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There is little doubt that Charlie Kirk was a paid Israeli agent, or at the very least a paid propagandist. Looks like he was having a change of heart. Or maybe realized his current model was unsustainable when even the majority on the right wasn’t buying it anymore.

There is no doubt, after Trumps own words and others at his Memorial, that Charlie was also working with/in our Government.

Isn’t it funny that our President and Government used millions of Americans tax dollars to fly his body home on Goverment planes. And everything they did at the memorial. Did you hear Trump was the one that arranged for the use of the Stadium. They already had another event there and he got it cancelled.

Something is really off about TPUSA, their many offshoots, especially the Church branch and how that all tied into the 501C3.


Some people might be ok with this, and that’s fine. But I know if this was all for Hasan Piker, I would be having certain feeling and thoughts, and none of them would be good. Kinda like the thoughts I’m having now about Charlie Kirk and TPUSA. If it were Hasan Piker, I would be calling for a in-depth investigation into his business, finances and especially, the 501C3 and how all of this ties into Trump, his campaign and our Government.
George Floyd was working for Israel too. Its weird how only their agents cause a political issue when they die while good God fearing Americans deaths get swept under the rug.
 
As to the hollyhands kid. Couple things, his dad and grandpa got rich building section 8 housing all over the south. Disgusting fucking trash getting rich off of bioterrorism. And he had neocon house nigger brandon tatum shilling for the little vat grown lindsey graham clone.

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Let's take a peek at one of his other tweets, just for grins.
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Oh, so Tucker hosting Charlie's show, and tucker speaking at charlie's funeral.. what was that you fat faggot?
 
They can't try and co-opt "laughing at the enemy" because MAGA has been doing it for the past 2 years. With ease.

And every attempt at laughing will be met with a blank stare or dismissal, likely with making fun of the liberal, so they will resort to name calling and all the mean attacks they pretend conservatives use.

A good example of this:

Savannah Hernandez was at Portland ICE and there was this Antifa cosplayer (looks like she's a well off spoiled brat just wanting to be with the "cool kids") with who seems to be her boyfriend who were just harassing her, but relying on just the most cringe high school insults like saying she's fat (she's not) and that her breath smelled (to which she reverses it on him easily because he was wearing a mask). This is all they have.

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And the good news is that bitch was the same one who got maced in the face and acted like she was shot:

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But this is all they have, because they won't be able to attempt the shitposting the right does daily.
So I hate to defend the lib bitch in this case but uh.. why exactly was she maced? I can barely make out what she's saying
 
George Floyd set the precedent and id like to think most reasonable people consider Charlie much less problematic even if they disagree with his viewpoints and opinions

No, I think patriotic Americans, like me, think that a traitor is worse than an ideological enemy. I think that Churches and Activists, skirting laws, integrity and morals, not to mention selling out the American people for a foreign country and cause and their religious 501C3s illegally mudding elections, gaslighting and manipulating their followers is much worse, but that’s just me.

I would argue what Charlie Kirk did was much more insidious than George Floyd, who was a violent drug addicted criminal. In 20 years, I suspect he would have been a traitor to those young men in the same vein as Jordan Peterson.

Some people want to be lied to, you can see this on the left and the right. They just want their side to win or be right. They want someone to tell them what to do or think and what is right or wrong. It doesn’t matter if they themselves become the very thing they hate and rebel against. If their Leaders are the same level of liars, crooks and grifters as the other sides. We can see here and on other social media how they’re don’t care when it’s their preferred person or their side. Lots and lots of illegal and immoral things get excused if you like the person doing them.

I don’t accept foreign money from Iran being paid to our Government, Lobbying or their paid talking heads, like Hassan. I don’t accept it from “my side” or Israel either. This isn’t a hard concept. I’m America first. Only America.
 
I would argue what Charlie Kirk did was much more insidious than George Floyd, who was a violent drug addicted criminal. In 20 years, I suspect he would have been a traitor to those young men in the same vein as Jordan Peterson.
Kirk was shockingly consistent in his beliefs for basically the entire time he was in the public eye, can you explain to me what you're on about like i'm 5 years old?
 
ConInc. Kirk replacement gets assblasted by Gen Z men, they just want the faggotry to stop. You can see him short out in real time:
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And in Germany, liberal woman gets the results she is in denial about. Did you have "several men" on your new euphemism sheet?

