Iran Crisis & the 2026 War between Iran and the United States, Gulf States, and Israel - Please focus on news and coverage, not argumentation.

[NoStepOnSnake]

How can you fight people with guns

Idk, with guns?

I guess this persian didn't know what a hardware store has. Fuck even some gas and some melted Styrofoam into a police car will brick the engine.

 

[Mr. Racewar1488]

The biggest buildup of Murican military might since 2003 is interesting

It is at a macro level but I'm not going to flood this thread with screenshots of C-17s flying around.

 

[Fanatical Pragmatist]

IMO a lot of the C-5 traffic my guess would be are moving THAAD and Patriot defense systems and setting them up at our other bases in the region around Iran.

Iran is promising to fire at every US base in the region if we do anything to them, and we'll want to be maintaining defense at those bases both for ourselves and to keep good relations with those countries that are as of now still wishy washy on supporting us taking action against Iran. Putting more missile defense systems in the region and preventing any Iranian shots from landing on their soil (and keeping them from hitting any of our assets obviously) will go a long way in keeping them on board with us taking action and operating out of the bases on their soil.

It could also be defenses against low-altitude short-range drones.

Israelis have already used AH-64 Apache helicopters to shoot down Shahed drones, and Ukrainian have already proven APKWS rockets (which can be carried by Apaches) against Shahed "Geran" drones.

Also Fort Hood has a battalion of Centurion C-RAM guns as well, though they are attached to a larger ADA brigade.

 

[mindlessobserver]

What they're picking up from Hood, I'm not sure. Fort Hood has some amount of about anything the Army has to offer -- armor, aviation, artillery, air defense, medical, logistics, etc. They also have the busiest railroad terminal in the Army so it might not even be equipment maintained by a Fort Hood unit but shipped there from other installations.

If I was a betting person, I would say it was a combination of Air Defense and Helicopter assets. The Marines attack helicopters performed way above expectations in the Venezuela operations and the 1st Cavalary Division in Fort Hood has a ton of both ADA and choppers.

But I've not heard of them getting any specific warning orders to deploy. Moving the whole division to theater is not something that can be kept secret. It could be they are just moving the aviation assets and telling the pilots to stfu about it.

 

[Mr. Racewar1488]

OMG, the Iranians have one of our bunker busters! True Promise 4 will be nothing but Iranian missiles tipped with bunker busters!!!!!

The only source is the Iranian FM, lol. I don't feel like going through my posts but I know I made fun of this HealthRanger retard before. And so what if they have one? They weigh 30,000 pounds, the Iranians don't have a rocket powerful enough to carry that heavy of a payload and even if they did they don't have the precision to use it properly. "But China could get it!" Yeah, and? Their bombers, the H-6 which is a copy of the Tu-16, has a max bomb load of 20,000 pounds and would never get close to a target even if it could carry it.


Iran is offering the same concessions has last time. lol, we're gonna cassarollah the Ayatollah.


Operation Praying Mantis 2 incoming.

There's still a lot of C-17s and C-5s moving back and forth to the Gulf. Vance is currently in Armenia so nothing will be happening until he's out of there. As always, I will keep Monitoring The Situation.

 

[Scout Trooper]

If I was a betting person, I would say it was a combination of Air Defense and Helicopter assets. The Marines attack helicopters performed way above expectations in the Venezuela operations and the 1st Cavalary Division in Fort Hood has a ton of both ADA and choppers.

But I've not heard of them getting any specific warning orders to deploy. Moving the whole division to theater is not something that can be kept secret. It could be they are just moving the aviation assets and telling the pilots to stfu about it.

Yeah, that was my feeling too. Without a MEU they are going to need some additional assault, lift, and possibly attack air.

Maybe we'll break out the barges again for Operation Prime Chance 2: Hormuz Boogaloo.

