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Should be a wild four years.

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In trump language this basically amounts to "it can sometimes be beneficial to let foreign workers in for niche jobs"
Exactly. How retards interpreted that as infinite visas is anyone's guess. The point was that there should be means to fill in positions needed until there was enough domestic options available. Yes you can train Americans but you will also have to wait for them to be trained and the saying "Time is Money" is a very real concept. It also bears repeating that Trump was never against legal immigration, he's always said that since his first campaign in 2016. This idea that Trump was going to stop any and all immigration never existed, he was against illegal immigration
 
Have fun with Hakeem Jefferies and MTG then. Remember, you get what you fucking deserve.
You do know it's Trump who's splitting the base not MTG.

Trump split the base by completely mishandling the Epstien issue. We need transparency we dont need bullshit. The American people are tired of being lied to about everything. I dont care if it ruins the intelligence community credibility.

We need big reform and trump is squandering this once in a lifetime opportunity.

It's bad leadership when the leader never takes accountability. But it's always somebody elses fault.
MTG is against a core tennent which is deporting illegals, she's not a major part of anything with that position
She's not against deporting illegals, she's against deporting illegals that work jobs Americans dont want to do. Still wrong but Trump himself said something very similar. About agriculture workers.
 
She's not against deporting illegals, she's against deporting illegals that work jobs Americans dont want to do for slave labor wages. Still wrong but Trump himself said something very similar. About agriculture workers.
The idea that Americans don't want to work manual labor jobs pisses me off to no end; we just don't want to do it while getting paid next to nothing. Anyone that spouts this garbage isn't willing to call a spade a spade and deserves nothing but ire for it.
 
Exactly. How retards interpreted that as infinite visas is anyone's guess. The point was that there should be means to fill in positions needed until there was enough domestic options available. Yes you can train Americans but you will also have to wait for them to be trained and the saying "Time is Money" is a very real concept. It also bears repeating that Trump was never against legal immigration, he's always said that since his first campaign in 2016. This idea that Trump was going to stop any and all immigration never existed, he was against illegal immigration
Nativist and anti-immigration populist sentiment contributed to Trump's election victories so even if the man himself says he is solely against illegal immigration that may not go far enough in the eyes of some.

Foreign import fatigue may also be a contributing factor to the situation considering the racial demographic changes in the United States in all the decades since Donald Trump has been alive:
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In what way is MTG a part of that you fucking moron?Vance i get, Tulsi i get. But you overestimate the jewish space laser woman.
Because we dont have many American first lawmakers in general. Must republicans are still lose with dignity, neocon country club, rino types.

Majorie isnt perfect put she's authentic and genuine which more and more is going to crucial to win elections.
 
They'll never get it. They didn't even raise any eyebrows when the media suddenly did a 180° on him and every major right-wing pundit started doing interviews. He's so obviously astro-turfed it's almost insulting, and yet dumb niggers like above are still falling for it anyway.
Blackpillers instantly start dickriding anyone who holds themselves out as "on the right" and hates Trump, no matter how obviously distasteful or how much they had been disliked pre-Trump. It's not a reasoned position, it's pure reflex.
 
Exactly. How retards interpreted that as infinite visas is anyone's guess. The point was that there should be means to fill in positions needed until there was enough domestic options available. Yes you can train Americans but you will also have to wait for them to be trained and the saying "Time is Money" is a very real concept.
That's the idea behind H1Bs in the first place and look how that worked out. Companies are not incentivized help prepare the new crop of American workers expecting higher wages when they can just keep using cheap imports forever. We have no guarantee that this new system won't just get abused like the old one.
 
That's the idea behind H1Bs in the first place and look how that worked out. Companies are not incentivized help prepare the new crop of American workers expecting higher wages when they can just keep using cheap imports forever. We have no guarantee that this new system won't just get abused like the old one.
Alternatively, we can just pass the indian exclusion act, and reclassify feather indians as something else so there's no confusion about dotted street shitters
 
Alternatively, we can just pass the indian exclusion act, and reclassify feather indians as something else so there's no confusion about dotted street shitters
That would be declared racist and against the civil rights act by a judge.
 
