US US Politics General 2: Hope Edition - Discussion of President Trump and other politicians

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Should be a wild four years.

Helpful links for those who need them:

Current members of the House of Representatives
https://www.house.gov/representatives

Current members of the Senate
https://www.senate.gov/senators/

Current members of the US Supreme Court
https://www.supremecourt.gov/about/biographies.aspx

Members of the Trump Administration
https://www.whitehouse.gov/administration/

 

[StudMccool]

When you visit a man's house for a party you play by the rules he sets or you can leave. This is a very basic principle of social etiquette that transcends history and borders. You don't disrespect a man's rules in his house and then feel entitled to stay there, especially when the man of the house is already more lenient than most, especially-especially when that man has a history of legal problems related to the rule you're disrespecting.


I like you fine Stud, but you're wrong here. Let it go

Live free or die

Free speech isent free cause we wrote it on a piece of paper

 

[The best and greatest]

Free speech isent free cause we wrote it on a piece of paper

Null also has rights, namely, the right to freely associate (or in this case to not associate) with people who fedpost on the privately owned website that is his.

 

[Gay Sex Enjoyer]

Pretty sure Jersh didn't personally ban the guy

 

[StudMccool]

Null also has rights, namely, the right to freely associate (or in this case to not associate) with people who fedpost on the privately owned website that is his.

Dosent change how I feel

 

[The best and greatest]

Pretty sure Jersh didn't personally ban the guy

This doesn't actually matter. The mods act on his behalf enforcing the ruleset he mandates.

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Dosent change how I feel

Fair enough

 

[Smithfield Ham]

Democrats are asked if you should have to be a U.S. citizen to vote in our elections.

Not a single one can give a straight answer.

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Bro in the thumbnail curling up like that one Breadtuber guy who was like "I'm trying to get your attention." Very buglike. Very cringe.

 

[Fabio Socialist]

Lexie Lawler. Erik Martindale. Malinda Rose Cook. SAY THEIR NAMES, because they can no longer speak. Three brave healthcare workers have lost their jobs in a tragic violation of the sacred First Amendment of Our Democracy. How many more innocent lives will be destroyed by this tyrannical Amerikkkan police state?

 

[Breadbassket]

Again, the proper response for this involves cheap rope and trees. Leftist judges and DAs can't let people get away with things if the criminals are dead.

The message expressed in this post is rather extreme but at the same time it must be acknowledged that people have the potential to not react positively when they believe the legal system has failed and that the article that was being responded to is a tale of how property rights and the social contract can be defiled. With the circumstances in mind, the court's actions within the story are of greater consequence then the squatter who benefited from them as it has now set a precedent for the situation to be repeated elsewhere. The United States must not fall to the United Kingdom's level in this regard.

Here are some excerpts from the Daily Mail article to ponder on:

A squatter who took over an empty house that belonged to a pensioner and won the right to become its legal owner has sold it for £540,000, MailOnline can reveal.

Keith Best was accused of effectively 'stealing' the three-bedroom semi-detached home in Newbury Park, east London, from Colin Curtis, who previously lived there with his mother but then moved out in the late 1990s, leaving it empty.

After spotting the vacant home while working in the neighbourhood, builder Mr Best started treating it at his own and then began renovating it, formally moving in with his wife and child in 2012.
A few months later he applied to the courts for permanent possession of the property, which was worth around £400,000 at the time.

He won following an appeal despite the judge accepting that he had committed criminal trespass.

The new owner Atiq Hayat, 35, told MailOnline: 'This property was sold to us by Keith Best who was the legal owner.

'His name appeared on all the documents related to this house and everything was done properly, and we have nothing to worry about.

'I never met Mr Best, but my sisters did twice, when they came to see the property. It was in a very good condition, and he seemed like a very genuine man. The sale was done in the proper legal way through solicitors, so we didn't have a lot to do with him.'

Mr Hayat revealed that the family did not know about their home's controversial past until informed by MailOnline.

He said: 'I don't understand how something like this can happen. How can you just take over an empty house and make it your own, isn't that theft? It doesn't make sense to me. How could the courts have just allowed him to become the legal owner?

'I'm quite shocked at hearing how Mr Best got this home. He never said anything to us, but why would he? Some neighbours have mentioned it to us in the past, but we've never heard the full details. It's crazy to think that you can see an empty home and just take it over and the court is OK with that.'

The legal saga around the home started after Mr Best, 54, submitted an application for adverse possession – under which a trespasser can win rights to somewhere they do not legally own if they can demonstrate they had 'control' over the building or land for a considerable period of time.

He was initially turned down by the Chief Land Registrar as his claim came just a few weeks after squatting was criminalised under Legal Aid, Sentencing and Punishment of Offenders Act.

However, this was overruled by the High Court in 2014, with Mr Justice Ouseley ruling that the Registrar's decision was 'founded on an error of law,' and previous legislation which treated squatting as a civil matter should apply, resulting in Mr Best being made the legal owner of the home.