 

[Fanatical Pragmatist]

And so what if they have one? They weigh 30,000 pounds, the Iranians don't have a rocket powerful enough to carry that heavy of a payload and even if they did they don't have the precision to use it properly. "But China could get it!" Yeah, and? Their bombers, the H-6 which is a copy of the Tu-16, has a max bomb load of 20,000 pounds and would never get close to a target even if it could carry it.

They'd basically need an ICBM sized missile to carry it. The closest warhead size to GBU-57 is RS-28 Sarmat, which theoretically one could fit a "close enough" sized bunker buster on a 10,000kg warhead.

The best ICBMs have a CEP of like 100m, which is fine for a nuke but well over 10x what's needed to hit a specific weak point on an underground bunker. It would have dubious ability to hit the appropriate target at the appropriate angle - much less perform a "double tap" like we saw in the strikes on Fordow.

Then issue of speed, the missile would like have to have some form of slow-down device during re-entry to avoid impacting over >Mach 5, or else the 'smart' warhead would likely be crushed or damaged on impact.

Next is the cost factor, and ICBMs aren't cheap missiles and not something you want to try and "saturate" attack with for tactical hits.

Of course this also assumes that if Iran launched an ICBM the US or Israel would wait for a fucking ICBM to land to find out if it's nuclear or not before hitting their own launch buttons.

The best Iran could do with this is basically make a miniaturized version using knowledge of the "void sensor" technology to possibly make a mini-bunker buster cruise missile or glide bomb.

Actually, I'm just a lying kuffir imperialist dog.
Iran will drop reverse-engineered bunker busters all over Tel Aviv and Washington using its advanced 6th Gen Qaher 313 stealth fighters, inshallah!

 

[Maori Kiwifruit Growers]

It was a pre emptive strike but arguably more than justified given the mass build up of Arab forces seeking to crush them.

Egypt started it by imposing a blockade on Eilat via closing the Strait of Tiran to Israeli ships. A blockade is an act of war

Hence why I said technically. I'm not gonna be a faggot and say that Israel's actions were unjustified or some gay shit. I meant more in the pedantic type.

 

[Mr. Racewar1488]

Iran's first fifth-gen fighter is ready to fight the Great Satan and the Zionist Entity! The nose is too small for any kind of radar and I can guarantee it's using a copy of the engine from the F-5. The Ghost of Tehran is still using his trusty F-14 to shoot down F-35s.

 

[Scout Trooper]

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Iran's first fifth-gen fighter is ready to fight the Great Satan and the Zionist Entity! The nose is too small for any kind of radar and I can guarantee it's using a copy of the engine from the F-5. The Ghost of Tehran is still using his trusty F-14 to shoot down F-35s.

Okay but they connected a servo so you can make the pilot turn his head with this little knob on the controller.

 

[Super-Chevy454]

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Iran's first fifth-gen fighter is ready to fight the Great Satan and the Zionist Entity! The nose is too small for any kind of radar and I can guarantee it's using a copy of the engine from the F-5. The Ghost of Tehran is still using his trusty F-14 to shoot down F-35s.

As long as they didn't replaced some pieces with Chinese pieces made of tofu-dreg.

 

[Myrtle the Turtle]

The best Iran could do with this is basically make a miniaturized version using knowledge of the "void sensor" technology to possibly make a mini-bunker buster cruise missile or glide bomb.

The bomb is nothing special, it just weighs a ton and theres nothing in the Iranian fleet that could carry it. Its functionally useless to them since its such a unique weapon. Iran would need a stealth bomber to get close to hit anything of value in Israel. Im pretty sure there are some bunker busters that were unexploded by Israel in Lebanon and Syria that could be used by their R&D anyways.

The RQ-170 was a greater loss of technology for the US than a bunker buster bomb. I have doubts that theres unexploded ordinance at Fordow and they are just using it as an excuse to deny inspectors and make excuses for the construction occurring at the site.

 

[Knee Heel No Womb]

I don't feel like going through my posts but I know I made fun of this HealthRanger retard before.

