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Who is TPUSA expecting to convince in Berkeley? Why have an event there if not to provoke exactly this sort of chimp-out for fundraising?
If you're trying to change people's minds, you don't do it with your own people. You go to where you know kids have been brainwashed and try to change minds by showing them that you're human just like them, and that you're willing to talk out your disagreements.
Do they really want to normalize this as a tactic? Holding a clean budget hostage isn't leverage, it is terrorism. We don't want to be a country where we have a yearly game of chicken.
Just thank your lucky stars that they haven't realized how stupid that this makes them look, because it's going to turn more independent voters than anything in the GOP arsenal.
I wonder how much of this thread has him muted?
Sometimes I think I'm literally the only person that has him unblocked just so I can read his retarded, obvious troll takes.
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In other news, does anybody think that this government shutdown embarrassment will actually make Chuck Schumer resign as the head of the party? Do you really think they'll have the balls to run AOC against him in the next election if he doesn't step down?
 
If you're trying to change people's minds, you don't do it with your own people. You go to where you know kids have been brainwashed and try to change minds by showing them that you're human just like them, and that you're willing to talk out your disagreements.

Just thank your lucky stars that they haven't realized how stupid that this makes them look, because it's going to turn more independent voters than anything in the GOP arsenal.

Sometimes I think I'm literally the only person that has him unblocked just so I can read his retarded, obvious troll takes.
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In other news, does anybody think that this government shutdown will actually make Chuck Schumer resign as the head of the party? Do you really think they'll have the balls to run AOC against them in the next election if he doesn't step down?
I don't think he will step down, he's too egotistical, but they will absolutely try to swap AOC. They just won with Zoran, they now know that any form of retardation can fly with their new base.
 
Sometimes I think I'm literally the only person that has him unblocked just so I can read his retarded, obvious troll takes.
He is on my ignore list, but that list is less of an ignore and more of a quite following. His posts currently reside in the category [comically stupid dem larper]. I suspect his account being a bit, and either a sock or part of a crew, where he is supposed to be comically stupid that makes those from the category [pretend reps] more believable in contrast
 
Chuck Schumer may not resign but the partisan infight mongering with his role in the shutdown is vividly palpable. The main takeaway from all this still escapes the Democrats and Democrat voters though.
 
I don't think he will step down, he's too egotistical, but they will absolutely try to swap AOC. They just won with Zoran, they now know that any form of retardation can fly with their new base.
I don't think even they have the hubris to assume that inept retards like Zoran or AOC will fly with the majority of their base, but unfortunately for Schumer is that people from NY, California and Massachusetts are a completely different breed of fucking gullible and stupid.
There's literally only three geographical locations in America where they would vote in a no nothing communist bag of shit, and unfortunately for Chucky, he's the senator of one such place.
That's what makes me laugh about people saying that AOC could be ran as the next Democratic nominee for president in 2028. Even the DNC isn't that incompetent. Kamala went a shade too far to the left, and got the ass spanking of a lifetime by Trump. You put AOC in one presidential debate especially against JD Vance, and everyone in America who doesn't live in Chicago, New York, California and Massachusetts will say out loud "Oh my goodness, this bitch is a fucking retard" and Vance will sweep every swing state.
 
Believe it or not, llibshit states like California and New York still have people who trend Republican but remain disaffected due to decades of Democrat hegemony and GOP collusion to maintain the status quo. TPUSA's impact on liberal states is to be determined, but to that end? Abandoning disaffected normies who trend Republican in liberal shitholes because they're in a reliably blue state doesn't do anything to further the message. Staying within the confines of GOP strongholds means that TPUSA is no better than an echo chamber. Charlie Kirk did love to engage in actual debates with people who fundamentally disagreed with him. It seems only fitting that TPUSA continue the tradition.
Not to mention it works extremely well highlighting to online bystanders how vitriolic the libshits are, reinforcing the right wingers' beliefs and making the moderates think. As always, the goal of debate is not to convert the opponent, but the audience, if you can actually get the opponent to change their position that's just gravy.
 
Do they really want to normalize this as a tactic? Holding a clean budget hostage isn't leverage, it is terrorism. We don't want to be a country where we have a yearly game of chicken.

I wonder how much of this thread has him muted?
I have him on my ignore list, the constant stream of doomposting gets tedious after a while.
 
Kamala went a shade too far to the left, and got the ass spanking of a lifetime by Trump. You put AOC in one presidential debate especially against JD Vance, and everyone in America who doesn't live in Chicago, New York, California and Massachusetts will say out loud "Oh my goodness, this bitch is a fucking retard" and Vance will sweep every swing state.
Good point, that's the great unknowable for now.

What happens behind the close doors of the DNC, how far radicalized are they in the decision making backroom and really believing in their marxist bubble being the reality. Its a given that justice dems want to get rid of the Clintonians, what they likely managed with the caving in. If they have really gone of the far road and are convinced, then they are going to run AOC or somebody similar, and completely destroy the party for a few decades.

If its bait and the financiers and donors the Clintonians brought in are still on board of the platform, then they have no choice but to go further right for the independent vote, while having to somehow convince their radicalized base to go along, which would point to a switch from pretend marxists to pretend very left leaning lolberts. Rand is the one to keep an eye on in that case.

