- Dołączono
- 1 Mar 2020
The best efforts they can muster at destablizing the greatest superpower on the planet is to send in a homeless-looking retard raving in beanspeak into NYC where he would surely stand out from the rest of the schizo hobos
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- Dołączono
- 2 Cze 2017
I know that this is a question outside the purview of the theoretical conflict in general, but is there a single South American government that doesn't have weak political institutions that can turn into dictatorships on a dime?
- Dołączono
- 17 Gru 2019
The closest would be Colombia.
For better or for worse.
- Dołączono
- 7 Kwi 2019
No, they’re all fucked due to the legacy of Spanish and Portuguese colonial governments.
And mental retardation.
- Dołączono
- 13 Gru 2022
nah they don't have nukes.
all countries that have political sway have at least one of the things because they can always threaten to shoot it if some kike tries a color revolution, NK being what it is instead of the trash that SK is tells alot about having a nuke.
colombia isn't that strategic, china has been moving hard to buy brazil with lula's support, if the rumors of a potential taiwan attack are true then this means TW was traded for Venezuela since TW's only crutch was the chip fabs that are being built in the US too, i wonder if maduro will die like saddam or escobar? or like bin laden?
- Dołączono
- 7 Kwi 2019
NK is a shitty hermit kingdom that exists to worship a fat king.
This makes absolutely zero sense, China is not in any position nor will they make any move to get involved in Venezuela, nor will Brazil.
- Dołączono
- 17 Gru 2019
That was not the question I answered.
The question is which, if any, South American country is insulted from becoming a dictatorship at the drop of a dime.
- Dołączono
- 13 Gru 2022
depends on whose country wants to start a color revolution to dunk their monetary stability, thus reducing importing prices of raw materials, kinda like africa but speaking funny.
i wonder if france still pissed about maduro and his moves towards the guyanas over that oil pocket now that i remembered about it.
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- 9 Lut 2022
Possibly Chile, Uruguay or Costa Rica? They're the most stable out of the countries in this region. Argentina is fucked up (Peronism has a serious chance of coming back and undoing all the good Milei did) but they're so traumatized by their military regime that I find another one highly unlikely. Colombia... idk, I mean, Petro has been a lolcow but he isn't a dictator, if anything their main danger would be the guerrillas and cartels controlling the government.
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- 13 Gru 2022
- Dołączono
- 9 Lut 2022
For those who still believe Maduro is somehow popular and people are willing to defend him, here's a survey (made by the state-controlled VTV channel), it's in Spanish but basically what it says is around 79% of people support a foreign military intervention. It's 8 years old, but really, Maduro's popularity hasn't increased at all. If anything he's even less popular.
And if you know Spanish you'll get a couple good laughs because they're trying so hard to damage control and claim "nono it's not right!"
sorry for double posting
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- Dołączono
- 17 Gru 2019
The fact that Colombia has not gone full dictatorship to remove the above elements is why I singled Colombia out as the least likely.
Colombia did do Right Wing Death Squads for a lil bit, unfortunately all the RWDS decided that being a cartel was more profitable
Plantain Man is an unpopular lolcow but "bro we'd totes support foreign intervention!" sounds like State Department propaganda
- Dołączono
- 3 Maj 2024
The price on Maduro's head just doubled.
The two US senators from Florida presented the “Stop Maduro Act” (the law to stop Nicolás Maduro) to double the reward for the capture of the Chavista leader to 100 million dollars, in addition to the “BOLIVAR Act”, which would prohibit business with companies linked "to the regime".
The first initiative would double the offer of President Donald Trump's government, which in August already doubled to 50 million dollars the reward for Maduro's arrest, which exceeds the money offered by the late Al-Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden.
The proposal by Florida Senators Rick Scott and Ashley Moody indicates that the State Department "could pay such a reward to one or more individuals who provide information that directly leads to Maduro's arrest and any sentencing in any country for specific narcotics-related crimes".
The initiative would also require that any payment come from the liquidation of assets that Washington has confiscated from Maduro, his "regime" and accomplices, since the Department of Justice confiscated more than $700 million in assets linked to the official leader, two private planes and nine vehicles.
Senator Moody, who presented the initiative at an event in Doral, a city in South Florida with the largest concentration of Venezuelans in the US. The US framed the proposal within the fight against the "narcoterrism" of the Government, which accuses Maduro of leading the Cartel of the Suns.
"Narcoterrorism is a war against our country, our children, and law and order. These terrorists smuggle overwhelming quantities of legal drugs into our country and sell this poison that destabilizes our communities", he argued at an event with city leaders.
On the other hand, Moody highlighted that the “BOLIVAR Act”, whose acronym in Spanish means "prohibit operations and contracts with the illegitimate Venezuelan authoritarian regime" would veto contracts by US Government agencies with companies that "do business with the Maduro regime".
The initiatives are also co-sponsored by Senator Ted Cruz of Texas and Senator Marsha Blackburn of Tennessee, all of whom are from the Republican Party.
These proposals come as the US military deployment in the Caribbean intensifies, where US authorities sank four vessels awarded to drug trafficking near the Venezuelan coast, leaving at least 17 dead.
The first initiative would double the offer of President Donald Trump's government, which in August already doubled to 50 million dollars the reward for Maduro's arrest, which exceeds the money offered by the late Al-Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden.
The proposal by Florida Senators Rick Scott and Ashley Moody indicates that the State Department "could pay such a reward to one or more individuals who provide information that directly leads to Maduro's arrest and any sentencing in any country for specific narcotics-related crimes".