The judge also ruled that adverse possession was still possible in any private property where at least ten years had passed 'without effective action by the owner'.

Mr Curtis, who passed away aged 80 in 2018 then launched a counter claim, but this was dismissed by Judge Elizabeth Cooke on the basis that he was not a registered administrator of his mother's estate and had no legal right to fight for her home

Doris Curtis had died without a will and her son had not realised he had to apply to become an administrator.

Even though Mr Curtis continued to pay council tax, he rarely visited the property and barely maintained it, giving Mr Best the ideal opportunity to take it over.

Mr Best argued in court that he had been looking after the home for more than a decade, which gave him the right to become its legal owner.

One neighbour said: 'This house has a very troubled past because there is no way Best should have got his hands on it for free. A lot of people around here are still very angry that he was allowed to get away with it and that the law backed him.

'Doris would have been turning in her grave. They were a very hard working, east end family and her descendants should have benefited from this house. But the family who now live there now are wonderful and it's nice to see it as a loving home once again. You can't blame them for what happened.'

Since moving in, the Hayat family have carried out considerable renovation work, and built a back and roof extension. Their property is currently worth around £650.000.

Mr Hayat said: 'It's very sad to hear about how this house was at the centre of so much trouble. But it just goes to show the importance of looking after any property that is in your family.'

Reading this, one could very well make the argument that this was effectively legalized robbery. The new owners of the home even commented on the shocking nature of the situation.

There is a sub-section of the article on how the laws and British court made the whole ordeal a sham (important parts have been made bold for emphasis):

Squatting was made a criminal offence in England and Wales in September 2012. To do it in a residential building can lead to six months in prison, as well as a £5,000 fine.

However before it was criminalised, squatters could claim ownership of a property by living in it for a certain period of time.

If the land was unregistered, a trespasser could claim rights to it after 12 years of so-called ‘adverse possession’. If registered, they could apply to be owner after occupying it for ten years. The original owner had up to two years to obtain possession – but if this did not happen, the squatter remained in possession.

Keith Best’s attempt to register ownership of Colin Curtis’ house was initially blocked because it was made a few weeks after the law was changed.

However he was then granted ownership in a High Court ruling in 2014.

The judge said previous legislation – which treated squatting as a civil matter – should apply.

 

[FagDiddler]

This is really sad cus his vid about washing machines and christmas lights were informative.
He always did sound like a fag, though.

Yeah, I've always liked the video's I've seen from him. They weren't always high research, but a multi hour long series on RCA R&D and the company's fall from grace is exactly the sort of YouTube slop I'll eat up. But one of the things I most liked about him was that we wasn't political. He's a technology channel, and in the past he'd always skirt around political issues like it was the devil. There was always the sense that if he did talk about politics they wouldn't align with my views, but that really didn't matter in the slightest because I don't want politics of any kind to pollute videos where they'd have no place.

Might be a sign of the times that even the most niche Internet personalities can't help but rant about politics; it could be a grave sign for the future. Or maybe it doesn't mean anything beyond this one guy having a 'tism fit. But it's definitely disappointing to see.

 

[The Secret Sauce]

so many of these "leaks" these days are written like straight up confession letters where every point is iterated with every intention behind it so there can be NO doubt what bill did

What crime did he admit to in the picture you shared? You're acting like he said "Hello, my pedophile compatriot. I am writing to discuss our recent spree of highly illegal child rape". If you saw this exact email on your boss's computer, you'd probably assume the indiscretion was something along the lines of insider trading at the very worst. I guess you were expecting some opaque coded language you might see in a spy thriller?
Putting that aside, I don't think being bad at concealing your crimes is a good defense. Especially when the people involved flew to a child molestation island aboard a plane they called the Lolita Express. Especially when the official story they fed us was "He hanged himself in his prison cell which was specifically designed to be suicide proof, and both of the guards assigned to him happened to call in sick that day, and there was just no possible way to get a different guard to cover for them. Oh, and the CCTV camera also malfunctioned haha whoopsie daisy!".
If they were intensely committed to covering their tracks in every way they possibly could, they would've done a lot of things differently. The plane should've been called "WYQGJR-937", not Lolita Express. The child rape temple should've been built underground, or better yet, not built at all. He shouldn't have displayed a painting of known sex pest Bill Clinton wearing a dress in his home. He shouldn't have been trying so hard to be famous. He shouldn't have published a fluff piece in GQ flaunting his playboy lifestyle and his vast network of influential associates. He should've been shanked by a guy in the chow line, and someone should've immediately shanked the guy who killed him. Really, he shouldn't have been arrested at all. He should've suffered an unfortunate accident in his home. The reality is that you're applying the rationale of a regular Joe to an international child sex trafficking ring who had US Presidents and billionaires in their pocket. It would be strange if they weren't monstrously arrogant. It would be strange if they weren't the weirdest fucking people you've ever heard of.

