US US Politics General 2: Hope Edition - Discussion of President Trump and other politicians

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Should be a wild four years.

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Members of the Trump Administration
https://www.whitehouse.gov/administration/

 

[Vivziepop Hitler]

You're leaving out the "As he tried to pull it on the cop that shot him" part again and again, wanna explain why you keep leaving that part out?

Because that didn't happen. We have body-cam footage, he wasn't trying to draw the weapon. It went off outside of his possession due to a manufacturing defect or worse, the ICE agent fired preemptively for no reason and just decided to keep pulling the trigger.

If the suspect was being aggressive and was actively trying to use the gun to impede law enforcement? Of course. Take the gun away to de-escalate the situation. Return it later if there's no problem or keep it if there's a conviction. But that has nothing to do with what I'm saying, the cut and dry situation is a protestor was carrying a concealed firearm, it was taken away, then he was shot while actively apprehended. If this guy was a nigger you would see Minnesota burning down even faster because of course what happened to him is bullshit. ICE would not be running damage control if it wasn't.

I already know what the replies will be. "He just shouldn't have been there." "He just shouldn't have possessed a gun." "He just should have kept his firearm in a safe at all times." "He just shouldn't question the state or participate in legal protests." It's so tiresome, this thread tries so hard to galvanize every single Kekistani MAGA strawman meme. It's embarrassing. None of you are right-wing.

 

[Sekirodiealot]

One killed a pedo and wounded a soy. The other flopped around like a nigger accidentally choking a woman and trying to block feds.

Really makes you think.

it does since i'm seeing so many people turning anyone killed by ICE into martyrs

 

[XYZpdq Jr.]

I hope we get more footage of them only getting hurt
the ones where they die end too soon

 

[Catch The Rainbow]

August 2025, Tom Artiom Alexandrovich, division head of Israel’s National Cyber Directorate under Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, was arrested in Nevada during a child predator sting. One of Israel’s top cyber officials, working directly under the prime minister, was caught allegedly trying to prey on children. In any functioning system, that’s career-ending, prison-worthy stuff. Instead? He was released back to Israel, protected by the very state apparatus he served. Shielded from accountability.

Being tried in court in March.

https://www.kolotv.com/2025/10/28/israeli-official-pleads-not-guilty-sex-crimes-clark-county/

An Israeli official, Tom Alexandrovich, has pleaded not guilty to sex crimes after being indicted by a Clark County Grand Jury, according to court documents.

Alexandrovich was arrested last month as part of a sting operation conducted by Metro Police.

He was accused of attempting to meet with an underage person through online platforms. The charges against him include luring children with the use of technology and the intent to engage in sex.
Alexandrovich’s trial is currently set for March of next year.

Take Malka Leifer, the Australian school principal accused of sexually abusing more than 70 girls. She fled to Israel in 2008. For years, she was shielded from extradition by Israel’s courts…

Shielded by Litzman who had to quit politics as part of a plea deal and paid a fine. She was extradited in 2021 and is in Australian prison.

Or Jimmy Julius Karow, from Oregon, who skipped out on child abuse charges of a 9-year-old girl and ran straight into the arms of Israel, gaining automatic citizenship under the Law of Return.

In Israeli prison right now for child abuse.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/israel-pedophile-suspect-gershon-kranczer-extradition-us-jimmy-karow-cbs-investigation/

Led to changes in the Israeli immigration system:

Soon after our investigation aired, Israel changed its policy and it now requires immigrating Americans to undergo an FBI background check.

"This was a really important step," Aaronson said. "Not enough to close all the holes, because there are so many people that can get through, through other ways and through other means, and there [are] certainly other efforts that are needed, but this was a very significant step."

The Israelis are working with the US now on it:

But Meier-Smith and her twin sister now want Karow extradited to the United States to face justice for what he allegedly did to them. We reached out to the district attorney in charge, who told us they're diligently working with U.S. authorities to get Karow back.

Or the case out of New York City: an unnamed man charged with eight counts of abuse with 13-year-old girls who fled to Canada and then straight into the arms of Israel.

Great, "unnamed man". Means I can't look it up.

Notice that you responded to my pointing out that Tucker supports organizations that endorse widespread child rape (and child marriage is child rape) by pointing out the few isolated cases where something happened and even in those few isolated cases, they were either extradited, are facing charges, or are in Israeli prison.



