Official Kiwi Farms Man-Hate Thread - Gorl Tawk's very own DMZ (De-Moidified Zone)

Holy shit.
Sorry all, I'm at the airport and don't have time to do screenshots but here is Milo Y (🤮) giving all the information :

Radfem Hitler says it best:
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Someone else said it, but wokian purity culture is some 'war is peace' shit.
The Correct Opinion is to be sex-positive at all times. But let's say you've noticed that a lot of girls have their lives ruined after their nudes get leaked, so you advise your friend not to open an OF like she's been considering. Well, that's sex-negative. In fact, you're shaming your friend for what she chooses to do with her body (the body and the self obviously being two entirely separate things 🏳️‍⚧️). Wow, when did you become such a nazi karen bitch?? If a trans WoC of colour sex-worker punches you in the face, you definitely had it coming 😒

Dworkin wrote about how there are two forms of antifeminism in Right Wing Women, the brothel and farming models. The former is propped up by modern libfem and sex posi crap, the latter is tradwifery. She then went on to discuss how both of those models cater to males as opposed to radical feminism:

Seeing the indifference of men to human freedom, seeing the enthusiasm of men for diminishing others through physical domination, seeing the invisibility of women to men, seeing the absolute disregard of humanity in women by men, seeing the disdain of men for women’s lives, and not wanting to die, women propose two very different solutions for themselves in relation to men and this man’s world.

The first honors the sexual and reproductive imperatives of men. This is the right-wing solution, though those who pursue it are— in terms of male-defined politics—all along the political spectrum from far Right to far Left. In this solution, women accept the definition of their sex class, and within the terms of that definition fight for crumbs of self-respect and social, economic, and creative worth. Socialist movements and revolutions are predicated on an acceptance of this sex-class definition, as are right-wing movements and counterinsurgencies. The far-Right expression of this solution is usually highly religious, and it is the religious idiom that makes it distinguishable from other expressions of what is essentially the same accommodation to male power. Specifically, the sex-class accommodation is seen as a function of religious orthodoxy: in accommodating, women are faithful to a divine father; women accept traditional religious descriptions of women, female sexuality, and female nature; women accept the duties of sexual and reproductive submission to men. The far-Right solution translates the presumed biological destiny of women into a politics of orthodox religion: even in a secular republic, far-Right women live in a theocracy. Religion shrouds women in real as well as magical grace in that the sex-class functions of women are formally honored, carefully spelled out, and exploited within clear and established boundaries.

The second solution is offered by feminists. It proposes, in the words of Elizabeth Cady Stanton, “the individuality of each human soul... In discussing the rights of woman, we are to consider, first, what belongs to her as an individual, in a world of her own, the arbiter of her own destiny... ” This is simply a recognition of the human condition, in which women are included. It is also the precondition for the realization of Marx’s greatest ethical idea: from each according to her ability, to each according to her need. It is the imposition of the sex-class definition of women on women—by any means necessary—that devastates the human capacities of women, making them men’s subordinates, making them “women. ” Feminists have a vision of women, even women, as individual human beings; and this vision annihilates the system of gender polarity in which men are superior and powerful.
 
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Show me one man who's ever truly fixed a BPD woman. One. I'm all for emasculating moids, but asking a fish to climb a tree is gonna end in failure every single time. PDs can't be fixed, only managed, and that process must start with the PD-afflicted person's own desire to Do Better(tm) in order to be effective in any way. And guess what? Most of them don't give a shit about doing better. That's why everybody, female and male alike, fucking hates them, and why it's not possible to """fix""" them even if you ❤️love❤️ them.

People with PD also don’t see a reason to fix themselves because people tend to feed into it. Look at the same men picking up BPD pooners and calling her they/he/whatever. It’s a basic affirmation that these women lap up. They don’t perceive themselves as actual individuals but an amalgamation of different traits, needs, and emotions. They perceive themselves a hole to be filled by whatever means. You can pretty much do everything short of beating the shit out of them and it’s all fine. Why? Because you smile and pat give them whatever they want in that moment.

No matter how off the rails she gets, the men stay. Not because he loves her, but because she’s so easy to control once you find the things that makes her tick. She wants to larp as a gay man and take HRT, just call her whatever she wants and you’ll get your way. That’s why when these dude finally leave, her current identity collapses. She either immediately finds the next similar guy, or out right reinvents herself.