 

[Hojicha]

What crime did he admit to in the picture you shared? You're acting like he said "Hello, my pedophile compatriot. I am writing to discuss our recent spree of highly illegal child rape". If you saw this exact email on your boss's computer, you'd probably assume the indiscretion was something along the lines of insider trading at the very worst.

Well, if anything I can at least see where the similarities of being obsessed with impregnation/gene science/fertility stuff being a mutual interest of theirs.

 

[LeChampion1992]

[citation fucking needed]

>UK and Australia are now commie dystopia shitholes comparable to North Korea
>most of Europe is erasing actual right-wing candidates and parties from ballots
>Spain recently approved a royal decree to accept 500,000 illegals
>Zoomers are more far-left than any other generation in history
>The Trump admin has been a complete dumpster fire setting right-wing thought back by centuries
There is no future for the right in the western world.

I mean you're not wrong about europe and most euros are coping as for this administration the jury is still out on that claim.

I just got to the part. His stuff was pretty sane up until the switch up from complaining about power grid and wifi issues to signaling about republicans and ice and shit. The way he talks it seems like he was impatient to get out the rest of whatever script he had to get to the republican/ICE shit which is sad because he seemed kinda passionate about things whenever he was writing out the other stuff. This kind of politics team shit grips people and robs them of their soul man shit's fucked.

At the end of the day the average lefty thinks that everyone on the right is either dumb or bigoted. The problem with politics is its designed to override your emotions and make you upset.
The pro immigration propaganda uses kids and dead people and runs people via confirmation biases to make people believe its happening.
Its sad to think about it but everyone is fuck Trump fuck ice because they're true believers that it must be that bad.

 

[babyDunk]

Stephen Miller’s wife is posting about saving the White race:
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https://x.com/katiemiller/status/2017434313881526659?s=46

Horrible! Is she nawt jewish though?

 

[The Last Stand]

Aww, sweet. More in-site drama. At least this is proof that politics are irrelevant if you turn into a potential nuisance or liability.

Force is, at it's core, violence.

Ultimately, you don't break laws because the Government will kill you for it. This is true for every law, from murder, to rape, to jaywalking, to paying your taxes. You obey those laws because you will be fined (or worse) for it. You pay those fines because you will be forced into jail if you don't. You go to jail becuase they'll kill you if you refuse.

Jaywalking is only illegal because at the end of the day the government can kill you for it.

Your sound like a disgruntled 1950s libertarian. Maybe watch an old movie to calm yourself down. May I suggest a Carole Landis flick?

 

[TyrasGuard]

Horrible! Is she nawt jewish though?

I have to assume even Jews looked at the Indian menace and thought, "ok maybe whitey is not so bad".

 

[not william stenchever]

I say equivalent exchange, fatpacks get two months ban for 404 back now

DO YOU WANT TO SEVER THE THREAD OF PROPHECY?

 

[SIMIΔN]

Oof, gonna be awkward when she shows up to Usha's baby shower...

Isn't she browner than Usha?
Elon Musk allegedly pissed off Trump by making a pass at Mrs Miller.
Maybe he thought she was one of his beloved Indians.

 

[Cynicaller]

HOW DARE YOU THREADBAN THIS MAN, THIS IS THE MOST AMERICAN SENTIMENT I'VE EVER SEEN.

If you actually read the DailyMail article he was reacting to, it becomes hilarious how paranoid and delusional he is.

The guy who owned the house moved out in the late 90s and never maintained the house nor even visited it to assess its security since.
The only reason Mr. Best was granted ownership of the house is because he petitioned the court for ownership only a few weeks after squatting was formally criminalized and was no longer a civil matter, additionally adverse possession was ruled to still apply and complete inaction from a property owner exceeding 10 years effectively forfeited the property rights.

Now, the original property owner, Mr. Curtis, could have actually fought to retain the rights to his home... had his mother had the foresight to actually have a will to declare who gets possession of the home and who controls her estate. Her dumbass son never investigated the law and for over 15 years never applied to become an administrator for his mother's estate, so his case was thrown out.

So:
- Retarded mother never wrote a will or in any other legal way ensured her children had security over her estate in the event of her passing
- Retarded son who could not be fucked to maintain his own property, let alone visit it, let alone educate himself on how to properly administrate his mother's estate
- Guy who maintained the property for years, who was legally knowledgeable, taking over the property.

By all means, Mr. Curtis was treating his own family home like a foreign real estate mogul, absorbing property and doing absolutely fuckall with it.

And 404 wrote a page of nothing but appeal to emotion over it like a pearl clutching sucker.

Pathetic!

 

[TyrasGuard]

Isn't she browner than Usha?
Elon Musk allegedly pissed off Trump by making a pass at Mrs Miller.
Maybe he thought she was one of his beloved Indians.

Oh I'd love to know what Elon making a pass at someone looks like.

 

[janer]

Oh I'd love to know what Elon making a pass at someone looks like.

Something something kekius maximus keanu big chungus wholesome 100