That's the idea behind H1Bs in the first place and look how that worked out. Companies are not incentivized help prepare the new crop of American workers expecting higher wages when they can just keep using cheap imports forever. We have no guarantee that this new system won't just get abused like the old one.
I know and I feel adding a 100k price tag to H1B visas was a way to help push companies in the right direction but it's a band-aid at best until there's a proper super majority to pass actual legislation. You can't EO your way to prosperity
 
NICK FUENTES IS A GRASS
HE IS A FED
HE GLOWS
HE IS A RAT
HE HAS NO SCRUPLES
HE IS AN INFORMANT
HE WILL PUT YOUR NAME UP TO THE PIGS TO SAVE HIS OWN SKIN
DON'T YOU FAGGOTS GET IT?
HE HAS NO HONOR
Nick is either a plant one that has been genetically engineered to be as inefficient and brain posioned as possible or he is genuinely stupid and only exists to continue to be tool for those higher than him. He told his followers to vote for Kamala in 24 so he could continue his persecution fetish, genuinely i wanna know nick thought process as to how voting for someone like Kamala would have made any of this better, you’d still have Israel war funding, you would have Ukraine war funding (and possible direct intervention), you’d still have mass illegal immigration and h1bs and gays and fags would still be treated as some sacred class. I would doubt if it he has a persecution fetish, after all he fucked destiny’s wife, the little cuck.
 
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In case you missed it, over on Twitter, Kash and Bongino are getting ripped to shreds for their piss poor explanation of the Crooks assassination attempt:

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You guys can keep sucking Trump off and letting him cum in your mouth. It won't change the fact that White people are losing, and will keep losing and you guys are "trusting the plan". I called @Null a faggot months ago but he gets it now..
Ice is in basically every major city conducting daily raids with the entire justice system trying their absolute fucking hardest to come up with any bullshit reason as to why they shouldnt be there, and you think thats the admins fault? And not the judiciary abusing their powers?
If you vote in any opposing force in a future election or just straight up dont vote at all and let democrats win what do you think theyre going to do? Help you with immigration? Or are they going to eliminate the filibuster, abuse their powers and ensure that situations like above can never even come close to happening again. It is the start, not the end currently. You literally had Vance 2 days ago directly state that the housing crisis is caused directly by immigration, and you faggots want to throw that all away.
 
You literally had Vance 2 days ago directly state that the housing crisis is caused directly by immigration, and you faggots want to throw that all away.
This part is easily mathematically provable. However, liberals will still stuff wax in their ears and demand that you just implement rent control/tax billionaires/build more affordable housing/etc. instead of simply deporting the foreigners.
 
Ice is in basically every major city conducting daily raids with the entire justice system trying their absolute fucking hardest to come up with any bullshit reason as to why they shouldnt be there, and you think thats the admins fault? And not the judiciary abusing their powers?
If you vote in any opposing force in a future election or just straight up dont vote at all and let democrats win what do you think theyre going to do? Help you with immigration? Or are they going to eliminate the filibuster, abuse their powers and ensure that situations like above can never even come close to happening again. It is the start, not the end currently. You literally had Vance 2 days ago directly state that the housing crisis is caused directly by immigration, and you faggots want to throw that all away.
You're screaming at a brick wall. He doesn't care about your argument, just that you're mad and the thread's derailed.

It's the same thing as that stupid cunt Ann Coulter, after accidentally helping get him elected when the Pied Piper strategy went off the rails, she pivoted to "He still hasn't built the wall, you know" as her opening line on every single righty podcast that would let her on, ignoring the fact that they were pulling out all the stops to try and derail and slow walk his first admin.

It's just a statement to get you pissed since he's SNEEEEEEDing in impotent rage.
 
Do we suddenly disagree with this? Do we genuinely think these people can make missiles?
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These people are not the majority, they are the worst of the unemployed. Not a fair sample size.
The problem is the Federal Government doesn't want to spend money when we're on the verge of collapse.
I agree, however by and large the Federal Government has already de facto implemented sufficient programs for jobs. If anyone has access to a phone, they can register onto job sites also so a lot of these former programs are not entirely necessary since the private sector has job boards available as well.
he didn't say "we need more h1bs" he just said "we need people with certain skills".
Not at all. The quote was:

“No, you don’t, no you don’t … you don’t have certain talents, and people have to learn. You can’t take people off an unemployment line and say, ‘I’m going to put you into a factory where we’re going to make missiles.’”

Damn, i remember Ann Coulter confronting Vivek cause he was indian.At the time, everyone thought that was harsh.....geez shit changes quick huh?
This thread as a whole needs to source stuff more for their claims.
Ice is in basically every major city conducting daily raids with the entire justice system trying their absolute fucking hardest to come up with any bullshit reason as to why they shouldnt be there, and you think thats the admins fault? And not the judiciary abusing their powers?
I agree. We should be reporting more and more with as thorough information as possible.
 
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Rate me if I'm late, but basically the plan is to bring in temporary immigrants to train Americans then leave. Not saying it's great or anything but it's better then the clear botch Trump made. I like the man quite a bit but id be lying if I said this miscommunication wasn't the biggest fuck up so far.

And another thing they may be leaving out im curious about. How many of these immigrants naturalized are white Africans?
The issues are that people rightly don’t fucking believe them and Trump didn’t have the sense to lead with that.
 
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