If you choose to love someone like that without question, so be it. But don’t treat PDs like a chronic condition or a biologically influenced mental disorder. She doesn’t have cancer, you can’t just cure it and monitor for it to come back. Her formative years has shaped how her personality functions, and unfortunately people like that aren’t just timid little girls that need a hug. They need genuine psychological intervention to help manage and to redefine their twisted perspective of themselves and those around them. And this all requires constant and active monitoring and participation on part of the individual. Unless they’re actively putting the work in to manage their thoughts, and have done so for years, you have no business being associated with them romantically.
 
Sexualized abuse is still abuse. I understand what you're saying here about the fact that women who are rape-proponents and kink-posi aren't doing themselves any favors when patriarchy does its dance against them by acting/writing like they liked it, but no woman anywhere deserves to be abused, regardless of how sultrily she begs for it and performs for it. A guy is going to date a woman who "wants" to be raped because he himself wants to rape a woman. He will objectify her because she, through trauma or mental illness, is objectifying herself.
I agree, you put it better than i could in my personal frustration with these specific individuals. thats my fault
 
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All that ever happens is blaming women for being "BPDemons" to absolve men of any misdeed. It's the new "hysteria".
Somehow it's never the male's fault for purposefully engaging with mentally unwell women and pushing them to react or give them ammunition for their next crisis. A woman does something stupid? She must be a hysterical whore with a personality disorder! Anything to avoid accountability. Males play stupid games and wonder why they win stupid prizes.
 
No matter how off the rails she gets, the men stay. Not because he loves her, but because she’s so easy to control once you find the things that makes her tick. She wants to larp as a gay man and take HRT, just call her whatever she wants and you’ll get your way. That’s why when these dude finally leave, her current identity collapses. She either immediately finds the next similar guy, or out right reinvents herself.
Don't forgot how moids like to fetishize mentally ill women because "crazy chicks are good in bed." If anything, they're just more likely to agree to degrading or extreme sex acts and forgo condoms, which I guess is the same as being good at sex to men.
 
Males play stupid games and wonder why they win stupid prizes.
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The ideal end to the TT situation.

Men fuck "crazy" women because they:
1. Don't believe women are actually crazy. They think they're faking it for attention or choosing it as a manipulation.
2. Think they can control women.
3. Fetishize mental illness in women.

All Travis Alexander did was sexually use Jodi Arias and then go and brag to his friends that he was "sticking [his] dick in crazy" while also telling them how craaaaaaazy she was!!!!...only to go and fuck her again. She repeatedly demonstrated that she was unhinged, yet time and time again, even AFTER hanging out/going out on dates with other women he was two-timing, he'd invited Arias over to his place, gave her a key, rescinded the key, picked her up and dropped her off, took little weekend vacays with her, etc.

Mental Health Awareness? You bout to be real mf aware, nigga.
 
The ideal end to the TT situation.
i mean you can already see the parallels in how he treated both girls. ill give him (very miniscule) credit that he ghosted katie instead of stringing her along but he did not do the same w the other girl. fuckboi behavior + mental illness is just a powder keg and i dont feel bad for the moid when it blows up in his face lol
1. Don't believe women are actually crazy. They think they're faking it for attention or choosing it as a manipulation.
2. Think they can control women.
3. Fetishize mental illness in women.
I think one other reason is some ugly moids know they can get with a woman way out of their league if she is ill enough. idk if boogie is still with his child bride but that's one instance that comes to mind.
 
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I’m not going to go into too much detail, but one of my friends is trying to leave a physically abusive relationship and the cops are beyond useless. She has video evidence and they won’t do anything. I knew that cops bungle DV situations constantly, but I haven’t had an IRL experience up until now. I am so angry and I don’t know what to do.
 
I’m not going to go into too much detail, but one of my friends is trying to leave a physically abusive relationship and the cops are beyond useless. She has video evidence and they won’t do anything. I knew that cops bungle DV situations constantly, but I haven’t had an IRL experience up until now. I am so angry and I don’t know what to do.
Be there for her as much as possible. That's the best thing to do. Here are some other perhaps unconventional things I've learned after escaping one myself and helping friends and loved ones escape:

1. Have a full tank of gas in your car at any time. Hers, too, if she has one. Occasionally sweep it for trackers. Here's a video on how to do that.

2. In a safe place, have an escape bag. I knew someone who had to share her car with her husband, and she escaped on foot with what she was wearing. Luckily, someone she knew had a bag stashed for her at their place. She had in there some of her clothes, medications, a spare cellphone and charger, cash in various bills, important documents like birth certificate and SSN card, etc. Stuff she needed. Also, a pair of keys she'd made so that she could get back into their house when he wasn't there.

3. Since your friend has evidence, share that evidence with trusted people. Abusers will destroy evidence any way they can.

