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Should be a wild four years.

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Yeah, I think it's too early to know whom exactly will come out on top. But I would agree that Pritzker cold be a contender, because of his wealth. He's already been constantly positioning himself as a vocal Trump critic, so it would seem likely he would like to take on the next GOP candidate for president.
He's definitely gonna run. But he'll get demolished by Newsom, as he has no rizz and is profoundly ugly. This was revealed to me by premonition.


It's not even just Germany. We do a fuck ton for most of the world in regards to humanitarian shit and we get nothing but bullshit and harassment in return from most of our "allies". I'd be 100% for us going back to pre-WW2 "fuck off we're taking a nap" mode and letting the rest of the world sort their shit out until we had to come back and stop the kids from fighting again in a few decades if we had the Self-sustainability to do it.
America has been the western worlds defacto piggybank and military daddy for longer than most of the people on this forum have even been alive.

It's become so ingrained in the minds of people on both ends as "normal" that the people receiving those benefits openly shit-talk and condescend to the people funding half their military and social programs, and the people in the US whose pockets are being raped by taxes to pay for it think that stopping said funding is evil and immoral on the US's part.

The "screw this bullshit you guys need to actually start paying your fair share, no more fucking gibs" attitude has become more and more mainstream as of recently, but it's still met with resistance by the two aforementioned groups.
The Greatest Generation's fixation on the Cold War put us in this position. For a long time, the US and USSR competed to collect third-world countries into their second-world coteries of satellite states. This set up a dynamic where we send ingrates money, food, and guns in exchange for nothing. And after the Cold War, we never stopped doing this. They call it "soft power" but really they should call it patronage in reverse, or parasitism.
 
For a long time, the US and USSR competed to collect third-world countries into their second-world coteries of satellite states. This set up a dynamic where we send ingrates money, food, and guns in exchange for nothing. And after the Cold War, we never stopped doing this. They call it "soft power" but really they should call it patronage in reverse, or parasitism.
It doesn't even end up paying off for anyone but the members of leach state's government and incentivizes not only never fixing their shit but manufacturing/denying fixing shit just to get more gibs.

Look at that fat bitch down in PR refusing to send out supplies given to her to her people to demand more money for hurricane relief.
 
One of the worst things to happen to the US was to get to 50 states. People are so obsessed with round numbers that they’ll never bring themselves to shave off one or two even though it would make everyone else a fuck of a lot happier.
You could split California into Coastal California and Sane California, ditch the former and still have 50 states.

(Though West Viriginia is not and never has been legally a state.)
 
I want the Republicans to willingly secede California from the union and have it become its own communist country. Once the American commies inevitably move in, freeing the sane people from their nonsense, all we have to do is wall off Commiefornia immediately and wait 50 years. Nobody is allowed to immigrate from Commiefornia to the US this entire period, and the US will instantly start bombing and shelling if they ever implement non-communist policies. They'll have 20 revolutions (every time ending up in exactly in the same place where they started because commies are genuinely retarded) and 100 different dictators before they all starve to death, and then the real America finally marches in and liberates them. Then, we laugh at the now-geriatric, anorexic commies that somehow lived who are finally back and passionately kissing capitalist soil. (Then we shoot them in the back of the head, considering the only way to survive communism that long is to be some of the most corrupt thieves of them all.)

There's probably be no sweeter punishment for a communist than to give them exactly what they want. But I just wish this was a realistic proposal. They're too hellbent on subverting shit that actually works because in their hearts, they genuinely believe that stealing is justice.
I used to always say that if we took the three States all the way to the left California, Oregon and Washington and just put all of the niggers and their enablers and the loony left into it and completely walled it off. I'm talking complete isolation and make them their own country, you could come back in a generation or two and it would be the most third world fucking shit hole you've ever seen in your life, regardless of the tools and land and infrastructure to manufacture anything they need. It's why they won't go back to Africa.
People like them love to hate on this country but the fact of the matter is all of them are completely addicted to not working. They want handouts and the fact of the matter is if they were in their own little area that was its own country, there wouldn't be enough people paying into welfare for people to receive it. They would completely collapse on themselves.
 
