2026 Minneapolis ICE riots - Suicidal Empathy and its consequences

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I don't get why kiwi farmers sperg out when a leftist gets killed.

These people would want you dead if they found out you posted on the evil far right doxing site.
Because if they where to go to red reddit where they belong then they couldnt say words such as nigger or faggot :sad: they need to parasitize the chud website to have freedom ev&doe they love the policies that almost destroyed it the first time.
 
So you were against Kyle Rittenhouse having a firearm to protect himself as well? Or is that OK strictly because he wasn't antagonistic to cops?
Two things can be true at once. Kyle Rittenhouse had a right to bring that firearm to protect himself, but it also is what attracted attention to him and led to the need for self-defense. The person who wanted to take his gun was completely in the wrong, of course.

You have the freedom to make choices that put you in danger, but there's nothing wrong with acknowledging that some actions in some places might have a disproportionate risk.

The dead guy was (probably) legally allowed to have that gun with him. I don't think he was planning to go on a shooting spree or he wouldn't have gotten up into their personal space for the normal protesting behavior. I think he would have just started with a plan to go out in a hail of bullets.

However, the choice to have a gun in your waistband when you want to go out and de-arrest people ICE are taking into custody when you already think they are trigger happy and poorly trained is a risky choice. Like wanting to pet a random stray cat. Might be okay, might have rabies, but your freedom to make your choice shouldn't be compromised.

This was still likely a bad use of force. It seems more likely to be a mistake because everyone is on edge, but LEO of all types basically get to treat oopsie killings like a forgivable job error, especially if it was just a white guy.
 
Me stopping the slow erosion of white America by making it clear to everyone that immigration enforcement agents will kill US citizens. Surely nothing bad can come from this

I get the argument you’re making. I think there is a fundamental disconnect. These people are at best, traitors to our country, or more probably, demons. Every time this crap goes down, the domestic terrorist in question is a shit human that we’re better off without anyway. They have been openly calling for our deaths and destroying this country, publicly and brazenly, for 10+ years. They wouldn’t hesitate to kill you if someone gave them a free pass. These are not fellow Americans, these are enemies that have been chanting for our death for over a decade.

Let’s revisit this discussion after these terrorists are neutralized.
 
I don't get why kiwi farmers sperg out when a leftist gets killed.

These people would want you dead if they found out you posted on the evil far right doxing site.
My primary concern is the use of the State in the death. I think the protester is an idiot, but if he was shot because an untrained ICE agent accidentally discharged his own gun, I’d view the ICE agent as the more dangerous threat.

And we will never know what really happened because the administration will never disparage ICE and leftists tampered with the crime scene. Fuck them both.
 
If these leftists want to LARP as revolutionaries and truly believe ICE is evil. that's fine. They might want to crack open a history book and read about all the revolutionaries who die for the cause in the process. They literally cannot fathom consequences at all. They expect their opposition who in their eyes, are literal authoritarian jack-booted thugs to just lay down and take it up the ass.
 
My primary concern is the use of the State in the death. I think the protester is an idiot, but if he was shot because an untrained ICE agent accidentally discharged his own gun, I’d view the ICE agent as the more dangerous threat.

And we will never know what really happened because the administration will never disparage ICE and leftists tampered with the crime scene. Fuck them both.
The big thing with MN right now is that they are actually doing state sponsored terrorism. I mean this genuinely, the Church thing and the magistrate judge not serving lemon is part of it, but more State wide the DA knew what was happening.

Ellison knew and got interviewed outside the church after it happened. I do think more shit is going in than MN just letting crackheads dose their kids with cocaine.
 
You have the freedom to make choices that put you in danger, but there's nothing wrong with acknowledging that some actions in some places might have a disproportionate risk.
Agreed fully.
This was still likely a bad use of force. It seems more likely to be a mistake because everyone is on edge, but LEO of all types basically get to treat oopsie killings like a forgivable job error, especially if it was just a white guy.
Here's my issue. Police officers, federal or not, god bless them put their lives on the line every day. I respect them fully for that. BUT, they also have the only pass to use lethal force in the name of the United States. If they make a bad use of this force, then it creates all sorts of problems. And I personally believe that the less this happens, the better. In this case, look at any video, they could clearly de-escalate, they didn't, and a US citizen (tankie, antifa, whatever) died. And now the pushback will be 100x worse, making everyone's lives and safety worse. Some will call me "cucked" for fearing more pushback. I just want less Americans to die, and if being called "cucked" is what makes me that, so be it.

Let’s revisit this discussion after these terrorists are neutralized.
Look, even accepting your framing fully that those people are demons etc, can we revisit this discussion when the person is identified and we find out if he's a demon as you put it or not?
 