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this is a super weird case. when i read the headline i first assumed that it was either some chud trying to take out a leftoid, or some shitskin doing random violence and hitting a politician by accident, but neither of those seem to be what happened here.

quick rundown:
>police sources say that evidence is pointing towards a 'personal background'
>she has been a victim of domestic violence in the past - the perpetrator was her 17 year old adopted daughter lol
>said adopted daughter has been arrested and is currently in police custody, along with the 15 year old adopted son
source (in german)

i have no idea what to make of this.
 
Kirk was shockingly consistent in his beliefs for basically the entire time he was in the public eye, can you explain to me what you're on about like in 5 years old?
Charlie Kirk was practically Ned Flanders, all the leftists foaming at the mouth over his murder just further shows that anyone to the right of Stalin is fair game to these absolute lunatics.
 
Violent Portland terrorist group Rose City Antifa was founded by Johan Victorin and Caroline Victorin (née Gauld). The two fled to Europe. An independent journalist named Christian Peterson located them in Varberg, Sweden.

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That nigger needs to be brought back to the US and executed live, come on Trump we need the killing of the heads of terrorism (live).


Talk about conspiracy theories. Representative Anna Paulina Luna, says there WAS foreign money, but get this. Is wasn’t Israel, even though we have actual video evidence of Charlie’s own words and letters proving he was talking money from Israel and Israeli donors (kinda like Anna Paulina Luna) Nope, it was China. Did China kill Charlie lol

It also appears that the message chain Candace shared, where Charlie spoke harshly of Jews and how they’re every stereotype, was indeed real.
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Charlie being killed by the symptoms of societal degeneracy (his murderer was a furry troon chaser and probably a tranny himself) is far more encompasing and powerful than trying to pin it to a country for literally 0 gain, even if you hate Israel or China or whatever, the fact of the matter is that he got killed by a zoophilic troon chaser porn addict and so we need to stop the degeneracy that creates these men in the first place and that is nuking discord, TTD and chuck furfaggots in a gas chamber, oh and crackdown on teachers since they also engage on that.

Look at it this way, not only degeneracy groomed this young lad to be that way, essentially taking away a son from a nice conservative family it also, literally, took away a father from a nice conservative family; cracking down on that will also take power away from whoever foreing power is messing with the US since they use porn and grooming as a weapon to spread destructive ideas.
 
he took his birthright trip to israel during his early 20s but i haven't heard a word out of him about israel since then. dude is just the most anti-immigrant pro-european jew i've ever seen in my life. not a single word about israel/gaza/hamas, just "i hate immigrants and i want them all OUT". that rare 0.000001% of joos that are actually good people. and he's fucking good at it too.
I mean to be fair if I was Jewish and got a free trip to Israel.. shit I'm taking it. free trip, food, lodging? that's a good deal.
 
Its crazy how many times this has been litigated over, and over. The melting pot meme. The "I'm with you on illegal immigration." I thought this shit was dead, but the zombie just keeps popping up. The "we can't have no legal immigration so we need more".

How about not more immigration or no immigration, but less immigration. Especially less third-world immigration.

The false dichotomy kills me.
I think we're well past less immigration. Now it's remigration, regardless of what kind of paperwork they have, what multiple choice citizenship test they passed, or where their mother shit out her anchor baby.
 
I would argue what Charlie Kirk did was much more insidious than George Floyd, who was a violent drug addicted criminal. In 20 years, I suspect he would have been a traitor to those young men in the same vein as Jordan Peterson.
You: "The Fanfiction I made in my head justifies the assassination of a Father in front of his children by a Troon fucker because..........uh......he'd totally do this thing that uh......I don't have evidence or a historical trend or a throughline for but uh....."

Can you go back to your Discord groyper? Intellectual thought and having the memory retention above a goldfish is clearly a bar too high for you.

For anyone that has a brain and wants to know why Groypers are STILL assblasted about Charlie it is because Charlie is the successful non-gay version of everything Nick pretends to be:
If you think about it the greatest enemy to Nick is Charlie Kirk.
He is for all intents and purposes a more successful version of himself when you look at what both proposed and say they are working for you can see the true dichotomy between a failure and a successful person.

