2025 US and Venezuela Conflict - Operation Just Cause 2: 2 Just 2 Cause

This type of power can wack Russia over the head without firing a shot. China needs oil to fuel its Taiwan ambitions so this puts a damper on that too until they can figure out next steps.
Russia is fucked at this point. China is TURBO FUCKED. We now control the price of gas, and we can crash that bitch with no survivors
 
The government isn't made of one guy. Multiple things can be happening in the background. The people doing the financial audits probably aren't the same ones doing the surgical strike. A military victory is being celebrated because the military completed a nearly flawless smash and grab. Your point seems like a bit of a non-sequitur, unless you're suggesting we ought to use air strikes for domestic policy resolution.

No, it isn't made up of one guy - but the main guys who make the decisions are going to now be dealing with lolfare from every Dem appointed judge and congresscritter in the country and battling it on several fronts. People can rate MATI all they want but I feel its better to secure the homeland before looking at conquest abroad. Taking Maduro out will definitely harm our enemies abroad, but in the end what good does that do when the enemies at home are free to act? Guess we'll find out if it works.

Plane with Maduro and his wife took off from Gitmo an hour ago heading for NYC. He should be in the Brooklyn federal detention center in a couple hours
Wonder if they'll get him into a supermax before some Biden or Obama appointed judge orders orange man to free him.
 
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Wonder if they'll get him into a supermax before some Biden or Obama appointed judge orders orange man to free him.
Maduro's been facing federal drug charges for over five years at this point so if they do something as retarded as that Trump will have a mandate to remove every retarded female judge.
 
I'll throw my two cents into the ring.

I've been mulling this over a bit. I think a lot of people are misinterpreting the true purpose of this operation. It's not (just) about the oil - we have plenty of oil already and gas prices are the lowest they have been in a while. It's not (just) about the drugs - we've been killcamming drug boats for months at this point and the border is sealed shut. It's not (just) about the migrants - we've been deporting them, even if the pace is a bit too slow for people's liking. It's not even about the idea of kicking BRICS out of America's hemisphere. All of these are happy bonuses, sure, but in my view, the number one objective of this operation is power projection and re-establishment of deterrence, plain and simple. Trump said himself (I think, I already forgot - someone said that, at least) that "Maduro was the objective, but not the message". In geopolitical arenas that actually matter, the "speak softly" approach isn't working right now for us. Russia is still fighting Ukraine. China is still making moves in the Pacific. Europe still doesn't take us or our values very seriously. Even the Iranians are rebuilding their missile stockpiles and preparing for round 2 against our Greatest Ally(tm).

If speaking softly doesn't work, its time to use the big stick. This is the primary purpose of capturing Maduro, to showcase that America is no longer fucking around. Trump has brought the DonMonroe Doctrine back into the public discourse. That tells you everything you need to know. The American Hemisphere will become American again. Trump floated military action against three more Latin American countries in his press conference. The message is obvious: get in line or get shafted by the full power of the United States Military.

But here's the problem. 20 years in the sandbox for what was basically nothing has made the American people fatigued of endless war. "Boots on the ground" is the phrase nobody but the Uniparty wants to hear. Doing that would probably sink Trump's term dead in the water. How do you establish dominance in big stick diplomacy without boots on the ground? The answer is through stuff like what we saw just now. Shock and awe bombing, lightning-fast narrow-scope operations, then hoping that the adversary isn't suicidal enough to draw us into a prolonged conflict with them (see: Iran). It's an inherit gamble. This is Trump's biggest one (so far) of his current term, in my view. It could do the trick, or it could send the whole hemisphere into bloody chaos.

We will see how the gamble plays out over the coming days and weeks. Because we're unwilling to deploy troops to Venezuela and do direct administration right now (otherwise we would've just done it), the decision on whether Venezuela will follow our demands or drag us into yet another quagmire is entirely up to them. Maybe backroom deals are in motion, I don't know. They've just sworn in their Vice President. Of course they will scream rhetoric, but rhetoric doesn't matter. What matters is what they do. Hopefully they step down from power, listen to us, let us just take their oil and let capitalist economics turn them into an actual functioning country again. Nobody else has to die. But if they don't, or the situation heavily destabilizes (civil war, insurgency), then we'll have to do more strikes and inevitably get ourselves involved in yet another shitshow that could destabilize the whole continent and lead to Americans coming home in boxes again. That's the big gamble.

Let's pray it goes our way.

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It's easier to settle on a nation that shares the language, climate and culture

It's not all about money, plenty of nutcases manage to get to the US from south american countries with a few bucks
do you have any idea what the venezuelan-colombian border looks like lol. it's godawful 95F 99% humidity barely any roads barely any utilities even in the towns helljungle

aint nobody settling there if they have a choice
 
If you are wondering, why you haven't seen videos inside of Venezuela of people celebrating is because of this.

Colectivos (Paramilitary forces composed of mostly criminals) patrolling the streets.


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This is how it actually went.
 
I'm not sure a decapitation strike would even work on Ukraine, you'd just have a smooth transition to one of the generals who'd run the country, as Ukraine had no real opposition.
Budanov (their chief of military intelligence) was just transferred to the head of office for president of Ukraine. Pretty obvious, that he's the heir apparent. Very popular in Ukraine.
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Similar plan could've worked to a lesser extent in the immediate start of the full scale invasion, which is why Russia tried to do it (only to fail miserably). There would've still been resistance in Ukraine, but they would not have been able to organize such a defence if their leadership was decapitated. Trying to do a similar thing now, doesn't have the same effect. You can take out Zelenskyi, but there would be other people replacing him and nothing would really change.
 
do you have any idea what the venezuelan-colombian border looks like lol.
As a matter of fact i do
aint nobody settling there if they have a choice
That's why i said that most of them go to Brazil, Chile, Uruguai and Paraguai. I never said anything about fucking Colombia.. And i really don't care if some venezuelan mook went to fucking Colombia in the first place

My friend why are we even sperging about this again?
 
You are a lolcow on the level of Chris-chan. Completely delusional about how you come across.
You take everything so fucking seriously, and constantly have the worst takes about a country with a orange man that you don't even live with. You live in Europe and think that makes you better, when you're not. Take a fucking Xanex.
 
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