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The real problem is US (and English common law generally) don't have good ways of prosecuting groups for group crimes. We generally attribute crime to the individual, and in fact there are laws against collective punishment, even in international law and the Geneva Conventions.

So if a group of 20 idiots impede a police operation, we can't round up all 20 and charge them with 1 crime. We have to say that 1 was attacking a cop, and 1 was standing in front of the car, and 2 were resisting arrest, and 3 were flailing around yelling and getting in the way, and the other 13 stood on the sidewalk or let someone who was fleeing hide behind them, etc. Of those 20 only the attack and resisting are specific crimes, the other 17 can get off the hook by saying they were just standing around or shouting protected speech.

Everyone knows the entire crowd of 20 assholes were coordinating and working together to make the cops' job impossible, but you can't prove it to the legal standard. Even if you tried one of the few conspiracy statutes on the books, you would have to prove specific things like "Jane wrote in an email that she would provide cover for anyone attacking cops and fleeing, then she did exactly that on the day of the protest. It only looks like she's innocently standing with a sign."

I know a lot else happened since then, but I continue to be disappointed nobody passed laws to hold organized groups liable for street actions. Everyone knows about affinity groups and coordination, nobody managed to get a legal tool to fight them.
It’s in the works, they are looking at RICO cases against protest NGOs, but that shit takes a while to put together.

On the plus side, every event like the Good shooting that shows more of the connection and organization of these protestors makes the net pull tighter for the takedown.
 
FULL INTERACTION: During a protest outside a home being raided ICE in Minneapolis, a woman drove onto the blocked street. ICE agents broke the vehicle’s window and arrested her. The woman claimed she was trying to reach a doctor’s appointment
That was some aggressive pointing. Those officers were angry as fuck.
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Unfortunately for them, the camera man does an excellent job showing that she could've kept going and decided not to.

Kudos to the "resistance" just filming with their phones and giving excellent advice such as "GO GO GO" when the agents decide to arrest her, completely forgetting it's what got somebody shot days before.
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And her big reward? Broken windows, being manhandled and arrested. Meanwhile, the "legal observers" just blow their whistles harder. Thank you for your sacrifice, comrade!

Bonus points for using the "I'M DISABLED" card. Unfortunately, it had no effect.
 
FULL INTERACTION: During a protest outside a home being raided ICE in Minneapolis, a woman drove onto the blocked street. ICE agents broke the vehicle’s window and arrested her. The woman claimed she was trying to reach a doctor’s appointment

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Funny, when I need to go to an appointment and I see the road blocked by law enforcement, my first instinct is to turn around and go a different way, not to try plowing through it.

And again , the faggot whistles do literally nothing but make them look even stupider than they already do.

I really wish the Iran treatment was happening to every one of them, they aren’t a net positive to this country
 
The answer to the first part is just Yes. Why? Probably because Minnesota had the largest population of Swedish immigrants who as we know love to get raped by third-worlders.
Right? Literally go find any male Minnesotan with the last name "Gustafson" or something like that and ask him what he thinks. I don't care what age he is, he'll give you a vox pop interview to enjoy. You might even get an "uff da" out of him.
 
That was some aggressive pointing. Those officers were angry as fuck.
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Unfortunately for them, the camera man does an excellent job showing that she could've kept going and decided not to.

Kudos to the "resistance" just filming with their phones and giving excellent advice such as "GO GO GO" when the agents decide to arrest her, completely forgetting it's what got somebody shot days before.
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And this is her big reward; getting arrested, her car windows broken and being manhandled as the soyboys outside blow their whistles.

Bonus points for using the "I'M DISABLED" card. Unfortunately, it had no effect.
Mental disability is for the courts to sort out once they throw her ass in a cell at the station.
 
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FULL INTERACTION: During a protest outside a home being raided ICE in Minneapolis, a woman drove onto the blocked street. ICE agents broke the vehicle’s window and arrested her. The woman claimed she was trying to reach a doctor’s appointment

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Oh, look, it's yet another example of the people protesting ICE by blocking streets, picking fights, and making tons of noise, none of which actually prevents ICE operations in the first place, being the cause of "chaos" as opposed to ICE itself. Also, "I'm autistic and disabled so you can't arrest me". Okay, retard, then you need your license taken away.
 
Just think of all the honey pot operations that happen and no one knows about them.
You gotta figure ... if they don't want to rapidly burn through all of their "operatives," they've got to be putting out at least sometimes to reduce suspicion. That and it's hard to keep fags from fucking every available hole to begin with (and as we've seen, there don't seem to be a lot of straight people within the inner workings of the deep state and/or DNC apparatus).
 
FULL INTERACTION: During a protest outside a home being raided ICE in Minneapolis, a woman drove onto the blocked street. ICE agents broke the vehicle’s window and arrested her. The woman claimed she was trying to reach a doctor’s appointment
Her face when ICE arrested her and she realized there are consequences for her actions was hilarious.
 
It was almost a threat to Wall Street.

What happened is a bunch of white guys showed up and started to put forward actual plans. Then white women and brown people shouted down the white guys as racist, sexist, patriarchal, and so on until white guys left. They called this the progressive stack, which turned the entire protest into retards bitching about identity politics 24/7. Police also dumped homeless people at Zuccotti Park, which the white women treated like retarded bunnies even though they were violent drug addicts. Brown men didn't give a shit about the white women, who were raped by the homeless people.

Then corporate entities started commercializing it and all the retards ate it up.
So white women were always this retarded?
 
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