Gotchu fam

It's over, Shahbros. China will shoot down all of our planes before they even leave the deck of the Lincoln.

 

[Mr. Racewar1488]

It's over, boys. The Ayatollah has found out how to make Agartha edits:

Ranges for Iran's missiles, not including their short-range ones.


Iran is burying the entrances to the Esfahan nuke site to try to protect it from American bombs.


Iran launched a super secret missile that's totally awesome. You won't see it though, she lives in Canada.


Iran's 747s have been busy picking up Chinese and Russian hardware.


If Iran fucks around they'll have to face off against our big, beautiful ships.


Russia is evacuating their personal from Iran's nuclear power plant.


Kushner and Witkoff want a quick nuke deal and don't care about missiles. Bibi doesn't want this of course. This is to give us time to get everything we need in place to fuck up Iran. We didn't start moving forces into the Caribbean until August and didn't churro Maduro until January so it's going to be a couple of months before we get a Happening.

 

[DumbDude43]

OMG, the Iranians have one of our bunker busters! True Promise 4 will be nothing but Iranian missiles tipped with bunker busters!!!!!
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The only source is the Iranian FM, lol. I don't feel like going through my posts but I know I made fun of this HealthRanger retard before. And so what if they have one? They weigh 30,000 pounds, the Iranians don't have a rocket powerful enough to carry that heavy of a payload and even if they did they don't have the precision to use it properly. "But China could get it!" Yeah, and? Their bombers, the H-6 which is a copy of the Tu-16, has a max bomb load of 20,000 pounds and would never get close to a target even if it could carry it.

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Iran is offering the same concessions has last time. lol, we're gonna cassarollah the Ayatollah.

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Operation Praying Mantis 2 incoming.

There's still a lot of C-17s and C-5s moving back and forth to the Gulf. Vance is currently in Armenia so nothing will be happening until he's out of there. As always, I will keep Monitoring The Situation.

>now they can reverse engineer it
munitions for penetrating through stone/concrete have been common for many decades, this isn't some kind of secret high tech miracle weapon.

 

[The Dude]

All this to say that if F-22 finally gets an air-to-air kill it's far more likely to get said kill against something it could call "Grandpa" than any real opposition.

The Kid deserves to finally get an intercept. The Kid needs to feed.

 

[Ghostse]

The only source is the Iranian FM, lol. I don't feel like going through my posts but I know I made fun of this HealthRanger retard before. And so what if they have one? They weigh 30,000 pounds, the Iranians don't have a rocket powerful enough to carry that heavy of a payload and even if they did they don't have the precision to use it properly. "But China could get it!" Yeah, and? Their bombers, the H-6 which is a copy of the Tu-16, has a max bomb load of 20,000 pounds and would never get close to a target even if it could carry it.

When they started work on what would be the AC-130 gunship with a C-47 with a buch of .50s shooting out the side, they wanted to see if they could put guns on the side of a transport craft. So they put a crude + on the side window of the C-47 in greasepencil to just serve as a target reference.
It turned out to be unnecessary to evolve the targeting much beyond that because it worked perfectly and after a few spotting bursts the pilot was able to put his remaining rounds on the target.

The bunker buster is the same. They just dropped a surplus cannon from a crane and realized that it had the exact properties they were looking for, and that it was fairly easy to get the bomb to detect things like how many floors it past through.
As you point out the "top secret" technology in it is pretty much "Weighs 15tons, dropped from high up".

They may be in a difficult position but the fact is they may not only survive the current crisis, but be relatively untouched and able to continue for the next several US administrations.

The momentum of the protests has significantly declined. An armed insurgency has mostly failed to materialize. The IRoI remains firmly in control.

Agreed, especially with Democrats and other muslim fifth columnists trying deny Trump any win and carrying water for pedophile terrorists.
I have very big concerns this ends with the Mullahs still in charge.

