Greer v. Moon, No. 20-cv-00647 (D. Utah Sep. 16, 2020)

[AnOminous]

Most of those items are probably the equivalent of playing hangman on the last day of school though.

"Darrious Amour Lee Houston." Holy shit. Why didn't his parents just name him Nignog Prisoner#314 McCoonface?

 

[3MMA]

Greer v. Hardin

Can Greee be held accountable for lying off his ass in his PPO application? He claims that “Hardin’s conduct did not occur with lawful authority nor through court filings,” & particularly the part where he claims, “the respondent escalated non-litigation conduct,” as if there was no litigation at all. Greee is framing his PPO as if Hardin was doing “all of this” of his own accord & not connected to a court case. The lies of Greee are so egregious that I wonder if he aught to face censure for his blatant attempt to twist the truth here. It’s even further backed up by his venue shopping. I know the score here, it’s easy to see that Greee is lying to frame things as illegal that are absolutely not illegal, which is why his PPO application was denied. Hardin did not do any of the things Gree claimed. If I was Null, I’d be getting annoyed if the judges are waiting on Cox v Sony.

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ETA:
Below Greer claims he was in Winnemucca on an unrelated case, after he filed that he had an emergency with the court hearing his case against Null, just to be in Winnemucca at the same time he was scheduled, (months in advance) to a hearing in his case against Null. If anything, Greer made the relation or connection related himself, -by lying about some emergency to try & bully his way into owning land for a whorehouse in front of the Winnemucca city council. Greer connected these things himself.

 

[Thomas Talus]

That would be the best motion by Mr. Hardin ever.
"As part of pre-trial preparations we request full sneeze/drool guards in front of the judge, jury box and defendant's table."

At least designate a "Splash Zone."

 

[RodgerDodger]

Can Greee be held accountable for lying off his ass in his PPO application? He claims that “Hardin’s conduct did not occur with lawful authority nor through court filings,” & particularly the part where he claims, “the respondent escalated non-litigation conduct,” as if there was no litigation at all. Greee is framing his PPO as if Hardin was doing “all of this” of his own accord & not connected to a court case. The lies of Greee are so egregious that I wonder if he aught to face censure for his blatant attempt to twist the truth here. It’s even further backed up by his venue shopping. I know the score here, it’s easy to see that Greee is lying to frame things as illegal that are absolutely not illegal, which is why his PPO application was denied. Hardin did not do any of the things Gree claimed. If I was Null, I’d be getting annoyed if the judges are waiting on Cox v Sony.

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Below Greer claims he was in Winnemucca on an unrelated case, after he filed that he had an emergency with the court hearing his case against Null, just to be in Winnemucca at the same time he was scheduled, (months in advance) to a hearing in his case against Null. If anything, Greer made the relation or connection related himself, -by lying about some emergency to try & bully his way into owning land for a whorehouse in front of the Winnemucca city council. Greer connected these things himself.
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That raises an interesting question. Can a Court issue sanctions for actions taken in or directed towards another court?

I mean this was very clearly an incident of fraud attempting to do an end run around Barlows Court and its jurisdiction. That seems like something that would be due a painful judicial curbstomping.

 

[HTTP Error 404]

I wonder if the Judge is going to have to explain to the Greetard that he doesn't get to tell opposing counsel they can't do something and expect it to be binding

That Greeetard has no input at all on the defense's strategy or actions other than, perhaps, complaining to the judge and waiting for the JUDGE to decide things

That the other side gets to call witnesses, and question people Greeeee brings up, even if Greeeeeee doesn't want them to

That he can't just declare the opposing counsel in violation of the rules and under sanctions or fucking anything

Or that certain things (IFP fraud, his restraining order, his finances, his whorin') are off limits just because he said so like a spoiled kid on recess

That Hardin isn't a neutral third party he's the fucking opposing counsel

... I wonder if the Judge is going to require an in person meeting cause Greetard literally took a business call during his fucking hearing last time.

Can you imagine the Judge talking down to Greetard? Explaining the most basic aspects of trials to him, and demanding him to acknowledge them in person? Or even demand he repeat them back to the court in his own words to confirm he understands? Imagine the judge going "No, that's wrong, try again, idiot."