You don't have to be Romney you just can't flagrantly disregard the law at every opportunity. Trump's entire deportation thing could've been done legally but he's retarded and he's surrounded himself with people who hate rule of law and the founding values.
Just becasu you dont like trump being a big meanie does not mean what he is doing is illegal.
The dem candidate will be whoever is most vocally mean to republicans, for now that's Gavin but a bunch of the others will catch on and start calling trump a fat retard around the midterms. It'll be an interesting race assuming the election goes forward.
Are you fucking high? Where do you see dems not insulting trump?
Illegal immigrants are not coming so they can fight you in the street nigger, they're coming because America has a reputation as the greatest, most prosperous and free nation on earth. When trump turns the country into west korea they'll stop even trying
Or they are coming to exploit something that has exploits.I have no doubt there are some good illegals, but that does not warrant mass migration you stinky retard.
I want the Republicans to willingly secede California from the union and have it become its own communist country. Once the American commies inevitably move in, freeing the sane people from their nonsense, all we have to do is wall off Commiefornia immediately and wait 50 years. Nobody is allowed to immigrate from Commiefornia to the US this entire period, and the US will instantly start bombing and shelling if they ever implement non-communist policies. They'll have 20 revolutions (every time ending up in exactly in the same place where they started because commies are genuinely retarded) and 100 different dictators before they all starve to death, and then the real America finally marches in and liberates them. Then, we laugh at the now-geriatric, anorexic commies that somehow lived who are finally back and passionately kissing capitalist soil. (Then we shoot them in the back of the head, considering the only way to survive communism that long is to be some of the most corrupt thieves of them all.)

There's probably be no sweeter punishment for a communist than to give them exactly what they want. But I just wish this was a realistic proposal. They're too hellbent on subverting shit that actually works because in their hearts, they genuinely believe that stealing is justice.
Impossible.That would be a disaster militarily,economically and demographically.If a dem was president, do you think they would allow Texas to leave the union?
 
Mark Bray, the author of The Antifascist's Handbook, has been doxxed and he's fleeing the country since he wants to make sure his book sales money doesn't get seized by Stephen Miller. Bray is considered the leading author of ANTIFA fangirls.

He was pushed out of Dartmouth University because at every level he justifies homicide as a response for all levels of "fascism", and enforces the neboulous-ever-changing definition of fascism to be: whatever anyone wants it to be. He's an adjunct at Rutgers so he's mooching off his fat partner.

Found here
"The Haitian anthropologist Michel-Rolph Trouillot cautions us that “. . . the past does not exist independently from the present . . . The past—or more accurately, pastness—is a position. Thus, in no way can we identify the past as past.” page xii
These niggas don't even believe in time. Even time is a social construct.

"militant anti-fascism is a reasonable, historically informed response to the fascist threat that persisted after 1945" -xii

The working definition of fascism made by Robert Paxton in his work The Anatomy of Fascism, "
". . . a form of political behavior marked by obsessive preoccupation with community decline, humiliation, or victimhood and by compensatory cults of unity, energy, and purity, in which a mass-based party of committed nationalist militants, working in uneasy but effective collaboration with traditional elites, abandons democratic liberties and pursues with redemptive violence and without ethical or legal restraints goals of internal cleansing and external expansion." -xiii-xiv
The problem with this definition is that it is overly broad. Without the words "Nationalist" and "Democratic" this could be a working definition of terrorism or communism or any other political movement that's taken power.

"Yet, even within the Left, debates have raged between many socialist and communist parties, antiracist NGOs, and others who have advocated a legalistic pursuit of antiracist or anti-fascist legislation and those who have defended a confrontational, direct-action strategy of disrupting fascist organizing." -xiv

The word "Action" generally means violence. The next quote is some proof text for that.

"In September (1931), two SA taverns were shot up, resulting in the death of one SA guard. On October 15, the strategy escalated. While a diversionary demonstration was being held a kilometer away, thirty to fifty men started to slowly march toward an SA tavern in the Richardstrasse singing the “Internationale” and shouting “Down with fascism!” Suddenly they stopped, and four or five of them pulled out guns and opened fire on the SA tavern, wounding four and killing the owner, who had joined the NSDAP “for business reasons.” But the action produced a number of arrests, and the SA tavern was up and running again three months later. To the dismay of the military wing of the party, the KPD leadership publicly repudiated such attacks" -23

"At the heart of the anti-fascist outlook is a rejection of the classical liberal phrase incorrectly ascribed to Voltaire that 'I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it.'"
-xv
They don't believe in debate, they don't believe in free speech. They're crazy power hungry communists. Indistinguishable from their own definition of "fascism".

"Thus, anti-fascism is an illiberal politics of social revolutionism applied to fighting the Far Right, not only literal fascists. As we will see, anti-fascists have accomplished this goal in a wide variety of ways, from singing over fascist speeches, to occupying the sites of fascist meetings before they could set up, to sowing discord in their groups via infiltration, to breaking any veil of anonymity, to physically disrupting their newspaper sales, demonstrations, and other activities." -xv
The truth is "the establishment" (Academia, the military-industrial complex, Intelligence agencies, big tech,, zionists, racial greviance mongers, communists, cult leaders, organized crime, and most importantly bankers etc.) through the mainstream media calling people fascists, awaken these mongolids. Then as reward they let them do drugs, commit violence and not get prosecuted, live on welfare etc. This is the establishment's "SA".

how do I know this

"The success or failure of militant anti-fascism often depends on whether it can mobilize broader society to confront fascists, as occurred so famously with London’s 1936 Battle of Cable Street, or tap into wider societal opposition to fascism to ostracize emerging groups and leaders."