So when these Chinese supermissiles either fail or never get the chance to launch, what will this midwit say? Or will he just pretend it never happened?

What will he say when Iran shoots down yet another civilian airliner with them?

If these retards try to block the straight they will get bombed into oblivion. They already are going to get bombed into oblivion but thats besides the point. Strikes will probably take place next weekend, with the ammassment of personel and munitions there this is going to be a one and done deal. If other regional players are going to help aside from Isreal or EU Im assuming this will be done in a matter of hours.

Touch our boats you get the rope.

Bonus Middle Eastern racism:

Its so cute how Persians think anyone can actually tell them apart from Arabs.

Iran is also Shia and the only majority Shia country in the Gulf so you won't have other nations supporting them like we saw in Iraq and Syria.

If Iran had been sack tapped to stay the fuck out of Iraq, there would have been no insurgency of note. Iran, and the French money buying its orders as our stalwart Frog allies have and continue to try to end run sanctions, financed pretty much every major terrorist group attacking the west in the Mid east and elsewhere. Iraqi Shia would likely come to the government aid, but it won't be nation-state level help.
Russia is gettign sanction-fucked and is tied down in Ukraine, Iraq can't do much, China isn't going to stick its dick in sandnigger wars,

Honestly I think the whats going to happen is going to be a one and done strike kind of a thing maybe take out a couple of there military leaders and some of there fleet then play defense. I cant imagine with the protesters and other factions this will take more then a month before the ayotallah gets thrown out or runs

I think Israel is going to keep it up longer see: 12 days war.

The Bear and the Dragon by Tom Clancy has one guy internally monologue a description of the whole starting process of "negotiations" as "a married couple getting ready for intercourse by fighting over the TV remote as foreplay".

I've not yet seen any proof that Tom Clancy was wrong about that, only plenty of proof that he was correct.

I only wish Tom Clancy had lived to see the utter batshit state of geopolitics.

Comical Ali was interviewed years later in Egypt and was quite professional. he simply said he was doing the job the regime told him too at the time and that was it even if it did make him look like a fucking fool.

Eh I think that was at least 60% cope. He definitely wasn't a fanatic believer.

Ehhhh I have a feeling of the Kims went away and the secret police vanished the average North Korean wouldn't fight for shit

They'd just want to get fed

Sort of. They are deeply, deeply brainwashed .

 

[Gurney Halleck]

I only wish Tom Clancy had lived to see the utter batshit state of geopolitics.

The Clancyverse itself got pretty batshit towards the end with America teaming up with Russia against China and getting 9/11'd by Japan.

 

[donksmanSupreme42]

the Iranians have one of our bunker busters!

tbh the only part im worried about them having is the electronics, especially the KMU-612 guidance kit, which contains the GPS reciever and inertial navigation system

iran's domestic guidance units for their missiles are trash, if they manage to reverse engineer american INS and GPS devices, their missiles would be more accurate

ofc i doubt they have the manufacturing capacity to replicate these parts at a large scale

 

[Fanatical Pragmatist]

tbh the only part im worried about them having is the electronics, especially the KMU-612 guidance kit, which contains the GPS reciever and inertial navigation system

iran's domestic guidance units for their missiles are trash, if they manage to reverse engineer american INS and GPS devices, their missiles would be more accurate

ofc i doubt they have the manufacturing capacity to replicate these parts at a large scale

To be fair to Iran we haven't really seen the accuracy of their subsonic weapons, as most of the weapons fired at Israel were all either supersonic or worse hypersonic terminal velocity.

In fact, even early Shahed 131 & 136 used by Russia in Ukraine were able to consistently hit the intended target, with vulnerability to shoot-down being a bigger concern than accuracy.

This isn't to say the GBU-57 doesn't have an amazing guidance package, as evidenced by the consistent double-taps in the Fordow strike, but the actual gain of reverse engineering that kind of guidance would be minimal.