Even if I was completely incorrect about Israeli pedophiles, the point you are avoiding is that Tucker supports regimes that systematically rape children.

 

[GameratePTSD]

This is my point. The boot-garglers in this thread would absolutely support something like the police shooting a rowdy drunk at a bar because he had a legal pistol on his person. The idea of de-escalation no longer occurs to any of you, you're thrilled with the idea of a police state because it's currently being used on people you don't like.

How is a drunk getting loud in any way analogous to a member of a domestic terrorist organization undergoing an operation to impede the arrest of child rapists?

 

[King George III]

BTW Fox is starting to not buy the federal narrative either, Patel got fucking GRILLED on there yesterday

I find it quite comforting now knowing that only politispergs give a fuck about these retard commie faggots getting ventilated. Thank God for sportsball.

 

[Sensitive Young Man]

 

[Gay Sex Enjoyer]

I feel like the people conflating someone just happening to bring a gun for self defence to a protest where violence was already a concern and bringing a gun to a protest where you're planning to go out of your way to fuck with the cops are kinda missing the forest for the trees here.

There is nothing to suggest that Rittenhouse intended to shoot or harm or interfere with anyone, he showed up there to help put out fires and keep people from burning shit down. His intent is evidenced by him retreating at every possible instance and only firing when absolutely necessary along with immediately surrendering to the police and cooperating as much as humanly possible.

He was never the aggressor and tried to avoid confrontation as much as possible until he literally could not physically do so without being killed by the one-forearm wonder.

King Jew on the other hand brought a loaded gun stuffed in his pants and multiple mags to a protest specifically organized and planned out to fuck with federal agents, and then immediately began accosting and interfering with ICE officers directly. That was the entire reason he was there.

He actively inserted himself into confrontation, repeatedly, then resisted arrest, and then his shitty sig went off and got him killed in the scuffle he directly caused. Literally none of that would've happened if he just walked away or didn't act like a retard.

He could just leave. Kyle couldn't.

 

[babyDunk]

To all the doomers btw

Mass deportations is a winning issue politically. Even CNN admits it.

Majorities between 55% to 64% want ALL illegals deported. No exceptions. 55% also want less legal immigration. There is ZERO reason to back down. Full speed ahead on deportations. And cancel legal pathways.


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These polls numbers are old btw!

and in fact 70% of people are against ICE when polled

Notice how the questions are phrased differently.

The comparisons will continue until MAGA stops pretending the Second Amendment ends because you're at a protest.

Please, go fight with LEO while armed(Please DO NOT DO THAT)

This is my point. The boot-garglers in this thread would absolutely support something like the police shooting a rowdy drunk at a bar because he had a legal pistol on his person. The idea of de-escalation no longer occurs to any of you, you're thrilled with the idea of a police state because it's currently being used on people you don't like.

Are you fucking stupid?Are you trolling?

 

[Sammich]

regimes that systematically rape children.

I mean he doesn't really support israel anymore, but you sure do.

 

[The Ugly One]

"He just shouldn't question the state or participate in legal protests."

It's actually not a legal protest to interfere with law enforcement.

 

[Blewberry Nausea]

BTW Fox is starting to not buy the federal narrative either, Patel got fucking GRILLED on there yesterday

https://youtube.com/watch?v=zVEELERQVTc

Excuse me everyone, sorry

Spoiler: just for StudMccool

FOX NEWS DOES NOT WORK THAT WAY. SOMETIMES SEPARATE INTERVIEWERS AND COMMENTATORS WILL ESPOUSE DIFFERENT VIEWS ON AN ISSUE THAT ARE INCONGRUENT WITH ‘THE NARRATIVE’. BECAUSE THAT HAPPENS SOMETIMES. STOP PRETENDING LIKE IT IS SOME MONOLITHIC SHIFT FOR THE WHOLE OF THE COMPANY JESUS CHRIST YOU RETARD.

Being tried in court in March.

Being tried OVER ZOOM in March while still in Israel. Probably freeballing

 

[Platonic Cat Lover]

My mom's cousin in Italy (he's in his late 60s or 70s) posted this on Facebook. So cringe.

Stick to acting Curtis you dumb privileged cunt. Yes they were shot by the government but that's because they were threatening the lives of ICE.

