Debate the merits of Looksmaxxing here

[AMHOLIO]

Because several users came to the defense of looksmaxxing in the Clavicular thread.

Debate whether men should do their best to look pretty to succeed in both dating and life, how much effort they need to put in, and whether hitting yourself in the face with a hammer is too far. Include how much personality and talent is relevant to the entire success thing if you want. For bonus points, specify which countries or cultures it is most relevant in from your perspective.

Please make your own thread about how blackpilled you are about dating, like "IS WESTERN DATING COOKED???", because I REALLY don't want notifications for that. It will turn into a doomposting circlejerk and I'm sure several non-western people will claim it totally is, trust me, no I will not say what country I'm from.

 

[Squanto Airi]

Looksmaxxers have this plastic look to them (fake) and judge the appearance of other men (gay).

 

[Kujo Jotaro]

Seems like a lot of effort and mental stress for very little return. Hyper focusing on image is unhealthy.

 

[Preacher ✝]

Looksmaxxing faggotry is the male equivalent of excessive make-up and fake hair on women, it's like one step removed from plastic surgery.

Instead of allowing yourself to be consumed with attaining and maintaining an unrealistic aesthetic standard, invest that effort into being content with yourself as God made you. People who are comfortable in their own skin can punch above their weight class against people who are obsessed with vanity.

 

[AMHOLIO]

If you want to increase you looks, at least lift without steroids for a while. Don't shrink your fertility yet. Hell, if you're worried that T is your problem, actually go to a hormones doctor to see if you're ok. That can actually help keep you healthy, a big part of looks.

Get some consultation on a good hairstyle, get a nice skin regiment (like the general washing your face with soap made for facial skin then using a moisturizer that complements your skin type), and dress appropriately for the occassion. That's the most I think you should do to looksmax.

If you are absolutely fucking disfigured, like you have a cleft nose, that's some acceptable surgery. If it isn't a condition like that, go to a psychologist first. "Hotwheels" (8 chan founder) found a chick and he's quadruple disabled.

Lastly, if you focus all on looks, you failed yourself because it's like investing everything into your arms: the rest of you looks scrawny in comparison. I can't tell you how to develop yourself personally since there are tons of ways to do it. Clubs, outdoor hobbies, talking to other members of society and asking their advice, working on a skill like cooking or home repairs, playing team sports (outdoor or indoor like ping pong), psychology and therapy if you have some actual hangups (like obsessive compulsive thinking, trust issues, anger issues, autistic traits you want to cope with better), getting a job you hate less. All those will help you. No, it isn't easy. If it was, everyone would be doing it. It's a long road and a constant struggle, but life always is. Make peace with that and move on.

Edit: Oh, you will be cooked if you have one of these character flaws: making others miserable to enjoy their misery/make yourself feel better, always having to be right - others can't see how correct your opinion is, not doing anything for others ever unless you get something in return, self absorption, callousness, and hatred of animals.

 

[JULAY]

That shit is for fags. Don't be fat, dress like an adult, and curb your autism enough to be someone people want to be around.

Clubs, outdoor hobbies, talking to other members of society and asking their advice, working on a skill like cooking or home repairs, playing team sports (outdoor or indoor like ping pong), psychology and therapy if you have some actual hangups (like obsessive compulsive thinking, trust issues, anger issues, autistic traits you want to cope with better), getting a job you hate less. All those will help you. No, it isn't easy. If it was, everyone would be doing it. It's a long road and a constant struggle, but life always is. Make peace with that and move on.

This is good advice. The incel crowd seems to think that most women are as obsessed with looks as they themselves are.

Newsflash: they aren't.

 

[SchizoSpartan76]

Looksmaxxing faggotry is the male equivalent of excessive make-up and fake hair on women, it's like one step removed from plastic surgery.

Instead of allowing yourself to be consumed with attaining and maintaining an unrealistic aesthetic standard, invest that effort into being content with yourself as God made you. People who are comfortable in their own skin can punch above their weight class against people who are obsessed with vanity.

