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Should be a wild four years.

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No, it’s retarded. You sound like one of those idiots who gets ripped off at the dealer by negotiating the monthly payment and ends up paying $100k for a $50k car that they have to keep for 10 years.

With shorter terms and higher interest rates, sellers are forced to lower their prices because there aren’t that many people who can afford to pay the prices they want (obviously, a closed border also helps). All longer terms and lower rates do is enable sellers (and banks) to get more money at the expense of the buyer by increasing the size of the market that can “afford” to pay higher prices.
Not the same analogy here. Yeah you're right about the pricing but houses appreciate while cars depreciate.
 
the tariffs will encourage local production and investment, and already have, but it will take time for that sort of thing to affect consumers

I'm like several pages behind because the highlights stopped auto-updating for now. What I will say is that the local production and investment angle is not the angle that Republicans should be framing the tariff discussion. Yes, that is one of the angles tariffs are demonstrably beneficial, but Trump's leaving so much on the table by seemingly ignoring the wealth transfer aspect of tariffs. US Customs is rolling in cash, we're talking triple digit billions of dollars as of November 2025 when they were collecting high single, low double digit billions every quarter for the last 30-40 years. Tariffs are a form of revenue collection from commercial pockets that are collected at the time the cargo enters the USA via the relevant port of entry during the Monday through Friday, 9am to 5pm business cycle.

Actual "proper" taxation where you rely on the IRS to make rich people and big businesses pay their fair share is a third rail that countless politicians, Democrats and Republicans alike, have died on. The USA got its foundation explicitly due to "no taxation without representation." Taxes, as far back as the 18th century before the USA ever declared independence in the first place, remain a deeply contentious issue that the best and brightest political stars will unanimously end up dying on. The IRS also collects tax revenue after the end of the Fiscal Year, deadline being April 15th. This is ample time to cook your books both during the fiscal year and after. The only people paying more are the Joe Schmoes and other such ordinary jackoffs who don't know the correct ways to be rich and avoid paying taxes or simply don't have enough going on in their lives to take advantage of such loopholes.

Capital flight is the anathema of the IRS, but capital flight don't mean jack shit when you're a multi-billion dollar company operating in the USA and you need to pay the same tariff rates for cargo coming out of the EU, Southeast Asia, China, or whatever that the average small-to-medium sized business has to pay. Furthermore, not all tariffs translate 1:1 with consumer prices. Yes, imported foodstuffs, drinks, medicines, and other such materials that the home consumer can access will go up much faster to the average jack-off. You know what the average consumer doesn't pay out the ass for? Industrial machinery like valves, gears, rotors, actuators, and so on, industrial petrochemical, injection moulded plastics, used semiconductor wafers, vaccine samples, cold chain stuff meant for biomedical/life science companies like Merck/Millipore, etc. Y'know... the types of industrial/commercial cargo that your average jack-off won't ever see impacting their grocery bills, their pharmacy bills, or anything like that.

The USA is also the world's largest consumer market, where no singular nation-state or economic bloc can ever hope to usurp. Europoors, Aussies, Chinese, Japanese, Indians, Africans, Arabs, all other non-American groups? They make fun of America's unhinged consumerism, and rightly so. Yet that smug satisfaction in the American's desire to consume product even if it's against their own interests also means that no other remotely developed or emerging region of the world has the capacity, infrastructure, or scale to match the USA's consumption patterns. We could literally just have a flat 10% tariff on all imports, nothing else, and Trump could tell the rest of the world "you people need a destination for imports, you make fun of Americans for consuming, but you guys took the industry we left behind. Either pay up to do business here, or good luck trying to find another market for your crap."

Yet even now, the whole conversation around tariffs revolves around deprecated globalisation talking points about regression, how free trade is the best trade, how America needs to uphold the rules based international order that only America is seemingly beholden to and not China who actively leverages inequities that give it a disproportionate advantage, and pipe dreams about factories and refineries that won't see operation until Trump exits office and whoever wins 2028 will benefit from. It's maddening, really.
 
Not the same analogy here. Yeah you're right about the pricing but houses appreciate while cars depreciate.
Houses (the building) depreciate. The land underneath can appreciate, but it can also depreciate (e.g. anyone who bought a house in Detroit in 1950 or in a rural small town with a dying population and no jobs). Houses also have carrying costs (property taxes, maintenance) that consume a lot of the “gain”. They are terrible investments with their only benefit being that you can easily get leverage on them.

California’s insane housing appreciation is entirely due to massive immigration increasing demand; it’s not a fact of life that houses appreciate.
 