Edit: or somebody that is similar to Rands profile; EX-Republican ("he saw the light "woke"-up and is now an ally against evil orange man and his army of fascist darkness") able to straight out lie believable contrary to Camela, to sell him/her to the radicalized base, already has a track record that shows willingness to compromise for the independent and rinos that are not gung-ho for Vance, is snow white with white Christian family for the larpzis and racial white voters that were brainwashed by the dems false flaggers that created and are nurturing the myth of "alt-right"
 
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They're admitting that the plan was to keep the shutdown going until people started starving and rioting just to make Trump look bad.
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Duh, didn't you know, that's the official stance of the Democratic party since 2020; we're better than Trump. As a wise Lurker reminded me, 9/11.



You gotta admit he does have a point.
No he doesn't are ya nuts? If I invite you into my house, you're my guest and are governed by my rules. The difference between this and mamdani is the nigger muslim gypsy is, the fuckin' gypsy has legitimate power through symbolism; consider it the moment Trump got elected in 2016 but for muslims. Giving the map to the castle is not the same as inviting someone over for a chat.
 
Good point, that's the great unknowable for now.

What happens behind the close doors of the DNC, how far radicalized are they in the decision making backroom and really believing in their marxist bubble being the reality. Its a given that justice dems want to get rid of the Clintonians, what they likely managed with the caving in. If they have really gone of the far road and are convinced, then they are going to run AOC or somebody similar, and completely destroy the party for a few decades.
I think they know that radicalized bullshit plays in a couple of blue cities, but it won't get them any swing states.
Their base are niggers and beaners who are extremely homophobic, so Pete Buttigieg and his maternity leave to have a gayby probably wouldn't even win them the inner cities.
The vast majority of the base is stupid, uninformed white women. So I think that their best bet would to be run somebody like that sleaze ball Gavin Newsom. It's the best that they have to try to pacify everyone in their base, but as Joe Rogan so accurately pointed out, you don't get to be the mayor and then the governor and fuck up spectacularly and then say "Ok guys, those were just practice rounds. Make me the president and I'll fix everything"
The Democrats problem right now is that everyone that they could possibly run is either a fucking joke or a loony leftist communist nutter.
I don't believe that they have anyone that they can run against Vance successfully, unless the Trump administration does something to fuck up spectacularly. They tried to force a spectacular fuck up on Trump with the kindy level tantrum and shutdown, and that blew up in their faces and created unprecedented division in their own party. Imagine the senate minority whip voting against the minority leader. I mean, you love to see it.
If its bait and the financiers and donors the Clintonians brought in are still on board of the platform, then they have no choice but to go further right for the independent vote, while having to somehow convince their radicalized base to go along, which would point to a switch from pretend marxists to pretend very left leaning lolberts. Rand is the one to keep an eye on in that case.
In my opinion we are watching in real time the fracture of the Democratic party that's going to cost them maybe not the 2026 midterms, but definitely the 2028 election.
 
so the weed thing is still in?
ngl I think this could really have some knock-down effects (and not just "I have trouble getting weed" I can get medical easy enough)
these businesses aren't running on pixy dust and USAID money. They are making money from a lot of customers and they're hiring people and paying their business taxes with that money.
one of my main shops props up a carpentry place by leasing out part of the building, so when they go the carpenter's probably SOL too

it would be one thing if they pulled this as an actual bill, but shitting it in as a rider as the CLEAN SPENDING BILL on Veterans Day is some real bullshit when so much was made of "no changes, just extending"
 
Dude sounds like a faggot. Why isn't his life any better? Is it because he's too busy sucking cock to not improve it himself? If this is a friend of yours, tell him THE GhastlyRetard said he was a queer and he needs to take his life into his own hands and realize no one will care about his well being but himself.

This dooming over Trump not being the absolute badass we wish he was and personally raping every brown to cross the border is ridiculous. It's better than the alternative was, and it was the best we were going to get for now. Thinking one man would change it, especially after Trump's first term, is some real low IQ thinking. In fact, wish this nigger good luck on paying off his Nissan Altima.
 
I don't think he will step down, he's too egotistical, but they will absolutely try to swap AOC. They just won with Zoran, they now know that any form of retardation can fly with their new base.
I don't think you can say new base just yet, it's AOC who isn't all that popular outside of the big cities, and mayoral race in the same bubble. Even if they are rising in popularity, they're probably not going to poll well outside of cities yet. I think we need to get deeper into the 2026 midterms to actually see what is happening on a national scale, putting that much stock in AOC or an equal would be a bad idea imo, they'd win back some voters if they pushed Bernie's old ass over AOC.
 
The vast majority of the base is stupid, uninformed white women
I hate to come over as a women hater, but unfortunately when it comes to women, anybody that looks passable, has some rizz and can talk the talk and that vote is secured. Women are for the most part stupider than a chimpanzee when it comes to politics.
So I think that their best bet would to be run somebody like that sleaze ball Gavin Newsom
I suppose he is going to be in the primaries, though as you say, low chance to win with his profile. More of way to find out how to nuance the actual candidates messaging after the primaries.
They tried to force a spectacular fuck up on Trump with the kindy level tantrum and shutdown, and that blew up in their faces and created unprecedented division in their own party. Imagine the senate minority whip voting against the minority leader. I mean, you love to see it.
I'm still very convinced the play was never targeted at Trump. For now it might look as if the dems are completely in disarray, but if this play ousted the last Clintonians, its actually the opposite and the narrative more bait to give the Trump republican a false feeling of already having it in the bag.
In my opinion we are watching in real time the fracture of the Democratic party that's going to cost them maybe not the 2026 midterms, but definitely the 2028 election.
Hard to say. I tend to agree and that the saver play would be targeting 2030/32, but it's the USA, a deeply Jupiterian culture, nothing the populus loves more than the supposed dead phoenix rising from the ashes.
 
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