 

[Uncle Buck]

Can Greee be held accountable for lying off his ass in his PPO application? He claims that “Hardin’s conduct did not occur with lawful authority nor through court filings,” & particularly the part where he claims, “the respondent escalated non-litigation conduct,” as if there was no litigation at all. Greee is framing his PPO as if Hardin was doing “all of this” of his own accord & not connected to a court case. The lies of Greee are so egregious that I wonder if he aught to face censure for his blatant attempt to twist the truth here. It’s even further backed up by his venue shopping. I know the score here, it’s easy to see that Greee is lying to frame things as illegal that are absolutely not illegal, which is why his PPO application was denied. Hardin did not do any of the things Gree claimed. If I was Null, I’d be getting annoyed if the judges are waiting on Cox v Sony.

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Below Greer claims he was in Winnemucca on an unrelated case, after he filed that he had an emergency with the court hearing his case against Null, just to be in Winnemucca at the same time he was scheduled, (months in advance) to a hearing in his case against Null. If anything, Greer made the relation or connection related himself, -by lying about some emergency to try & bully his way into owning land for a whorehouse in front of the Winnemucca city council. Greer connected these things himself.
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"This conduct caused distress and concern that the respondent was monitoring my movements..."

Says the guy who sent unsolicited comments to Natalie Banks on multiple occasions telling her he knew where she was - and who balked at the idea that she could have found that creepy.

 

[CEO of Gay]

Can Greee be held accountable for lying off his ass in his PPO application?

That raises an interesting question. Can a Court issue sanctions for actions taken in or directed towards another court?

I mean this was very clearly an incident of fraud attempting to do an end run around Barlows Court and its jurisdiction. That seems like something that would be due a painful judicial curbstomping.

I don't know if a federal court in Utah can order a prosecutor in Nevada to pursue perjury charges against Greee for all the lies in the PPO application, but it would be very funny if the federal court advised the Nevada prosecutors they had an easy case if they wanted to pursue it.

 

[Harvey Danger]

I don't know if a federal court in Utah can order a prosecutor in Nevada to pursue perjury charges against Greee for all the lies in the PPO application, but it would be very funny if the federal court advised the Nevada prosecutors they had an easy case if they wanted to pursue it.

I don't think anything he put in the PO application rises to the level of perjury. He listed events and gave wildly paranoid interpretations of them. He never said something provably false like "Hardin physically threatened my friend", he said "Hardin CC'ed my friend and made me feel afraid".

Greer's stupidity largely comes from interpreting things how he wants and refusing to believe reality is any different. Being delusional isn't perjury. There might be some gotchas like getting a date wrong or a sequence out of order, but that's not a level of fraud or lying the courts will act on.

 

[Obnoxious Asshole]

"Darrious Amour Lee Houston." Holy shit. Why didn't his parents just name him Nignog Prisoner#314 McCoonface?

It's the new NASA naming scheme. It's the potential father's street name spelled phonetically followed by what the mother ate that morning followed by street name and city. You can't name them "Welfare Enhancement #3" or something normal by civilized standards.

 

[3MMA]

I don't think anything he put in the PO application rises to the level of perjury. He listed events and gave wildly paranoid interpretations of them. He never said something provably false like "Hardin physically threatened my friend", he said "Hardin CC'ed my friend and made me feel afraid".

Greer's stupidity largely comes from interpreting things how he wants and refusing to believe reality is any different. Being delusional isn't perjury. There might be some gotchas like getting a date wrong or a sequence out of order, but that's not a level of fraud or lying the courts will act on.

I think Greer’s lies may rise to the level of provably false. Eventually claiming “I didn’t know it was my fault” isn’t really a defense, is it? Greer repeatedly shoots himself in the foot & subsequently blames Hardin. I’m curious if there will ever be a line drawn, if there is a legal precedent for willfully lying? Can Greee keep framing things with obvious lies that anyone can see are the opposite of what Greer claims, by simply viewing the record on this case? Also, as you said, being delusional isn’t perjury, but after how many times is it willful deception & not perjury? If there’s no precedent, it might be time to create it. I think it’s clear that Greer isn’t just delusional but lying for his own profit.

 

[reptile baht spaniard rid]

He’s moderately smart in that he’s across two courts. He can just claim the other court was lied to. I don’t think the feds can sanction him directly for fuckery on the PO.

Doing the PO itself, maybe.