Tbf the best you should do is to make sure you aren't fat or look like Boogie, Wings, and or Tipster but that's a eays practice through consistent exercise looks making is gay and Viscluar said he's infertile so God already cursed him for this faggotry

 

[AMHOLIO]

This is good advice. The incel crowd seems to think that most women are as obsessed with looks as they themselves are.

Newsflash: they aren't.

Thanks. I think at that point in looks obsession, you might as well go gay/come out as gay. You can make a bunch of edgy post on not being a SISSY GAY but a MANLY BUTTFUCKING MANLY MAN GAY but making peace with it and getting it over with is better for your ego in the long run. Those who are pseudo gay can at least be temporarily satiated by getting the attention they desire for whatever reason from other men for a while.

...or just go to a male therapist/psychologist to dismantle the male version of this.

 

[Montalbane]

Looksmaxxxers do meth.
Thats all I need to know about them.

 

[Kujo Jotaro]

and curb your autism enough to be someone people want to be around.

Literally impossible, guess I better start mewing.

Spoiler: Guys, am I doing this right?

 

[Inco G. Nito]

Debate whether men should do their best to look pretty to succeed in both dating and life

I didn't realize being presentable was a social statement now.

 

[Kujo Jotaro]

I didn't realize being presentable was a social statement now.

To be fair, that's not what looksmaxxing is. Looksmaxxing is about pushing your body to its asthetic limits, and appearing as beautiful as possible; it goes way beyond just looking presentable.

 

[Inco G. Nito]

To be fair, that's not what looksmaxxing is. Looksmaxxing is about pushing your body to its asthetic limits, and appearing as beautiful as possible; it goes way beyond just looking presentable.

You say that as though these pituitary fucking retards would have any motivation to be presentable otherwise.

 

[Fireman Sam]

I don't quite understand Looksmaxxing. I'm already quite handsome and I fail to see how smashing a hammer against my jaw for hours at a time and taking steroids will improve my already quite charming appearance. I'll pass, thanks :^)

Looksmaxxing is perhaps seen as the ultimate expression of Narcissism, to "mog" on the ops is an unattainable nirvanna to the average normie...
But let's be real. It's just the male version of teenage girls being constantly paranoid over their appearance to the point of self destructive behaviour... It's self insecurity manifest.
But somehow this feels more derranged regarding the influence of "social media". It has an air of immense faggotry about it that I can't quite wrap my head around.

I reckon most boys will grow out of it when they mature and realize that there's more to life than stressing about the validation of a schizophrenic idea of what a woman wants, and I think that most will come to realize that only a regressed retard faggot baby would attempt to look like the heckin chad meme by bogging oneself with plastic surgery and taking copius amounts of drugs.

Women really don't care as much about your appearance as a looksmaxer thinks they do. It is reasonable for women to not want you to be a fat retard or a whiny faggot with no ability to provide or protect. These are things that anyone with a healthy mind can reasonably accomplish, and there's truly much more to be said about your personality, life experiences and ability to make a woman laugh that will warm them up to you than any incel will want to believe.

Though I think honestly people who are so far in the looksmaxxing/incel rabbit holes probably should focus inwards and fix their issues as that is a far more pressing matter than wasting your years trying in vain to "ascend" if you're just a personality void and/or mentally unwell. I quite like Null's little theory on why incels *choose* to be incels. You cannot take back the years you have wasted in self pity. But I feel it isn't too late for a lot of these young men to grow out of it. Being miserable is a choice and you choose a lot of the circumstances that keep you miserable.

Masculinity became such a taboo that this sort of shit has become a bizarre counter culture. Lost boys with no understanding on what it means to be a man instead hold up a twisted ideal, it comes across as derranged and alien to normies, which serves the incel no favors in breaking out of that mindset or knowing where to even begin in a world that has taught them nothing about being a man and in some cases shits on them for it.