Again from the videos I've seen it doesn't look like he was in any way threatening. Arrest him? Sure. But then it's clearly shown that he's disarmed too, and the current cope is "he might have had a second gun!". But realistically, this looks to be more like an execution than anything else. It doesn't really matter for this thread because nobody will change their mind, but if you can't see the obvious momentum against ICE after handling the situation so horribly for so long, then I don't know what else I have to say.
Clearly shown to anyone who's had time to scour over a recording of the event from the safety and comfort of their sofa, sure, but to the agents there this guy who was just obstructing their work, refused to cooperate and then resisted arrest it wasn't clear, especially considering he was disarmed just a moment before the first shot happens. Without a clearer view of the situation or bodycam footage it's hard to tell what caused the shot specifically, either the guy reaching for a weapon or something else happening. I don't want to defend poor handling of the situation but these events seem like an inevitability when protestors continue to antagonize, interfere with, physically assault and wish for the death of ICE agents. Should it have been handled better? Absolutely. Did he deserve to die? Probably not, even if he was an idiot. Did he dig his own grave by obstructing federal agents while armed in a dangerous situation he was actively making worse? I'd say so.

It's hard to see these protestors as being any different from how niggers act in police bodycam recordings (not just because they're obstructing justice getting served to criminals) and every new happening helps solidifies that view in my mind.
 
because an untrained ICE agent
Per Bovino the agent is an 8 year veteran and also a range officer which I think means firing range instructor

Pure retardation narrative invention that ICE and CBP are sending new recruits out on these operations. ICE and CBP prior to 2025 had about a combined 75,000 agents. They are sending veterans to do bulbhead roundups and communist crowd control. In these extremely hostile and chaotic environments sending newbs would endanger their own people when they have thousands and thousands of veterans available
 
When people say something it's generally wise to believe them.
much like pedophilia admits, when someone says they want to kill me, they believe i should be dead, etc, i take that very seriously, and it seems others do too. it's good and uplifting to see that the vast majority of the thread isn't falling for bullshit tactics to trick you into thinking you should let anarcho-tyrannists murder you.

My primary concern is the use of the State in the death. I think the protester is an idiot, but if he was shot because an untrained ICE agent accidentally discharged his own gun, I’d view the ICE agent as the more dangerous threat.

And we will never know what really happened because the administration will never disparage ICE and leftists tampered with the crime scene. Fuck them both.
it really comes down to the fact that he had absolutely no business getting into a fistfight with ICE in the first place. much like with renee good, there is absolutely no good reason for him to have A. Attempted to stop the Arrests. B. Physically assaulted ICE. C. Begin to resist arrest while knowing he had a loaded firearm that is legendary in the gun world for going off without even touching it. D. bring the firearm to his attempts to free ICE detainees.

this is why i do not feel bad for him, or worry that this is a bad shoot, or an overstep of ICE boundaries.

i don't understand how it is hard for people to comprehend that when you bring a gun to an altercation, you have added the potential that someone might be shot. you don't even have any evidence that the ICE agent did anything wrong, and are already jumping to a conclusion that we won't know what really happened as if we can't look at the video and see that it was someone getting physical with the cops, resisting arrest, and either going for or holding a firearm while doing it. a firearm, probably that one, went off during the struggle, and that got him killed.

that isn't a bad shoot, that's exactly how police are taught. you do not wait for the suspect to get his gun out and ventilate your fellow officers. you treat the safety of everyone around you as the top priority, which they did. not a single person but the man who brought a gun to get into fights with ICE with got hurt.
 
My primary concern is the use of the State in the death. I think the protester is an idiot, but if he was shot because an untrained ICE agent accidentally discharged his own gun, I’d view the ICE agent as the more dangerous threat.
Where are you retards getting this untrained ICE agents narrative I swear you are all retarded. The guy who shot that lesbian bitch had something like 8 years in and was in the military. The guy who wasted retard Rambo was a firearms instructor and had 4 years in.
 
My primary concern is the use of the State in the death. I think the protester is an idiot, but if he was shot because an untrained ICE agent accidentally discharged his own gun, I’d view the ICE agent as the more dangerous threat.

And we will never know what really happened because the administration will never disparage ICE and leftists tampered with the crime scene. Fuck them both.

A state's primary duty is to defend its borders and citizens from foreign threats. A state that refuses to do so is illegitimate and doesn't deserve to exist. An American who collaborates with said foreign invaders to the point of engaging in physical confrontations with our government agents is a threat that must be eliminated.
 
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