It would be fun to get him insisting he was misinterpreted in the other court on the record

 

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Gasp! Look what page we're on! Let's hope Greer is too busy to check Kiwi Farms, a website, today. If we're not careful, a new Hitlerplight will be filed.


Bookmarked in the event of a surprise assblasting being required. But seriously, the court calendar does show both of them showing up and ostensibly doing some actual work.
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Most of those items are probably the equivalent of playing hangman on the last day of school though.

morrison, houston are criminal cases (murder) i assume the rest are as well. i can see why this copyright case was left on the back burner.

 

[Harvey Danger]

I think Greer’s lies may rise to the level of provably false. Eventually claiming “I didn’t know it was my fault” isn’t really a defense, is it? Greer repeatedly shoots himself in the foot & subsequently blames Hardin. I’m curious if there will ever be a line drawn, if there is a legal precedent for willfully lying?

There is a line within the context of this lawsuit, his representations, and the way he conducts things. The court has rules that even pro se retards have to follow, and extremely well defined exceptions, thresholds, and criteria for things like "excusable neglect". He's already run up against it twice, causing sanctions, and probably will hit them a few more times before it's done.

But for the PO application, listing events then misinterpreting them doesn't really rise to an objective level of fraud. He'd have to lie about an objective fact, something that provably did not happen. A good portion of the application does ask how the applicant feels, and he's presumed to be telling the truth there. It's a more lax standard than a court running a lawsuit, which doesn't usually care how you feel about an event.

 

[reptile baht spaniard rid]

The courts are extremely lax on TROs because the danger of fucking up and not granting one is way higher than accidentally granting one to a retard nigger.

So they’re basically not going to ever do anything about a TRO that was never granted.

 

[Sexy Senior Citizen]

OK but you gotta wear one of these:
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Safety first!

That's the expression of a man who knows what's coming and can't stop it.

 

[obsdj]

That's the expression of a man who knows what's coming and can't stop it.

If Greer v. Moon comes to trial, it'll be a Gallagher show without the whimsy (or watermelons).

 

[RodgerDodger]

But for the PO application, listing events then misinterpreting them doesn't really rise to an objective level of fraud.

The action of willfully taking those events, which are already matters before the Federal Court awaiting a ruling, and attempting an end run by submitting them to the Local Court in order to compromise the defendants attorney IS an act of fraud. Regardless of whether or not his claims have any basis of truth.

 

[Apteryx Owenii]

There were a lot of incorrect elements of the tro request but much of it is made up of conclusionary statements- which can be explained away with the claimant being a retard. Saying that Harden's communications had nothing to do with the litigation is wrong but Russ has been continually laboring under the concept that only the most direct copyright infringement evidence is allowed to be pursued (unless it's by him, in which case he can bring up ANYTHING bad that has ever been said about KF). So to him, it's arguably not a lie.

practically speaking, perjury is a rare charge and difficult to prove. And the court there probably wants as little to do with Russ as possible.

 

[cromit]

The action of willfully taking those events, which are already matters before the Federal Court awaiting a ruling, and attempting an end run by submitting them to the Local Court in order to compromise the defendants attorney IS an act of fraud. Regardless of whether or not his claims have any basis of truth.

Fraud requires lying, or omitting relevant truth, to someone who relies on your representations to their own detriment. The only representations he made were to a state court that did not rely on them, since they threw out his application. It’s wrong, but it’s not fraud. It’s more like an attempt at tortious interference with attorney-client contract, but fuck if I know what kind of retarded cause of action would arise from this other than “bailiff, PLEASE wake the judge up by whacking Greee’s peepee.”

 

[RodgerDodger]

Fraud requires lying, or omitting relevant truth, to someone who relies on your representations to their own detriment. The only representations he made were to a state court that did not rely on them, since they threw out his application. It’s wrong, but it’s not fraud. It’s more like an attempt at tortious interference with attorney-client contract, but fuck if I know what kind of retarded cause of action would arise from this other than “bailiff, PLEASE wake the judge up by whacking Greee’s peepee.”

It's Contempt of the Federal Court. The Crime or Sanctional act isn't the bullshit that he submitted to the State Court. It's the fact that he submitted it at all given that it was already before a Federal Judge (which he even admitted in his ppo request). And that he was doing it to interfere with the defendants attorney (which he also admitted). At a minimum its filing for fraudulent purpose. But it likely rises to something nastier.