4. Know your local resources. Women's shelters are closing at rapid rates and we all know why, but there are DV resources out there. Find them and keep note of them. Take note of digital resources as well, like this survivor toolkit.

5. Tell her job, if she has one. HR has DV resources, sometimes. Sometimes this can be a risk, since jobs would sometimes rather fire someone than deal with anything, but it will help in case he comes to her job looking for her. That way, no one will accidentally slip her schedule. Loose lips sink ships.

6. Turn off location on cell phones, tablets, computers, whatever. Don't let him track her.

7. If possible, consider buying and stashing prepaid gift cards. These things are lifesavers for women leaving an abusive situation. An organization I worked with would have on hand, at any given moment, gift cards to local restaurants and stores (like grocery stores) to help feed women and their children in hiding. Everyone deserves that peace of mind.

8. Have important phone numbers, addresses, and contacts, etc., written and stashed somewhere, preferably with a trusted source. Abusers steal or smash phones and sadly, phones are lifelines for most of us these days.

9. Be armed. Firearms are the best defense, but they can be hard to use for the inexperienced. Tasers, sure, whatever. Knives and other sharps can help in a quick self-defense.

Good luck to you and your friend. I'm sorry she's going through this. We're here to help with advice and sympathy, and I'd be more than willing to DM with you if you need any more advice or tips.
 
I’m not going to go into too much detail, but one of my friends is trying to leave a physically abusive relationship and the cops are beyond useless. She has video evidence and they won’t do anything. I knew that cops bungle DV situations constantly, but I haven’t had an IRL experience up until now. I am so angry and I don’t know what to do.
If she has pets she’s worried about, some animal shelters do temporary fostering for people leaving abusive situations, so they don’t adopt the animal out and just have a foster look after them for a couple months. In case this is hard to find, try to arrange something else for her, maybe a family friend who you know etc, so it’s not something holding her back.

Turning off locations is good, but make sure to change literally every single password too.
 
I’m not going to go into too much detail, but one of my friends is trying to leave a physically abusive relationship and the cops are beyond useless.
Whatever happens, he must NOT know she's trying to leave. That's the most dangerous period for women in abusive situations as chances are he'll either escalate the abuse or go on to trying to kill her outright. Moids like that go bonkers when they realize they're losing control but at heart they're cowardly bullies.
 
I haven't watched the videos and can't just yet--does the woman you posted ever make her stance known? It's very rare to see young women talk about Dworkin these days, let alone know her.
She makes pretty competent TL;DRs of her books.
>It's very rare to see young women talk about Dworkin these days, let alone know her.
See this entire Tom shit. They would rather leave behind religion and whatever harm the trickle down of gooning addiction on males has on them, just to be... accepted? be on the same level as men? (even though the field they wanna be even is fucking terrible). I saw like 2 women in a podcast trying to convince people that women actually have about the same sex drive as men and how sexual they are and a bunch of other bollocks.

Wacky shi
 
Off-topic post, but I've just watched Farrell McGuire's recent video essay and it is utterly horrifying:

TL;DR: Men co-opting the Pinterest algorithm to collect selfies and photos of young girls from the ages of 7-16 en mass. It's nothing new, but it's illuminating that so many of these pedophiles are completely brazen about creeping on these poor girls (case and point below).
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Even scrotes in the upper echelons of our society act in such a way, as revealed within the release of the Epstein files. No matter what their socioeconomic position is, men know that harassing girls like this will statistically yield zero legal or societal repercussions. If you're unfortunate enough to find yourself in the comment section of an innocent photo posted on social media by a little girl, you will see literal hordes of men (typically thirdies) flocking to comment the most depraved shit possible. A unnerving proportion of these accounts will have their full name, face and, god forbid, photos of their wives and daughters. It is sickening. I don't usually condone inhibiting anonymity on the internet, but these men deserve all of the societal (and physical) consequences that would follow from getting doxxed.

Of course Daniel Larson is also involved within this awful rabbit hole.

The scale at which these rings operate is horrifying. It was revealed that one of these 'Pinterest content creator' girls (aged eight) had almost one million monthly visitors. I want to have children down the line, but sometimes I pray that I do not have a daughter. It would almost feel like a cruel punishment bringing her into such an awful world.
 
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The ideal end to the TT situation.

Men fuck "crazy" women because they:
1. Don't believe women are actually crazy. They think they're faking it for attention or choosing it as a manipulation.
2. Think they can control women.
3. Fetishize mental illness in women.

All Travis Alexander did was sexually use Jodi Arias and then go and brag to his friends that he was "sticking [his] dick in crazy" while also telling them how craaaaaaazy she was!!!!...only to go and fuck her again. She repeatedly demonstrated that she was unhinged, yet time and time again, even AFTER hanging out/going out on dates with other women he was two-timing, he'd invited Arias over to his place, gave her a key, rescinded the key, picked her up and dropped her off, took little weekend vacays with her, etc.