I'm starting to think that on the near-zero percent chance the Senate actually does kill the filibuster, Trump won't even bother using it to push through the policies he says he will. Who knows, he might even normalize 70-year mortgages soon.

I wont support this Admin if they try and push this through, simple as. Its not even worth discussing. What the fuck is Trump smoking?

Epstein shit was mad morally, but this will destroy us forever as an economy
Don't worry, he will do even more retarded shit tomorrow.

It's astounding just how many people are jumping off the Trump train this week. God only knows how many fell for it again awards are being handed out.
 
Mark Levin to Tucker Carlson, Nick Fuentes and all anti-Zionists: "You think your stupid little podcast, or your stupid little subscription program, or your little TV show, or maybe you have a little radio show, is going to change the world? Like hell it is!"
okay my message to the stupid fucking kikes is what are the stupid fucking retarded kikes going to do when america is no longer white? are you going to get niggers to die for israel? hispanics? oh wait no they fucking hate you, and they cant be shamed because a fucking nigger has no shame and hispanics either are left wing or they want to be white or are white and have the benefit of a minority handle as a shield. nigga is the arabs going to help you? maybe focus on that. maybe have congress unite to vote on things together besides bombing babies for you to fix the shit you broke here first.

a majority white functioning america? will probably help you kikes if you stop trying to wallet rape and negro rape people here out of your own fucking greed. so how about that? dont want me to sieg heil? dont want men to romanticize goose stepping? dont want total kike death? then how about fucking act like it instead of trying to squeeze a penny or get one more hit in on whitey. you dumb yid son of a bitch.
This is actually a really good idea and you’re retarded for thinking it’s bad. This enables a lower monthly rate. The fact that you pay more interest than a 30-yr is irrelevant if you can’t afford the 30-yr in the first place, because equity of the home will go up. Having an appreciating asset that costs higher is better than not having one at all, and it’s not slavery: you can always refinance or pay off the mortgage early.

The only reason lenders haven’t already done this is because of overregulation.
or we can just not have eternal debt slavery that benefits only a class of usurer pedophiles who hate us and betray us at every given turn, instead of tuning the yolk so the slaves can carry the burden a bit longer without collapsing.
 
All longer terms and lower rates do is enable sellers (and banks) to get more money at the expense of the buyer by increasing the size of the market that can “afford” to pay higher prices.
this is a more Jewish move than bombing Iran was. lol
California’s insane housing appreciation is entirely due to massive immigration increasing demand; it’s not a fact of life that houses appreciate.
"don't worry bro, we'll import another 200 million shitskins and you'll make a tidy profit when you're 87" our plan to """fix""" the housing market is unironically to just do the same shit the boomers did and are currently doing to destroy the country. (:_(
 
I dunno I don’t conflate the party with the voters I guess is my issue. Pelosi may have united the DNC but I would argue they didn’t do very much good for the Democratic voter.

In fact the state it’s in is because of fossils who refused to retire like her.
Yeah, that's true as well. she was a horrible evil piece of shit, but she very much defined the DNC for a solid stretch there.
 
Don't worry, in between this breathtakingly stupid shit he's actually getting the real important shit done:

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Is Trump speed running his Biden era WHAT THE FUCK IS GOING ON?

Its been 5 months since the man has done anything of substance unless you count knocking down 1/3rd of the white house. All he has really done is force other countries to pay more to keep manufacturing jobs outside of the US and stopped the overwhelming surge of immigrants into our country, these are both 1 page long EOs. I say again WHAT THE FUCK has he been up to?

NIGGER YOUR GOVERNMENT IS SHUT DOWN AND YOUR PROMOTING A 50 YEAR MORTGAGE AND ASKING FOR STADIUMS TO BE NAMED AFTER YOU?

IDK maybe the 50 year mortgage is breaking my brain, the fact he can advocate that in all seriousness has me questioning everything in his Admin.
 
Is Trump speed running his Biden era WHAT THE FUCK IS GOING ON?

Its been 5 months since the man has done anything of substance unless you count knocking down 1/3rd of the white house. All he has really done is force other countries to pay more to keep manufacturing jobs outside of the US and stopped the overwhelming surge of immigrants into our country, these are both 1 page long EOs. I say again WHAT THE FUCK has he been up to?

NIGGER YOUR GOVERNMENT IS SHUT DOWN AND YOUR PROMOTING A 50 YEAR MORTGAGE AND ASKING FOR STADIUMS TO BE NAMED AFTER YOU?

