:

1770830510960.png


Boller has a history of attempting to grift off causes but usually showed up too late to get any recognition, now she's trying to milk this for all it's worth.

1770830792412.png
 

Załączniki

  • 1770830278996.png
    1770830278996.png
    1,5 MB · Wyświetlenia: 17
Wyróżnienie
Musisz się zalogować lub zarejestrować, aby odpowiedzieć.
Wstecz
Top Na dole