💬 Off-Topic Random Trans Thoughts, Musings, and Questions - For all your armchair psych and general sperging

[sheepworldvizor]

Re puppygirls, I have to assume there’s some overlap with their scat fetishes because dogs shit in public and a large % of troons seem to be filthy diaper freaks.

 

[Aunt Carol]

Kiwis, what do we think of this? According to NYT some women are dosing T up to serum levels approaching those of men. The article is kind of middle road: “some women reported great sex and way more energy, other had serious mood problems, acne, facial hair growth voice changes and hair loss. Some of them had both at the same time!”

Oh, man, I remember an article by a woman taking small doses of testosterone for libido etc., but it was decades ago, on printed paper, before the Great Troonout. Utne Reader or New Yorker kind of magazine and that's all I remember.

That long-ago lady reporter talked about how she felt more confident and got stuff done and found decisions easier... but then she listened to her voice on an answering machine and heard a flat affect, no life in it (she wasn't at frog voice dose/duration) and she analyzed her behavior and realized she was objectively being an asshole to her friends/acting out of character.

It was still navel-gazey reporting, but even casual writing about personal experience like that would be forbidden now. You can write about getting hairy or getting vaginal atrophy, but cross-sex hormones affecting behavior? Illegal.


(I fully realize this would be more interesting if I could remember where or when I read it; sorry.)

 

[2SLGBQTIA+ 2 Furious]

They want to fuck dogs.

It's as good a theory as any.

Even before trans hit terminal velocity, there was basically an understanding of the common AGP/HSTS typology on the rare occasions you'd see them: there are a tiny number of guys (and an even smaller number of girls) who feel like they're born in the wrong body and may have been repressing it for years which makes them sad, and guys who go clubbing every night and are so gay they may as well be a woman within the social niche they inhabit.

Such an understanding does not exist for "puppygirls", furries, therians etc., at least not to anyone who is not terminally online. Every time a "child identifies as a cat" story is in the news it has a plausible deniability about it because of course humans aren't dogs. "These chuds think heckin' valid trans women are perving on women in changing rooms, they have brain worms, of course they believe that there are children saying they're dogs." But the chuds, and even the normies, understand the sincere claims being made about transgenderism; the claims made about animal identities are veiled in irony but of course the small number of people making them cross over heavily with transgenderism and its associated comorbidities and behaviours.

It's too stupid even for most of the people who believe men can become women, but if you go down a Twitter rabbit hole you can, of course, find people declaring, seemingly in all sincerity, that they are animals.

I've seen people's rotting inverted penises and flayed forearm skin tubes on this website. It's horrific, very darkly funny but ultimately worth it to know the truth about probably the most insane popular medical claims that have been made in my lifetime. If someone's fucking their dog there's nothing for me to learn from that. There is no need for journalists to infiltrate chat groups and message in secret to drop the Dog Fucker Files, beyond putting such people in prison.

 

[General Zoider]

I have found a way to break any conversion involving the whole egg thing. Quickly turn the topic of conversion into food.

Re puppygirls, I have to assume there’s some overlap with their scat fetishes because dogs shit in public and a large % of troons seem to be filthy diaper freaks.

I still dont understand that and i have studied /lgbt/ for a good few months now. But i have a feeling its built into the whole sissy nonsense because the diaper is usually followed by all pink clothing, especially if the subject is or was male.

You can write about getting hairy or getting vaginal atrophy, but cross-sex hormones affecting behavior? Illegal.

MtF troons see that behavioral change as part of the fetish/dysphoria where they truly feel like the gender they were ment to be ... when in really they take on the worst aspects of the gender, especially involving the histerics/mood swings.

but if you go down a Twitter rabbit hole you can, of course, find people declaring, seemingly in all sincerity, that they are animals.

plus, you have stuff like trans-racial and trans-age. Tho I will say that if you wish to shut down conversations bring up transhumanism/therians/otherkins/transracial and ask why they arent accepted under the trans umbralla. They will either seethe, sperg out, or shut down and block you.

 

[L.V. Danslalune]

What exactly makes transgenders so special that so many people rush to their defense? I saw this article about a trans inmate (who is a pedophile) repeatedly called this Ugandan nurse a nigger and the nurse was the one who got in trouble. Why is it that transgenders are so high up on this oppression scale that some can basically get away with near anything?

