Russian Special Military Operation in the Ukraine - Mark IV: The Partitioning of Discussion

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The difference between a Russian-speaking comedian and a Ukrainian-speaking politician. You tell me if it was worth it.

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Welll well well, if it is not Rubio admitting to some interesting things. Apparently the survival time for a patriot battery until it is felted in Ukraine is a week. DPA here with the news.









Dr. Alan Grant powiedział(a):
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alright so it looks like the Germans are incredibly desperate
theyre still gonna rely on Russian exported gas and still gonna de-industrialize so this is all for nothing, also planned to conscript women too? has that ever been done in a large scale, ever? imagine your some battered bundeswehr soldier, the (2nd) battle of berlin is about to start, your entire brigade has been chewed to shit and the reinforcements you desperately need turn out to be a bunch of neurotic overmedicated women with rifles.
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What are the new conscripts going to defend against? Germany is already invaded and occupied.


Charred Dinosaur powiedział(a):
I have good news and bad news:

The bad news is out of the 2 videos I have seen claiming to be from the latest strike 1 refuses to download for some reason (thankfully it is 6 seconds long and isn't anything to write home about) and the one that did download is more audio than film and catches no explosion.

The good news is that the audio speaks for itself. I'm no expert in explosions but either something cooked off or the city's remaining air defences fired a good chunk of their munitions.
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Also here is a screenshot of the vid that didn't download. As I said it wasn't anything special.
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Could above statement by Rubio be an explanation? They decide to fire of all their missiles in the hope of hitting anything since they know the batterys lifetime is toast.
 
LMFAO!!!!

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And now there is one more F-35 capability thrown away: one more example of how the government’s “war footing” and “increased defence expenditure” rhetoric is exposed as hollow. On page 146 of the Defence Annual Report and Accounts 2024 to 2025 is a single line, “Rolling Vertical Landing upgrade cancellation”. Amount saved: £309,000.

I’ll come back to budgeting later but for now, this very small saving is being achieved by essentially throwing away much bigger sums invested over past years. It is also sacrificing an important capability for our F-35s.
This is because a normal landing for the F-35B on one of our carriers involves the jet coming alongside the ship, going into the hover (matching the ship’s speed) and transitioning laterally over the deck before descending vertically to set down. This is, for now, the standard method of landing an F-35B at sea, but it was never intended that the Royal Navy would use it as routine.

The plan was that the RN would by now be using the Shipborne Rolling Vertical Landing (SRVL), the full name for the line deleted in the accounts. In an SRVL the jet approaches the ship from astern and lands whilst still doing approximately 40 knots relative to the carrier, so generating lift from its wings as well as its downward-pointing jet exhaust and the engine driven lift fan. The plane then rolls to a stop using its brakes.

That speed doesn’t sound like much but add it to whatever speed the ship is doing and the extra lift means that the jet can come in significantly heavier than it can in a hover landing. Some estimates put the difference as high as 7,000lbs. This matters because if the jet arrives back at the ship too heavy, it has to jettison fuel and weapons until it is light enough to land. Jettisoning fuel is bad enough, as the carrier only has finite amounts of it on board: throwing away expensive weapons into the sea is even worse.

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What is specifically being scrapped here is the RN’s second “Bedford array” which is the bit of kit no longer being fitted to HMS Queen Elizabeth. This is an array of lights installed to provide improved visual references to the pilot conducting an SRVL. HMS Prince of Wales already has this and SRVL trials have been conducted by test pilots, most recently a couple of years ago.
Deciding not to fit out the other carrier, and the cessation even of trials – let alone any move to routine use – for SRVL makes it pretty clear: the plan has been kicked into touch.

That’s depressing. One of the many things that would have been achieved by the 2010 plan to switch our ships to catapult launch and tailhook landing was that the necessary different jets – F-18 Hornets to begin with and F-35C tailhook stealth planes later – would have been much cheaper than F-35B jump jets and able to carry much more fuel and weaponry, and bring that weaponry back to the deck as required.