Mental Health Awareness? You bout to be real mf aware, nigga.
Does anyone else think this guy resembles a somewhat less dysgenic Chris-chan?

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Off-topic post, but I've just watched Farrell McGuire's recent video essay and it is utterly horrifying:
https://youtube.com/watch?v=TXkmmrrUlSU
TL;DR: Men co-opting the Pinterest algorithm to collect selfies and photos of young girls from the ages of 7-16 en mass. It's nothing new, but it's illuminating that so many of these pedophiles are completely brazen about creeping on these poor girls (case and point below).
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Even scrotes in the upper echelons of our society act in such a way, as revealed within the release of the Epstein files. No matter what their socioeconomic position is, men know that harassing girls like this will statistically yield zero legal or societal repercussions. If you're unfortunate enough to find yourself in the comment section of an innocent photo posted on social media by a little girl, you will see literal hordes of men (typically thirdies) flocking to comment the most depraved shit possible. A unnerving proportion of these accounts will have their full name, face and, god forbid, photos of their wives and daughters. It is sickening. I don't usually condone inhibiting anonymity on the internet, but these men deserve all of the societal (and physical) consequences that would follow from getting doxxed.

Of course Daniel Larson is also involved within this awful rabbit hole.

The scale at which these rings operate is horrifying. It was revealed that one of these 'Pinterest content creator' girls (aged eight) had almost one million monthly visitors. I want to have children down the line, but sometimes I pray that I do not have a daughter. It would almost feel like a cruel punishment bringing her into such an awful world.
Of course males take something fun aka pinterest and turn it into their stomping grounds for pedophilia and degeneracy
 
r/parentsnark has recently been pearl-clutching over people judging boys for being unruly little monsters, and women expressing that they don’t want sons (called gender disappointment). It’s like a weekly thing now. And sure, it’s Reddit, odds are half the posters are bots, trannies, or larpers. But the hand-wringing is still absurd. It’s one of the last subreddits I check because it’s sometimes funny and sometimes picks on silly parenting stuff, but the “please think of the moids!” is beyond annoying. I cannot take seriously the idea that anyone, including mothers of sons, is genuinely offended by the concept that some women are distressed about having male children.

Women have held (some) real power for a microscopic sliver of human history. Even now, I routinely see millennial and zoomer women deferential to useless males who actively worsen their lives. All it takes to see what males are doing to women is opening a news site. The sale of child brides is the economic backbone of entire countries. Female infants and fetuses are systematically destroyed in multiple cultures and I think sex-selective abortion against girls is almost certainly happening in the U.S. where those cultures are present like Deerborn, MI.

There has never been a parallel, global system of male disposability enacted by women. No country’s GDP has ever depended on the sale of child husbands. Male suffering has overwhelmingly been inflicted by other males through war, abuse, and hierarchy, not by women.

The idea that it’s insane or offensive for a woman to feel grief or dread about carrying and birthing a male child is what’s actually insane. One in four women in the U.S. has been sexually assaulted. Virtually every woman alive has experienced unwanted male attention or male abuse of some kind. I can’t think of a more understandable reaction than a woman feeling conflicted that her body, her blood, her bones, is now being used to create another male in that system. The scale mismatch between a woman saying, “oh I’m having a son, I really wanted a daughter” versus a bunch of female fetuses in a biohazard trash bin at an abortion clinic, or a bunch of infant girls being neglected in foster homes, is so extreme it feels surreal.

And the cope of “you can just raise him to be good.” How many generations of women make up the 300,000-year history of humankind? How about just the 10,000 years since agriculture was first invented? How many mothers have held their infant sons and thought, I’ll raise him differently than his father? If maternal effort were sufficient, male violence would be an anomaly by now. Are we seriously suggesting that mothers in the Middle East, Eritrea, Somalia, and elsewhere are simply choosing not to teach their sons that women are human beings? In 10,000 years we can turn a mouflon into a sheep, an aurochs into a cow, a wolf into a dog, but we can’t make males human because we just didn’t think about it until now?

That argument just blames women. If a son grows up to be a shitbag, suddenly it’s his mother’s moral failure.