 

[bouquetnine]

Such an understanding does not exist for "puppygirls", furries, therians etc., at least not to anyone who is not terminally online. Every time a "child identifies as a cat" story is in the news it has a plausible deniability about it because of course humans aren't dogs. "These chuds think heckin' valid trans women are perving on women in changing rooms, they have brain worms, of course they believe that there are children saying they're dogs."

I'm quite sure puppygirls and therians are very different. Puppygirls are in it for that infantalization where they have no expectations or responsibilities. Therians may as well be trannies but trying to change their species, with a large contingent of them trying to fuck other members of their "true species".

I still dont understand that and i have studied /lgbt/ for a good few months now. But i have a feeling its built into the whole sissy nonsense because the diaper is usually followed by all pink clothing, especially if the subject is or was male.

One of the main tranny drugs has urinal incontinence as a common side effect. Bottoms also regularly lose control of their bowels as a result of getting railed. They have to wear diapers. They try to rebrand this as their fetish or identity or whatever as people are slightly more accepting of kink than they are of the idea that these creatures are so committed to their hedonism to the point that they can no longer control their body functions.

What exactly makes transgenders so special that so many people rush to their defense?

Jews. It's all about inverting the truth and demoralizing the public. Trannies are a very strong purity filter to see how obedient people are to authority.

 

[General Zoider]

What exactly makes transgenders so special that so many people rush to their defense? I saw this article about a trans inmate (who is a pedophile) repeatedly called this Ugandan nurse a nigger and the nurse was the one who got in trouble. Why is it that transgenders are so high up on this oppression scale that some can basically get away with near anything?

Because they are following this.



transgenders became the top of oppression because they are considered a minority, with having all bad actions shoved under the rug because "the hormones made me do it".

They are more or less considered ... or were considered (I think a lot of current events are slowly changing the standing) the direwolf puppies of the social hierarchy. They somehow need to be protected while they destroy your home and harm themselves and others in the process.

 

[and I must scream]

Because they are following this.

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transgenders became the top of oppression because they are considered a minority, with having all bad actions shoved under the rug because "the hormones made me do it".

They are more or less considered ... or were considered (I think a lot of current events are slowly changing the standing) the direwolf puppies of the social hierarchy. They somehow need to be protected while they destroy your home and harm themselves and others in the process.

Unless they are Israeli Jews, then they are ranked at the very bottom.

 

[Soso]

What exactly makes transgenders so special that so many people rush to their defense? I saw this article about a trans inmate (who is a pedophile) repeatedly called this Ugandan nurse a nigger and the nurse was the one who got in trouble. Why is it that transgenders are so high up on this oppression scale that some can basically get away with near anything?

Half of it felt like it was a trend, and the current thing to do. So they would fall in line and defend the troon of the day, and since troons victimize themselves, it made it easier for the trendchasers to do under the guise of "Just be a better person." I also believe there are some who were, and maybe still are, scared of the media blowback if Gwendolyn no #400 threatens to sue. Even if the lawsuit doesn't go anywhere, your entire family gets harrassed by a bunch of activists and trannies because you wouldn't let Gwendolyn expose himself or wax his balls. There were plenty of cases where many had proof that the troon was being disruptive but of course, the tranny victimizes himself and next thing you know, you're posted everywhere on social media.

It's a shame it took this long, and wish it would have happened earlier if it wasn't for the lockdown insanity, but I'm glad the backlash is happening and people are finally saying they weren't okay with it.

 

[bouquetnine]

Unless they are Israeli Jews, then they are ranked at the very bottom.

This is variable. Only those that follow some kind of internal consistency rank Israelis low, but this is an example of the proverbial golem turning on its master.

 

[General Zoider]

It's a shame it took this long, and wish it would have happened earlier if it wasn't for the lockdown insanity, but I'm glad the backlash is happening and people are finally saying they weren't okay with it.

Same im hoping the backlash completely kills off the grifting side and leaves the people who actually have the condition and arent faking it. Essentially I want it to kill off the fake gays and leave only the actual homosexuals but in trans form.