Broader society means the elites of their society. This means they have permission to do what they've been doing. They admit it themselves. What are the most important thing to push?

"At the core of this complex process of opinion-making is the construction of societal taboos against racism, sexism, homophobia, and other forms of oppression that constitute the bedrocks of fascism. These taboos are maintained through a dynamic that I call “everyday anti-fascism”

Normalcy is Fascism

Atheist do you understand this is satanic?
 
I assume the main difference between a domestic terror and a foreign terror group is that you can't use military assets against the former because of the posse commitatus act. But I am no lolyer so don't take my word for that.
Tell that to the people at Waco.
Oh wait you can't.
 
HHH and fatpacks should come in and make the counter arguments.
I actually tend to agree with a lot of the mainstream opinions in this thread.
But what makes HHH bad was instead of making a logical argument were he present a thesis and supporting statement for said thesis, he would call trump fat, senile and a pedo. It was bait and weak and after biden it was clearly projection.
What the fuck are you talking about? I've never said anything remotely like that.
 
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He actually did, I remember following it because I was irritated that he announced it and then did nothing for a few days, but eventually he followed through.

President Donald J. Trump Designates Antifa as a Domestic Terrorist Organization​

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I assume the main difference between a domestic terror and a foreign terror group is that you can't use military assets against the former because of the posse commitatus act. But I am no lolyer so don't take my word for that.
Legally no they can't use military for domestic terror. Do they use military intelligence for "domestic" terror groups? Yes they do.
 
The first judge to get arrested for all of this overreach, of which should be the first of many, will be given instant Rosa Parks-esque martyr status. So it needs to be someone harder for dems to defend. A Trump appointee will be seen as “the hero who stood up to the president they have her the job.”
Arrest all of them. All at once. The offending ones, that is. Not literally every judge. Though that would be pretty funny too.

"Pick your Rosa Parks, liberals. You've got plenty of options on today's blotter."
 
I want the Republicans to willingly secede California from the union and have it become its own communist country. Once the American commies inevitably move in, freeing the sane people from their nonsense, all we have to do is wall off Commiefornia immediately and wait 50 years. Nobody is allowed to immigrate from Commiefornia to the US this entire period, and the US will instantly start bombing and shelling if they ever implement non-communist policies. They'll have 20 revolutions (every time ending up in exactly in the same place where they started because commies are genuinely retarded) and 100 different dictators before they all starve to death, and then the real America finally marches in and liberates them. Then, we laugh at the now-geriatric, anorexic commies that somehow lived who are finally back and passionately kissing capitalist soil. (Then we shoot them in the back of the head, considering the only way to survive communism that long is to be some of the most corrupt thieves of them all.)

There's probably be no sweeter punishment for a communist than to give them exactly what they want. But I just wish this was a realistic proposal. They're too hellbent on subverting shit that actually works because in their hearts, they genuinely believe that stealing is justice.
Communists don't want utopia. They are goblins who get off on ruining things that other people care about.
 
Legally no they can't use military for domestic terror. Do they use military intelligence for "domestic" terror groups? Yes they do.
Yeah but didn't they use military equipment at Waco? Like tanks and military grade gas?
Communists don't want utopia. They are goblins who get off on ruining things that other people care about.
"Evil cannot originate new things but only corrupt, distort, and destroy what good has already made."
 
The true privilege on display. The moment he felt threatened he fled the country and traveled halfway around the world for the foreseeable future with full support of his job. All so he can continue saying the "other side" is privileged and encouraging domestic terrorism be carried out by people who lack his privilege. It's astounding.
To me, the worst of shitlibs aren't the violent street mutants who fuck up their lives and bodies so badly they can never have a normal life again, it will always be the wealthy, normal-looking white straight cishet people who encourage all this shit while they live completely normal upper crust lives with marriages and multiple children. The street mutants were mostly normal useful idiots before somebody told them to alienate their families, sterilize themselves, mutilate their bodies, develop 100 sexual fetishes, use all the drugs, and hate anyone healthy.
 
To me, the worst of shitlibs ... will always be the wealthy, normal-looking white straight cishet people who encourage all this shit while they live completely normal upper crust lives with marriages and multiple children.

Yes. I know several of these couples and it's infuriating. It's all luxury beliefs that they can get out at a cocktail party but never need to worry will impact their real lives. When you live in a small college town in Ohio, it's very easy to say "no one is illegal" and that it's wrong to clean up homeless camps. When you're rich enough that you have your own expensive workout room at home and a pool to boot, you don't need to worry about trannies fucking up kids' swimming lessons. When you live in one of the nicest neighborhoods in Chicago it's easy to put on a smug smile and say the city is totally safe and has no need of policing.
 
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