When the decision was taken to revert back to the F-35B jump jets – expensive and with sharply reduced lifting ability on both takeoff and landing – SRVL was supposed to mitigate the obvious operational limitations of hover landings. Now it has been dropped, and yet another major reduction in combat power has been quietly accepted.
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Charred Dinosaur powiedział(a):
The good news is that the audio speaks for itself. I'm no expert in explosions but either something cooked off or the city's remaining air defences fired a good chunk of their munitions.
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Im no expert either but that dosent sound like return fire or cook offs, that sounds like a cluster munition

Also ABC is reporting on the attack in Kyiv

 
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Dr. Alan Grant powiedział(a):
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alright so it looks like the Germans are incredibly desperate
theyre still gonna rely on Russian exported gas and still gonna de-industrialize so this is all for nothing, also planned to conscript women too? has that ever been done in a large scale, ever? imagine your some battered bundeswehr soldier, the (2nd) battle of berlin is about to start, your entire brigade has been chewed to shit and the reinforcements you desperately need turn out to be a bunch of neurotic overmedicated women with rifles.
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they are already talking conscription
 
Bunkerhousing powiedział(a):
Exactly. I hope many nafofools see it and are seething.


Edit: Also we got an update on the Fog incursion from Alex of History legends on his new flashpoint channel.

Russian Forces Use Fog to SWARM Pokrovsk​


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I think I found NAFO's version of Thumbnail Alex (HistoryLegends)

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It's funny how the guy on the winning side always has the crisis look in his thumbnail while the rep for the side losing catastrophically is always all smiles.
 
SaidNoOneEver powiedział(a):
I think I found NAFO's version of Thumbnail Alex (HistoryLegends)

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It's funny how the guy on the winning side always has the crisis look in his thumbnail while the rep for the side losing catastrophically is always all smiles.
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She's just interested in finding a sponsor. Has to look happy for the future husband
 
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The RuAF has secured the logistically important town of Shakhove. The odds are that the Ukrainians will do some type of a counterattack to the towns western side as an attempt to undermine the Russian forces logistics. This will not work out in the hohols favor given the fortified position held by the Russians just southwest of the town. This will also prompt for the Russians to allocate more forces in this section of the frontline (after Mynohrad is cleared out) for the purpose of securing the next town to the north—Sofiivka. Beyond just that, they will also probably move back north towards towns like Kucheriv Yar.
 
I missed that a new interview with Ted Postal dropped.

They are talking about the weapons Russia presented.


From the youtube description:

The discussion centers on Russia’s recent announcement of two nuclear-powered, nuclear-armed missiles: the Poseidon underwater drone and the Burevestnik nuclear-powered cruise missile. The focus is on the Burevestnik, whose October 21 test reportedly flew 14,000 km over 15 hours, confirming a speed of around Mach 0.85–0.9 and implying true unlimited range due to its nuclear propulsion system.MIT Professor Ted Postol explains that the data released by Putin and General Gerasimov—flight duration and distance—allow experts to estimate the missile’s reactor power and thrust, making clear that it is real, not propaganda. Nuclear-powered cruise missiles were researched by both the U.S. and USSR in the 1950s–60s, but abandoned once ICBMs became accurate and reliable; the old designs required massive reactors and produced dangerous radiation. Russia’s new version uses a much smaller reactor, solves earlier shielding/electronics issues, and emits radiation that is difficult to detect from afar, which explains why Western sensors “saw nothing.”Postol argues the Burevestnik is effectively unstoppable:It can approach from any direction and even loiter for long periods, making attack timing unpredictable.The missile’s rounded, radar-absorbing nose yields an extremely small radar cross-section (well under 0.1 m²).It flies very low, hiding in ground clutter and defeating most radar detection.Systems like the Patriot battery have limited azimuth coverage (about 120° per radar), leaving large gaps unless multiple expensive radars are deployed.Overall, Postol concludes the Burevestnik is a genuine, strategically significant threat that current Western missile defenses are essentially incapable of detecting or intercepting.
 
01169 powiedział(a):
They have agreed to muster all 18 year old MALES. And only German males obviously. Not even sure if most of the youth has actual German citizenship these days. But that's another discussion.
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Good for Germany imo
I say let em spend a year in the barracks, shit's good for your T and life priorities.
Better than gooning and smoking weed while having no job, that's for sure.
Assuming they don't get sent to the trenches.
 
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