 

[and I must scream]

This is variable. Only those that follow some kind of internal consistency rank Israelis low, but this is an example of the proverbial golem turning on its master.

Do you claim that the left and the queer follow some kind of internal consistency? That's a laugh.

 

[Boggy B]

Bottoms also regularly lose control of their bowels as a result of getting railed.

Oh boy! I get to remind the world of this little misadventure again!

And a local archive, of course:

 

[L.V. Danslalune]

Transgenderism gets in the way of much of the left actually uniting and making some positive change for once because the constant purity testing means that any disagreement means you're a bigot who deserves to die. I've read the threads on JK Rowling (who agrees with like 99% of these people) and Jesse Singal (he's actually closer to being an ally from what I've read), but because these people question the narrative tarring and feathering awaits. Assuming the left keeps putting up genderspecials will they have any chance at a long term future?

 

[Polexia Aphrodisia]

So someone posted this commissioned fanart on the subreddit for Bobs Burgers, with the caption "my amazing wife got me this picture of our wedding for my birthday"

I'm looking at it like "there's no way that at least one of them isn't a tranny".

Sure enough....

Spoiler: 3 years ago: "My wife validated me in such an unexpected way this morning!"

I'm very early in my transition. (Just found out I'm trans a few weeks ago and working on accepting myself. Expect to start HRT in August.). I'm 34 AMAB.

Two of the biggest hurdles for me have been "How do I see myself as a woman?" And "How did I not realize all this sooner?". So, of course, I've been thinking back through my life and remembering all these stupid little things that seemed meaningless, but when they're put together it just seems so obvious.

Well, this morning over coffee, my wife goes, "you know, I guess things won't change all that much for us. You've always wanted to be told you're attractive. You like being cuddled. You're the bottom in bed.".

And I just beamed. I told her "you're noticing things that never crossed my mind.".

I know these things aren't necessarily "proof I'm a girl" or whatever. But it's just more things to add to the pile. And it makes me feel so good when someone else notices them because it's so reassuring and affirming that I really am a woman. And I just wanted to share that with all of you!

Spoiler: 3 years ago: "My wife of 7 years, partner of 12, is leaving me. And I have never felt pain like this. (Sad post)"

My wife and I met in our early 20's. And we fell in love so fast. We were perfect for each other. We grew together. We supported each other. We were each other's rocks when something would go wrong. We rarely fought. The only real struggle we had was in our sex life. She has sexual trauma in her past. But we went to therapy to work through that and found ways to compromise and be ok.

We bought a house together 9 years ago. We have a dog and quite a lot in retirement savings. We decided together not to have kids.

We traveled. We saw Australia, London, Paris, Edinburgh, Dublin, parts of Canada, most of the US east coast, and LA together. She was the best travel buddy.

We woke up every morning and made each other coffee and breakfast. And we watched TV together at night. We went to bed at the same time and held hands as we fell asleep.

We shared political views and opinions. We were always both a little queer. She loved my family and I loved hers.

We shared our friend groups. We threw parties together. Everyone looked at us as an impenetrable couple. We were everything I ever hoped for. I never even dreamed of finding a partner as perfect as her.

When I started exploring my gender, she was open to it. When I told her I wanted to go on hormones, she said "we'll figure this out together." She struggled a little at first with some things. But once she worked through that, she never deadnamed or misgendered me. And she saw me. She was my biggest supporter. She knew that, no matter what, detransitioning would never be an option. And she would never humor it. She affirmed me more than I could have ever asked for. I'd make comment about things being different and she'd remind me I'm a woman and there's no going back. That she never had a husband. She'd stand up for me when people messed up or said something ignorant.

But early in transition, I could see her starting to struggle with some things. She loved me, but she started to get uncomfortable touching me. She didn't want to touch my chest. And then sex stopped.

We've been in therapy together right along. We've tried so many things. But a wall went up. And she couldn't bring it down. She still loved me. She still does. But she's not in love with me.

This morning, she sat me down and told me we need to separate. She told me I deserve someone who can treat me like a woman and worship my body and hold me and touch me.

She hasn't met someone else. I know that 110%. She just needs to be alone. It's possible she even discovered some form of asexuality and/or aromanticism for herself. But I'm not here to speculate much. And she wants me to be happy.