Go to hell bitch

 

[autistic dog]

I don't know who Alex Pretti is, but I been seeing Kyle Rittenhouse comparison to the guy
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For Trump's next trick he will convince the left to support guns and Kyle Rittenhouse.

 

[Sensitive Young Man]

https://x.com/alibradleytv/status/2015902460473204757?s=46

I’ve already seen clips of CNN running headlines that CBP is pulling out and that Bovino got fired. In case you couldn’t tell, that’s fake news.

 

[RedRage]

I already know what the replies will be.

Goes on to list a variety of solutions that would have kept the soyfag alive long enough for his gun to kill him randomly some other day
you know what people are going to say, because there's a part of you that realizes this fag was an adult equivalent of a toddler shoving a fork in an electrical socket while expecting nothing to go wrong. I have little to zero sympathy for someone who went out of his way to engage with police, the only people he would be engaging with while protesting ICE, while carrying a firearm, and extra mags, ending up getting shot cause he felt the need to not comply. He went there to fuck around, he found out.

 

[Mister Fister]

Because that didn't happen. We have body-cam footage, he wasn't trying to draw the weapon. It went off outside of his possession due to a manufacturing defect or worse, the ICE agent fired preemptively for no reason and just decided to keep pulling the trigger.

If the suspect was being aggressive and was actively trying to use the gun to impede law enforcement? Of course. Take the gun away to de-escalate the situation. Return it later if there's no problem or keep it if there's a conviction. But that has nothing to do with what I'm saying, the cut and dry situation is a protestor was carrying a concealed firearm, it was taken away, then he was shot while actively apprehended. If this guy was a nigger you would see Minnesota burning down even faster because of course what happened to him is bullshit. ICE would not be running damage control if it wasn't.

I already know what the replies will be. "He just shouldn't have been there." "He just shouldn't have possessed a gun." "He just should have kept his firearm in a safe at all times." "He just shouldn't question the state or participate in legal protests." It's so tiresome, this thread tries so hard to galvanize every single Kekistani MAGA strawman meme. It's embarrassing. None of you are right-wing.

Stop watching your pedophile jap cartoons, it’s rotting your brain. It’s making you think attacking cops is cool. You have a jap cartoon as your avatar.

 

[Getting Tard Comed Jr]

I hope I wouldn't have to but these polls, and CNN's reporting in particular, are largely uninformative and merely used to manipulate. You look at the methodology and you'll see it filters out the majority of non leftists who aren't even gonna bother responding in the first place. You'd know this since at least a year and a half ago where polls were saying that Kamala was ahead of Trump. CNN is extra manipulative because NYT and Quinnipiac (via Fox News) don't agree.

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But if you're a mouth breather watching CNN you'd think, "wow, even the NYT and Fox agree that people are turning on ICE under Trump's watch." It's not meant to inform, it's meant to confuse and propagandize.

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Thats his point. His point was dont use CNN polling when it supports your side if youre not willing to accept their polling when they go against your side.

 

[CaliforniaRaisin]

The comparisons will continue until MAGA stops pretending the Second Amendment ends because you're at a protest.

It's not even really MAGA. There's a subset that is terrified of saying the words "The guy probably shouldn't have been shot" because of the implications. So, instead, some people have made the determination, and have reversed engineered the scenario so it justifies it.

Yes, a CCW requires certain behavior when interacting with LEO and carrying - doesn't justify a mag dump.
Yes, it was absolutely retarded to go down there and get in LEO's face while CCW - doesn't justify a mag dump.
No, he didn't brandish the weapon. I don't give a fuck who says it. Watch the video. Just because he was doing 2A with some extra ammo on him doesn't automatically become a defacto excuse to mag dump him.

The dude that mag dumped him was wrong for doing so. You can say that without betraying your... whatever?

That being said, it was chaotic and we're all basking in the luxury of time and video replay to cast judgement, something the guy who shot him didn't have. On top of that, you gotta be a fucking window licking retard to put yourself in the position that Petti did and it cost him his life. But his life was taken by mistake.

I now will wait for my 20 replies of people saying I voted for biden, am a libtard, a faggot, a pedo, and all the usual slew of other insults dumped when someone posts counter to the administration's non stop shilling current here.

 

[The Ugly One]

None of you are right-wing.

True right-wing politics is about abolishing the police and living together in a free love commune!