Greer v. Moon, No. 20-cv-00647 (D. Utah Sep. 16, 2020)

[Sexy Senior Citizen]

Impromptu poll time! What will be in Russell's late, AI generated response?

• I move to undo the thing that was already undone
• Rule in my favor and give me money
• muh plights

 

[Greasy Goblin]

I'm cautiously optimistic that this is what's finally going to put this case out of it's (and our) misery. Failing to show cause when explicitly ordered to by the judge seems like it would be one of those red lines that absolutely should never be crossed. However, it seems like Russ has absolutely tap danced right over several of those and gotten away with it. I do hope that His Royal Hardship's most recent filing reminding the court of just how many breaks and chances they have generously given Russhole on just the restraining order thing alone will help show the judge that their generosity is wasted and it is time to abort this case.

So in the last month the judge says "explain why you shouldn't receive case ending sanctions" and so Greer decides to:

• Go off tangent and claim he's owed money, putting in more effort on this than complying with the judge's order
• Instruct witnesses not to comply with subpoena, and provide proof that he did this (by mistake)
• Claim that a previous lawsuit to was only filed for 'publicity'
• Refuse to provide addresses for witnesses to be deposed
• Removes all witnesses, including himself, from being able to testify
• Proceeds to provide a real address, finally, only once he thinks money is coming
• The address isn't even in Utah, while needing to be in Utah was presumably one of the reasons the case is even here to begin with

Am I seeing this right? Rate me but I think it's over lmao

 

[goblin enby]

Hardin only bringing the show cause order to Russell's attention 1 day before it was due means a late response is excusable neglect. As the neutral third party, Hardin was under an obligation to notify Russell of this in a much more timely manner and failed to do so.

 

[Useful_Mistake]

ECF 366

This is for Rule 11, not for the TRO thing

 

[Hunter Hearst Helmsley]

White v. General Motors Corp., 908 F.2d 675, 682(10th Cir. 1990), held that a reasonable pre-filing inquiry and good-faith belief are enough toavoid sanctions. Rule 11 simply does not reach inadvertent or imprecise phrasing made in goodfaith.

reasonable pre-filing inquiry and

If verifying life is not a part of reasonable inquiry, what in the world would be? I can't imagine any other potential bare minimum. Verify at least that the person ever existed?

Sanctioning statements covered by this privilege would invert its purpose—punishing the very candor the doctrine exists to foster. Applying Rule 11 to privileged statements would therefore chill participation, particularly for pro se litigants like plaintiff, whose ability to “ Plaintiff’s sanctioned statements—made in motions, grounded in case issues, and clearly within the scope of judicial privilege—cannot serve as a lawful basis for sanctions.

Whose ability to...?

The selective nature of the present sanction is further underscored by how other courts—both in Utah and across the Tenth Circuit—have declined to punish far more forceful conduct when undertaken in good faith. Rule 11 is reserved for clear abuses, not for debatable or unpopular positions advanced in the course of legitimate litigation.

Hi, ChatGPT!

 

[Accept Only Substitutes]

I see Russ STILL doesn't understand that in a lawsuit the other side is entitled to actually talk to his witnesses to discover what they are going to be witnessing to.

Russ just skipped all the lectures on discovery, what happens in that phase, why it's important, and so on.

What a retard.

 

[obsdj]

ECF 366

No show-cause filing, huh? Maybe he really did "assume" that the other order was a duplicate again.

At any rate, we shouldn't be surprised because objecting to the Magistrate (i.e. running and telling Daddy District Judge) worked for him before.

 

[Throwing Romans]

ECF 366
Wyświetl załącznik 8039444
This is for Rule 11, not for the TRO thing

Every single one of his case citations easily argues against the exact shit he's arguing. Amazing cherrypicking AI did for him. He didn't do any investigation on his assertions.

 

[Lian Xing]

ECF 366

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[obsdj]

Speaking of what happened before, when Greer objected and Daddy District Judge came through for him and reduced the sanction, I'm sure we all remember that Barlow failed to follow procedure and allow Hardin to reply prior to making his ruling. (Hardin preserved his objection at ECF 231.) I hope this time Hardin heads that off at the pass, and files a motion to submit a reply -- since, if I recall correctly, he's not actually allowed to just file a reply unless Barlow tells him to?

 

[CapricornusRex]

Tard Judo is the art of tard wrangling the judge who is tard wrangling shitlips.

Vale Tardo.

 

[Bogliacci]

He's just given up and will just be using AI slop from now on I guess. sad...

 

[FamicomGorby]

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Why is Greee manually creating lists?

He writes these on his phone.

Apparently Greer's dad was the person CC'd on the last email Hardin sent Greer about the restraining order. Hardin somehow "intimidating" Greer or probably just a mistake since he might have been CC'd in the chain at some point?

 

[DavidS877]

I'm not a Federal Judge, but I have to think that citing Utah state court cases for precedent in a federal copyright case about a sanction based on the Federal Rules just because the courthouse is in Utah is going to get the AI any points here.

 

[obsdj]

"Not intended to imply current contact"?



Au contraire, Dipshitforlips! In ECF 123, you specifically stated that your witnesses ARE eager to testify! Present tense!



Forgive me, I'm usually a good Kiwi who thumbnails, but the forum is not letting me, probably due to ongoing issues.
Edited to fix full-size images hopefully.

 

[reptile baht spaniard rid]

I'm not a Federal Judge, but I have to think that citing Utah state court cases for precedent in a federal copyright case about a sanction based on the Federal Rules just because the courthouse is in Utah is going to get the AI any points here.

The south didn't rebel and win just to have federal courts override state ones, nigger.

Learn your alternate ChatGreeeTalkingPoints history!

 

[break these cuffs]

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To have somewhere to put all the people he wants to kill.

 

[LiquidChrisRespecter]

God, he's trying the "it's just my opinion" defence again.

You can have whatever opinions you like, but when you assert them as fact in a court filing, you need to be able to substantiate them. Especially when you've been told multiple times that you're dead fucking wrong and you can't make any assertion regarding the SPO if you literally refuse to read it.

The trauma lumps have gotta be forming about now. He still hasn't gotten to the best (and most urgent) part of the docket!

 

[Harvey Danger]

ECF 366
Wyświetl załącznik 8039444
This is for Rule 11, not for the TRO thing

That's our boy, Undoing The Thing That Was Just Did instead of doing the thing that was just due.

Let's see how it works out this time.

 

[Mussolini’s Merkin]

Well the mystery of the CC’ed email complaint has been solved.


$250? Greee, you little worm.


These ChatGPT filings are almost unreadable, they lack the flowing plightprose I have so come to enjoy from Greee.