Some part of me knows she's right. That I deserve someone who wants to touch me and make me feel good.

A friend reminded me today that I'm young enough to find someone who will be with me longer than I was with her.

But no matter how right everyone is...it hurts so bad.

I've learned to cry for the first time in my life and it's a blessing and a curse right now. I'm not angry. I'm not resentful. I'm just so, so sad. It's 3:30 in the morning as I write this because I woke up crying. I cried on and off all night. My friend held me. I'm staying in her guest room tonight.

My wife was my person. And for those of you who are familiar, that is such a strong thing. It's...something many people don't find.

We were so happy.

And if I hadn't discovered I was trans, this never would have happened. I don't regret being trans, or transitioning. But I also don't know if I can ever truly get over this.

And I don't think I can bear to be friends with her. How would I look her in the eye without remembering everything we were? And if she does find another partner, how could I look at them and not feel inadequate? Like I failed her?

This is day 0. I know it'll get easier. But the pain will never truly go away. Not this time. Neither of us did anything wrong. We tried, and it didn't work.

Transition can be so cruel sometimes. I can't go back. And I won't. But sometimes I wish I could.

Spoiler: 8 months ago: "I want y'all to know you really can meet your goals"

I'm passing roughly my 3rd year of transition. I'm 37 and started at 34.

I started my social transition in February '22. It took some time to really admit I was trans, but I was playing with clothes and presentation at the time.

After getting set up with therapy and only a couple sessions, I realized I actually wanted to go on hormones. I admitted that in May of '22 and shortly after actually admitted I was trans, and possibly a woman.

In July, I started hormones. It was an exciting moment for me, but also terrifying. I had already informed my friends and family, but wasn't fully living as a woman yet. Mostly just around people I trusted for the time being.

I decided I'd live full-time and come out to places like work after about a year on hormones. But it got so stressful to hide who I was. So I came out to work in January '23. I was fortunate; everyone accepted me quickly and we moved on without issue.

Around this time, I realized I was starting to "pass" in public. I'd get clocked on occasion, but not often. I had a sharper brow line, which was my biggest giveaway, I suppose. But it wasn't obvious in normal daylight.

I had my first gender affirming surgery that year: an orchiectomy. This was a HUGE relief for me because I no longer felt stressed about suppressing my T. It also made it much easier to tuck and feel comfortable in public.

In Nov of '23, I also had FFS. Once I did that, the misgendering all but stopped, with the exception of my family.

Unfortunately, by this time my wife had left me. That was a struggle, but I'm here. I survived. I still grieve her, but she deserves to be happy and with someone she can feel attraction to. She hurt me, for sure. But I can only be so mad at her. I'm doing my best to forgive.

In February of '24, I met a cis lesbian on a dating app. She didn't know I was trans at first. I told her when she agreed to a first date. I didn't want to get there and find out she was transphobic or something. But not only did she not care, but she was one of the most educated people on trans issues I've ever met. Turns out her ex was a TERF and it forced her to learn everything she could about trans people to dispute her, ironically. She and I live together now because she's kinda the best thing that's ever happened to me.

In June of '25, I got GCS. Suddenly my body felt like my own. My dysphoria had all but dissipated. I go entire days without thinking about my trans-ness.

Just last night, I went to a big local event that's almost exclusively attended by women. I went with 3 girl friends and we shared a hotel room. Not for a single second did I feel out of place, unwelcome, or treated differently by them. And not a single person at the event clocked me or even gave me a second glance. (Except MAYBE the one other trans woman there. But I think she only clocked that I was gay, since I was pretty loudly wearing rainbow flag accessories.)

And now... I look at my life and realize, I'm actually stealth at work, stealth in public, my gf often forgets I'm trans until I mention it, and I just live the normal, everyday life of a girl. Every single day. My trans-ness has taken a backseat to my womanhood.

I share all this not to brag, but to encourage the rest of you - you all can experience this. It's been a long, hard journey. But it's absolutely achievable. You can be you. And don't let society or anyone else tell you that you can't.

I'm happy to chat in the comments if people have questions. I love you all and care about you all. You deserve happiness, even during these dark and scary times. We will find it. And we will succeed, as we have so many times before.