IDK maybe the 50 year mortgage is breaking my brain, the fact he can advocate that in all seriousness has me questioning everything in his Admin.
He's fucked and he knows it. Might as well just crash the country with no survivors.

this is a more Jewish move than bombing Iran was. lol

"don't worry bro, we'll import another 200 million shitskins and you'll make a tidy profit when you're 87" our plan to """fix""" the housing market is unironically to just do the same shit the boomers did and are currently doing to destroy the country. (:_(
At this point I'm perfectly content with just letting Democrats rape us into oblivion if this is the alternative.

What they always do; move on. They're already making plans for Poland, Czechia, Germany, etc.
Can this week get any more fucking blackpilling?
 
I'm like several pages behind because the highlights stopped auto-updating for now. What I will say is that the local production and investment angle is not the angle that Republicans should be framing the tariff discussion. Yes, that is one of the angles tariffs are demonstrably beneficial, but Trump's leaving so much on the table by seemingly ignoring the wealth transfer aspect of tariffs. US Customs is rolling in cash, we're talking triple digit billions of dollars as of November 2025 when they were collecting high single, low double digit billions every quarter for the last 30-40 years. Tariffs are a form of revenue collection from commercial pockets that are collected at the time the cargo enters the USA via the relevant port of entry during the Monday through Friday, 9am to 5pm business cycle.

Actual "proper" taxation where you rely on the IRS to make rich people and big businesses pay their fair share is a third rail that countless politicians, Democrats and Republicans alike, have died on. The USA got its foundation explicitly due to "no taxation without representation." Taxes, as far back as the 18th century before the USA ever declared independence in the first place, remain a deeply contentious issue that the best and brightest political stars will unanimously end up dying on. The IRS also collects tax revenue after the end of the Fiscal Year, deadline being April 15th. This is ample time to cook your books both during the fiscal year and after. The only people paying more are the Joe Schmoes and other such ordinary jackoffs who don't know the correct ways to be rich and avoid paying taxes or simply don't have enough going on in their lives to take advantage of such loopholes.

Capital flight is the anathema of the IRS, but capital flight don't mean jack shit when you're a multi-billion dollar company operating in the USA and you need to pay the same tariff rates for cargo coming out of the EU, Southeast Asia, China, or whatever that the average small-to-medium sized business has to pay. Furthermore, not all tariffs translate 1:1 with consumer prices. Yes, imported foodstuffs, drinks, medicines, and other such materials that the home consumer can access will go up much faster to the average jack-off. You know what the average consumer doesn't pay out the ass for? Industrial machinery like valves, gears, rotors, actuators, and so on, industrial petrochemical, injection moulded plastics, used semiconductor wafers, vaccine samples, cold chain stuff meant for biomedical/life science companies like Merck/Millipore, etc. Y'know... the types of industrial/commercial cargo that your average jack-off won't ever see impacting their grocery bills, their pharmacy bills, or anything like that.

The USA is also the world's largest consumer market, where no singular nation-state or economic bloc can ever hope to usurp. Europoors, Aussies, Chinese, Japanese, Indians, Africans, Arabs, all other non-American groups? They make fun of America's unhinged consumerism, and rightly so. Yet that smug satisfaction in the American's desire to consume product even if it's against their own interests also means that no other remotely developed or emerging region of the world has the capacity, infrastructure, or scale to match the USA's consumption patterns. We could literally just have a flat 10% tariff on all imports, nothing else, and Trump could tell the rest of the world "you people need a destination for imports, you make fun of Americans for consuming, but you guys took the industry we left behind. Either pay up to do business here, or good luck trying to find another market for your crap."

Yet even now, the whole conversation around tariffs revolves around deprecated globalisation talking points about regression, how free trade is the best trade, how America needs to uphold the rules based international order that only America is seemingly beholden to and not China who actively leverages inequities that give it a disproportionate advantage, and pipe dreams about factories and refineries that won't see operation until Trump exits office and whoever wins 2028 will benefit from. It's maddening, really.

Not sure if I or millions of other muricans can wait til the benefits from tariffs arise
 
This is possibly one of the most entertaining threads on this site. Not because I'm American, but because it's a fascinating insight into the users of this site who appear to be hear to run interference, demoralise or shit their pants and scream about Donald Trump as they might have in 2016. Fascinating.
 
This is possibly one of the most entertaining threads on this site. Not because I'm American, but because it's a fascinating insight into the users of this site who appear to be hear to run interference, demoralise or shit their pants and scream about Donald Trump as they might have in 2016. Fascinating.
50-year mortgage is objectively a bad thing, nigger. Nothing to do with "running interference" or "demoralization."
 
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