Tough shit. Your boomer grandparents were right, life isn't fair and you need to pull yourself up by your bootstraps. Just don't complain about the state of the economy to them and maybe, just maybe they can impart a bit of advice... It'd be a grand deal better than looking up to faggots online as a surrogate father.

And if there happens to be anyone reading this who actually thinks looksmaxxing is based, I ask that you consider the following...

Twink death will also come for the likes of Clavicular and when it does, will he have any social skill and personality to tide him through? No. He'll probably just kill himself like the desperate whore that he is. No sane man will want to follow that fate. It's not too late to grow back your balls and live life.

 

[Otis Mallebrok]

At least shower and work out to stay healthy.

In general I think women needs to love themselves a bit more, and we men need love ourselves a bit less. Then we can meat in the middle.

 

[Skitarii]

we men

Okay @Justa Grata Honoria sock #359

 

[Dojima's Dragon]

Literally just go to the gym ( without roids ofc because that shit fucks your body up) shower daily, have a good hairstyle and a stable job. And girls will come to you in time for yum yum. But unfortunately both incels think this makes you a pussy controlled cuck and femcels with serious pussy bad syndrome think that apparently these kinds of men are worse than pigs. You shouldn't listen to them. They're sad people that need a good friend to help them at best and miserable borderline evil assholes at worst. I know you fucking retards can score.

 

[DefinitelyNotMe]

I always had the opinion that if a guy spends too much time on something beauty related outside basic staff that he is a raging homosexual and a narcissist.
and by basic stuff i mean hygiene, shaving and staff
if you have nails done? FAG! Have makeup on? FAG! Have an unnecessary plastic facial surgery? MEGA FAG!

 

[Dagoth AMOGUS]

As others have said, if you cut through to the heart of the matter, this sounds like Instagram behavior for men instead of women.

 

[BinaricHate]

Literally just go to the gym ( without roids ofc because that shit fucks your body up) shower daily, have a good hairystyle and a stable job. And girls will come to you in time for yum yum. But unfortunately both incels think this makes you a pussy controlled cuck and femcels with serious pussy bad syndrome think that apparently these kinds of men are worse than pigs. You shouldn't listen to them. They're sad people that need a good friend to help them at best and miserable borderline evil assholes at worst. I know you fucking retards can score.

>just gymmaxx bro
brutal

I always had the opinion that if a guy spends too much time on something beauty related outside basic staff that he is a raging homosexual and a narcissist.
and by basic stuff i mean hygiene, shaving and staff
if you have nails done? FAG! Have makeup on? FAG! Have an unnecessary plastic facial surgery? MEGA FAG!

>just beemaxx bro
brutal

At least shower and work out to stay healthy.

In general I think women needs to love themselves a bit more, and we men need love ourselves a bit less. Then we can meat in the middle.

>yeah bro just gymmaxx and troonmaxx that'll help out with the sub5 recessed jawline + canthal tilt + ND situation bro trust me
brutal

This is good advice. The incel crowd seems to think that most women are as obsessed with looks as they themselves are.

>just bluepillmaxx bro
brutal

Newsflash: they aren't.

>yeah i know what women want trust me bro just beemax and also finmaxx
brutal

I jest, if you want to truly convince a looksmaxer that looksmaxxing is retarded. You wouldn't hit them with the same set of responses (the ones I've outlined) that they've been told already countless of times.

How about... pointing out the fact that looksmaxxing is incredibly popular in india thanks to the caste system? That's pretty embarrassing. To have your whole movement linked with india? Lol. Lmao. Get a load of this retard everybody! HE'S A JEET! HE'S BROWN! HE'S A LOW CASTE SAAR WHO THINKS GETTING PLASTIC SURGERY WILL ELEVATE HIM TO HIGH CASTE BRAHMIN STATUS! WOAAAAHH BUDDYYY!!!

How about the fact that looksmaxxers are partially to blame for the troon epidemic in nerd communities? Wow, brown AND gay? That's pretty embarrassing if you ask me...