1. Make Zoomers and Younger generations more right-wing.

2. Build a political alternative to Neocons, with political power to back up the organization.​

3. Shift the Overton window to the right while embracing the left and showing their worldview

Nick:​

  • Co-ops America first during 2010's and builds an online only audience along the new right wing.
  • Sides with people like The Right Stuff .biz people and starts to push holocaust revisionism, when that was the hot topic of the day. (Cookie Monster baking cookies).
  • With the same people he sided with promotes very clear honeypots like Charlottesville and J6, conveniently never facing any prosecution during this time when rightwingers all over the nation where hounded by the federal and judicial system. (Especially in the later example as he is on video telling people to storm the capital and be violent).
  • Builds his image being the """young people's""" voice while everyone else is old.
    • Whenever he sees someone as a challenge to his """young""" persona, he attacks them relentlessly, attempting to destroy their career before it gets started. Much like he attempted to do with Charlie during the big Groyper attack on him during his early days.
  • His presence is completely online and encourages people to not make political inroads or gains, to instead just shill his show online, circle-jerk, crab in the bucket mentality, and join the cult. As that is the real way you make change in the world behind your computer, yelling at mixed-race children for their existence and warding off non-whites from having a political awakening to the right-wing.
  • Is only brought up by CNN, MSNBC, and other left-leaning media as a bad example of the right, he is never thought of as relevant to anyone on the right except by his fans or when people on the right give him a shot, thinking he was blacklisted wrongl,y only to be backstabbed later.

Charlie:​

  • Creates multiple chapters across colleges and now high schools for students to join a young people-oriented right-wing political group IRL.
  • Creates multiple jobs and careers across the nation in a self-funded and constantly growing political hydra organization with boots on the ground to counterbalance left-wing organizations like Antifa on campus.
  • Builds a massive billion-plus views TikTok and social media presence, normalizing right-wing ideas and challenging the sacred cows of the left.
    • This becomes such a success it encourages multiple people and influencers to try their hand at it. Further pushing the Overton window and exposing the left's worldview as silly.
  • Is, so successful that he is thought of as a threat to democracy and needs to be propagandized against, (Like the recent South Park episode. Or Gaven Newscum's failed podcast showed).
  • Allows for multiple worldviews in a big tent rightwing while recognizing and encouraging the shift towards the right.
    • You can see this with his personal views on Israel being more Evangelical but allowing and encouraging anti-Israel conversations in his organization and promoting their ideas and criticism as valid. (See Tucker Carlson at his giant events and the video below.)
  • His political campaigning during the 2024 election was credited as one of the largest factors getting Trump's win in PA, (they had people go out to Amish and campaign to them directly, which the Amish were the factor that pushed him over the line) and multiple locations around the country.
  • Has multiple political connections from local elections, senators, governors, and all the way up to the President. Having direct conversations with powerful politicians and getting the messaging out there when deviations from Trump's promises start to be made in the House and Senate. (Example the Dignity Act [Video below] and the push to make Trump not deport farm slaves...I mean illegals. And his direct calls with Trump's team to get him back on track.)
  • Working with people like Steve Bannon, Tucker Carlson, and others to build lasting media presence and to be a filter for all of the new Right wing politicians have to be put through to gain public support. Which continues to shift the Overton window.
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Lastly, a Tldr example of impact

All of this and more can be said about Nick v Charlie. But a great example is looking and judging people on their fruits is Matt Walsh v Nick.

(His entire life) Nick has done nothing but hurt and abuse his supporters and people that give him a chance with backstabbing.

(In just 2023) Matt Walsh, while being less popular than both Charlie and Nick, made true impacts politically and legislatively in his home state of Tennessee by banning the practice of Child sex change due to his campaigning and pushing this to the national level.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=F_sgq9cd9ekhttps://youtube.com/watch?v=l7eDnPRQHq4
 
Some country singer is getting hate for singing a song that is ‘anti-ICE’ called The fading of the Red White and Blue

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Zach Bryan
IRL, plenty of my conservative (you know the type, Baptist, rednecks, working in construction/welding/HVAC) friends do like Zach Bryan. Either this is AI (which COULD be, I don't trust any leaks unless they come out officially), or the dude actually shot himself in the foot, cause his base is conservative.
 
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