They also whine about girls-only parties because girls are better behaved than boys. I always hear about how upset the mother is about their moidlets being excluded, I never see a post like, “my son was upset about this”. It’s always centered on the mother’s feelings of distress, it seems the moidlets don’t care at all. It’s just emotional martyrdom over something that hasn’t caused harm. “Won’t someone please think of the moidlets!” Hell no. Stop having them? And the claim that girls are just better behaved is itself a lie that hurts girls. Girls are policed earlier, punished harder, and expected to mature faster. Girls aren’t inherently better (well yeah they are, but you know what I mean), they’re just not allowed to be children the same way that boys are.

The other argument I see a lot from these mothers of sons is “men can’t be all bad or you wouldn’t have bred with one”. Like, come on. I think everyone who’s ever peaked on trannies can make a conclusion that male abuse frequently begins or escalates during pregnancy, but it’s also hardly a realization unique to those who’ve peaked. It’s a period when women are most vulnerable and least able to leave. And even if the woman has finally found her nigel who’s one in a million, she’s likely had enough experience with other scrotes to be dismayed at the thought of having one.

I just really cannot reiterate enough that what’s upset these women is another woman feeling disappointment over having a son. She’s just feeling a feeling. There’s no systemic harm. There’s no suggestion she’s going to abort it (god I wish). She’s just kinda sad, she’ll most likely get over it and love her newborn son. That’s all. That’s it! The argument is if you’re not happy to have any baby, you shouldn’t have a baby at all. Most eyerolling of all is the comments suggesting the kid could be trans or nonbinary. Don’t worry, mama, your scroteling might grow up to troon out so you can let out a big sigh of relief. Whew, I’m so relieved that my son, Lilith, has almost certainly stolen my underwear in his pursuit of gender affirmation, thanks redditors.
For some reason, moids fail to grasp that two people can be at fault and they are dog piling Sacramento without also holding Tom accountable. He is still a predator and is a degen who is brain rotted by porn. Only a porn addict psychopath would partake in this hitting and choking during sex nonsense. Both are terrible people in my opinion but Sacramento's misdeeds don't magically absolve Tom of what he did
Kinda crazy to me that the “makes fun of lolcows” website drops the fact that tom is a lolcow whenever the need to shit on women arises. All the moral scolding all over her profile page has been so cringe, too. God, this is supposed to be a website where we laugh at people, I thought the moral outrage brigade was for tumblr or tiktok.
the normalization of violence against women in sex is extremely fucked up. the amount of people in my generation who just think strangulation is a totally normal if not expected feature of sex is so fucking disturbing.
I was startled to find out that choking is considered nbd by my zoomie coworkers when they were discussing dating advice. Apparently I’m an ancient hag for suggesting not to do that. TMD.
Dankula has gone full blown fucktard lolbert…
I stopped watching this retard when he made a video whining about those British policewomen running an anti-catcalling campaign. The collective mantrum over that campaign was unbearable.

There is no married for forty years couple on earth who met through catcalling. There is no lifelong love story that began with a stranger yelling sexual comments out of a car. No woman is fondly reminiscing about her meet-cute where a guy leaned out of a shitbox and screamed “nice tits, sweetheart.” Well, maybe troons.

A catcall is not harmless flirting. It’s unsolicited sexual attention. That’s why pretending it’s “romance” is laughable. Women who oppose catcalling are generally fine with mutual flirting or cold approaches in appropriate social settings. What they reject is being sexually shouted at while minding their own business. It’s completely unserious to frame men screaming sexual remarks at strangers as people earnestly trying to find love.

Also, let’s be real, they’re most likely targeting muslims and jeets with this. Catcalling is for low IQ, low impulse having types.
Edit: I also saw a female user the other day claiming that she read both gender wars threads and that this thread is soooo much worse while Woman Hate isn't serious and is just haha funny memes and jokes. It's just a microcosm of reality, I guess.
I read that thread sometimes and have never seen a point more cogent than “DAE hate it when HOAHS don’t FUCK you”. I was gonna mention it a while back when this thread had a few posts about “consent accidents” and contrast it as “woman hate thread: whining about not having female attention. Man hate thread: actual rape being downplayed by several men”. If that’s not a microcosm of the “gender war” then I don’t know what is. Maybe she finds the woman hate thread easier to handle because it’s not just a parade of actual heinous shit happening, it’s just lolcows crying about having a dry dick.
 
Unless a woman cheats on you, I really don't think BPD is that bad. Moids, you CAN fix her and failing to do so is emasculating. The secret is to accept her for who she is wholly and completely. In sickness and in health.
Nothing is worse than a man with BPD, though. It’s massively under-diagnosed in moids because it’s been gendered as “crazy bitch disease”. But imagine all the worst traits of a stereotypical typical BPDemon dialed up to 11 with more violence and substance abuse. Plus 75% of them are also sociopaths or narcissists on top of that.
 
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