The initiative would also require that any payment come from the liquidation of assets that Washington has confiscated from Maduro, his "regime" and accomplices, since the Department of Justice confiscated more than $700 million in assets linked to the official leader, two private planes and nine vehicles.
Senator Moody, who presented the initiative at an event in Doral, a city in South Florida with the largest concentration of Venezuelans in the US. The US framed the proposal within the fight against the "narcoterrism" of the Government, which accuses Maduro of leading the Cartel of the Suns.
"Narcoterrorism is a war against our country, our children, and law and order. These terrorists smuggle overwhelming quantities of legal drugs into our country and sell this poison that destabilizes our communities", he argued at an event with city leaders.
On the other hand, Moody highlighted that the “BOLIVAR Act”, whose acronym in Spanish means "prohibit operations and contracts with the illegitimate Venezuelan authoritarian regime" would veto contracts by US Government agencies with companies that "do business with the Maduro regime".
The initiatives are also co-sponsored by Senator Ted Cruz of Texas and Senator Marsha Blackburn of Tennessee, all of whom are from the Republican Party.
These proposals come as the US military deployment in the Caribbean intensifies, where US authorities sank four vessels awarded to drug trafficking near the Venezuelan coast, leaving at least 17 dead.
LATE UPDATE: America is ready to churro Maduro
The USAF has been upgrading the airfield at Ceibu as well.
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- Dołączono
- 9 Lut 2022
Yes I know it looks crazy if you don't live here, but a military intervention is widely supported by most people, you'd need to get on Venezuelan social media to see it, there's a good amount of memes asking for an intervention. Just keep in mind, many don't really understand what it would entail, many people aren't really angry at Maduro's (or rather Chavez') shitty socialist policies, instead being mad because he stopped giving gibs or greatly reduced them and would expect getting gibs again (as I said, ignorance is rampant, but considering how milquetoast our "opposition" is, I wouldn't get surprised if they returned the gibs despite having no money therefore printing machine goes brrrrrrr).
Many are simply people on "survival mode" so it's not like they have time to think, they're worried about getting food or water or shelter so if you ask some homeless guy who got evicted and barely lives from day to day if he wants Maduro to get churroed, of course "Maduro, the guy who ran the country while you were starving, will get churroed and replaced" sounds enticing.
Do I support an intervention? Yes, it's the shittiest solution but it's the only realistic way we'll get rid of the Chavistas. The army is useless and controlled by cartel members, and the "opposition" has no guns to fight, protests have been tried again and again and again and all we get is death. There's at least some chance we'll get a better government if we get a democracy again, slim as it is, but zero chance we'll get a good government if we keep the chavista regime so I'll just take the scenario with the tiniest possibility of improvement over the scenario with no chances at all.
Even then I find the Maduro churroing intervention unlikely. I think the likeliest scenario is this being a nothingburger, and the next likeliest scenario would be Chavismo fragmentation, some military higher-ups give in Maduro, Diosdado and Padrino, maybe they symbolically let Edmundo Gonzalez assume the presidency but in reality the de facto power still resides in the military and basically not much changes other than being friendly to the USA now.
If Maduro and the whole of Chavismo do get churroed, I still think the system we have in place (which right now is a weird corporate oligarchy, as I said in an earlier post, Maduro reversed the most extreme socialist policies by Chavez, and that's why we're slightly better now than in 2017 and now the issue is extreme inequality rather than scarcity) wouldn't change much, probably the authoritarian and militaristic elements get toned down and replaced by globohomo, and maybe they try and give out more gibs, which would likely ruin the economy even more. Of course, if chavismo doesn't get banned, it has a serious chance of coming back in that scenario after winning an election, because most people here have the memory of a goldfish.
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- 3 Maj 2024
- Dołączono
- 18 Lip 2017
This assumes Venezuela has competent air defense capability. You should obviously assume they do, but its a big assumption. Seeing the state of most of their army, handing live AA missiles too the troops would be more dangerous too their own aircraft and civilians then the US military
- Dołączono
- 3 Maj 2024
Maduro is so afraid of being churroed that he offered Trump all the swamp sludge they call oil there as well as kicking out all the Russians and Chinese businesses. Trump said, "lol, no".
Source: https://www.nytimes.com/2025/10/10/world/americas/maduro-venezuela-us-oil.html
Maduro knows the churroing is coming soon.
I'd post the videos of the Venezuelan UN ambassador talking at the Security Council but it's the typical "boohoo, they blew up our fishermen and we're just a poor innocent country." bullshit.
Source: https://www.nytimes.com/2025/10/10/world/americas/maduro-venezuela-us-oil.html
Maduro knows the churroing is coming soon.
I'd post the videos of the Venezuelan UN ambassador talking at the Security Council but it's the typical "boohoo, they blew up our fishermen and we're just a poor innocent country." bullshit.
- Dołączono
- 17 Gru 2019
Trump might be expecting Plantain Man to post proofs that he's gonna actually open up the jungle sludge and kick Chicoms out, and not just reneg the second Trump tells the Jarheads to stand down.
- Dołączono
- 26 Wrz 2024
I don't think they felt the same way when they were gearing up to invade Guyana. I find it equally funny too because Guyana is a country known for its socialist history, and government, (it's literally called the Co-operative Republic of Guyana), but commies defended Venezuela trying to overthrow them for their oil.
- Dołączono
- 3 Maj 2024
Commies in the US support Venezuela because Chavez was one of the few socialist leaders in the Americas and he stood up to Bush twenty years ago. There was also that Bolivian guy they loved because he didn't allow Nestle to take all the water in Bolivia. They don't give a shit about Guyana because they don't know anything about it or can point it out on a map.