Spoiler: 2 months ago: "Being trans is incredibly frustrating. (Some politics)

I came out ~3.5 years ago.

I basically lost everything. Not as bad as some, but I lost a lot.

My wife of 12 years left me 2 years ago. I grieve her EVERY day. A picture of her can still make me break down in inconsolable tears. This also meant selling the house, not seeing her family anymore (whom I loved with all my heart), giving up our savings and plans for the future (we both make good money and were on track to retire early and own multiple houses).

My family became weird with me. I chose to cut many of them off.

I've realized how difficult some of my friends can be. I've had to revisit my relationships with many of them.

I now live in a smaller house that costs the same, but on basically a single income, I've met a new partner who I love dearly, I've made some new friends, and I'm rebuilding my finances.

For my transition, I've been on hormones the whole time, I'm fully out, my name is changed everywhere, I've had FFS and GCS, and I pass 100%. Hell, not just pass; I'm downright hot!!

That's a LOT, right? A lot to deal with. A lot to live through. A lot to manage. But that's where it stops, right? I did it! I'm out, I'm living my life, I pass.

Wrong.

The government wants to take it all from me. My partner and I rushed into marriage because we're afraid of losing that right. I'm covering my tracks as much as possible in medical systems, HOPING I can hide that I'm trans, so MAYBE I can keep my hormones. Idk how long my back stock of that will last. Luckily they probably can't reverse my surgeries, right?

But they're talking about reversing birth certificates, already tried to do that with passports, and will probably come for drivers licenses soon enough. I'm worried about being force-outed at work, which would leave all the bigots misgendering me I'm sure. Not to mention the implications of just using the bathroom or a spa.

I live in a blue state and I'm still concerned about these things.

It all just makes me so mad. Being trans is HARD and society is already so difficult about it. You lose so much. And then we have to deal with these bigots in the government? I'm watching what's happening in the UK and absolutely horrified that such a small group of idiots hold so much power, and it's happening here too.

We don't deserve any of this. Nobody deserves this.

I'm a hard-working, upstanding member of society. I own a home, have friends, participate in the local economy, I vote, and I never break the law. I've been told my whole life this is all we have to do and then we'll be set.

And it was all a lie.

And now we're here. Fighting every day, just to slow down the gradual stripping of our rights. When I just wanna be happy and live.

And I'm pissed.

I feel so sad for his first wife. Another trans-widow.

 

[The Morning Visitor]

I have a pondering that crossed my mind. It's not actually about trannydom but it's relating to the logic and reasoning behind their supporters with which many of you have no doubt argued on various social media platforms.

My wonderment relates to taxpayer funded insurance covering gender affirming care, and when you say you don't want your tax dollars to go towards chopping a kid's nuts off, they say "that almost never happens" (almost doing some heavy lifting) and that you need to "educate yourself on what gender affirming care usually entails for minors". Do they honestly think that everyone just takes issue with literal genital mutilation, that this isn't a deeper battle regarding giving in to childish tantrums, and that if they can explain that basically no one is offered the Jazz Jennings special, everything they want will magically be agreeable with the public?

Does it occur to none of them that the general public is opposed to giving kids a choice? Not just in cosmetic surgery but also in unnecessary changes to growth and development? Are they aware of this ideological struggle on some level and purposefully ignore it, or is it something most of them have never considered?

 

[bouquetnine]

Does it occur to none of them that the general public is opposed to giving kids a choice? Not just in cosmetic surgery but also in unnecessary changes to growth and development? Are they aware of this ideological struggle on some level and purposefully ignore it, or is it something most of them have never considered?

It's not about ideological consistency. Even their supporters are a tiny minority. The goal is inverting reality and humiliating the public. If they can force you to say the Emperor has a beautiful new outfit, what else can they do?

 

[Big Shot]

90% of the posts on troon and poon subreddits saying "I've known I was a troon/poon since X years ago" date back to the 2020/2021 lockdowns. I wonder whether a conclusion can be made from this

 

[Stabby_Pencil]

90% of the posts on troon and poon subreddits saying "I've known I was a troon/poon since X years ago" date back to the 2020/2021 lockdowns. I wonder whether a conclusion can be made from this

We all knew a lot of them transitioned from boredom during the lockdowns.

 

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