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Should be a wild four years.

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The true privilege on display. The moment he felt threatened he fled the country and traveled halfway around the world for the foreseeable future with full support of his job. All so he can continue saying the "other side" is privileged and encouraging domestic terrorism be carried out by people who lack his privilege. It's astounding.
 
Fuck you for siding with invaders traitor
Illegal immigrants are not coming so they can fight you in the street nigger, they're coming because America has a reputation as the greatest, most prosperous and free nation on earth. When trump turns the country into west korea they'll stop even trying.
What if instead, you hired local and paid your employees what they're worth instead of importing foreign scabs and selling out your own people to save a buck you Jewwy cheapskate?
They are paying what they're worth, it's not much. Reps killed the unions for corpo interests and now you've elected a billionaire because you want to pretend he's a man of the people. It's always been the left position to tax the jews and give YOU the money back to improve YOUR life. Ideally that should be the role of the government, to tardwrangle the depraved corpo ghouls and harness the raw power of free enterprise to redirect its gains to the people. Trump is deregulating so they can pump sewage into your drinking water again, it's been comically retarded and nothing has gotten or will get better.
This has exactly been our policy for fucking years. The american economy is quite literally "this." Demographic replacement and mass immigration has been our policy forever and we need more to beat China?
It'll only work if you do the part where you take the generated profits and disperse them back to Americans. Instead republicans paid by all the corpojews infinitely kick and scream and fight on the taxes until now, decades after fucking everything up, they get the chance to use immigration as a wedge issue as if it hasn't been their fault that the money hasn't gone back to the people.

That's why we should protect them from competing with your brothers and sisters in India.
No, that's why you should be taking some of the profits from the companies that reap all the benefits and use them to turn these low-skill workers into high-skill workers through schooling. Republicans would rather you be poor, stupid and angry at other poor stupid people forever while elon and trump and the entire gaggle of pedophile elites rape your daughters with the promise of a better future if they just bite down a little harder on the pillow
 
Idk why this retard shit keeps going. Google "DO ILLEGALS GET SNAP" the answer is no. Illegal immigrants don't benefit from any of the social programs, but they do pay into them through things like GST. Economically they are a net benefit and basically nobody contests that, obviously that's not the only consideration though.
Tell me you've never had to deal with the consequences of illegal immigrants committing fraud to get access to federal benefits without saying you've never had to deal with those consequences.
 
They're coming because America has a reputation as the greatest, most prosperous and free nation on earth.
lmao looks like someone fell for the propaganda and I'm not talking about the illegals
They're coming because they're jealous of America's wealth and want it for themselves, they're stealing yours and your children's birth right from under your nose and you're too retarded to see it
 
They are paying what they're worth, it's not much.
Now you're just being willfully ignorant.
Reps killed the unions for corpo interests and now you've elected a billionaire because you want to pretend he's a man of the people.
I didn't vote for Trump nor does this have anything to do with the post you're responding to
It's always been the left position to tax the jews and give YOU the money back to improve YOUR life.
I don't need you to "Tax the Jews" on my behalf. Merely getting rid of their scabs would be sufficient thank you very much.
Ideally that should be the role of the government, to tardwrangle the depraved corpo ghouls and harness the raw power of free enterprise to redirect its gains to the people.
Ideally if you operate a business in a specific country the people you hire should be natives there instead of importing foreigners so that you can pay them under the table (Thereby also committing tax fraud)
 
Why are you guys trying to argue with the sonic guy? He's obviously a retarded lefty nigger, and thus his opinions, goals, dreams hell, is entire existence is worthless.

Do like me and put some autistic sticker without reading.
Back in the chamber triangle man
lmao looks like someone fell for the propaganda and I'm not talking about the illegals
They're coming because they're jealous of America's wealth and want it for themselves, they're stealing yours and your children's birth right from under your nose and you're too retarded to see it
the view of a moralizing faggot. They don't hate you, they don't want to rape your kids, most of them want a job and a nice house or whatever.
I don't need you to "Tax the Jews" on my behalf. Merely getting rid of their scabs would be sufficient thank you very much.
What part of your brain has rotted to the point where you have infinite hostility toward the browns and absolutely none for the ones who abuse the system to hire them? You're not getting rid of H1B under trump, economically it doesn't make sense anyway, the only good option is to force the corps to bend the knee and put the money they make off of the greatest country on earth back into the people who make it great.
 
the view of a moralizing faggot. They don't hate you, they don't want to rape your kids, most of them want a job and a nice house or whatever.
Invaders like Ilhan Omar very much do hate you
But you are also right. Jeets do very much want to take your jobs and they also want to price you out of the housing market. Thank you for acknowledging that.
 
https://youtube.com/watch?v=8ynCVmw5AWk
Not sure if this is the right thread. Because it's not exactly related to a politician. But it's related to American politics in its own way.

Either way it's an interesting watch.
I found this very interesting and horrifying, I made a dedicated thread to discuss: https://kiwifarms.st/threads/very-carefully-educated-to-be-idiots.230047/
Just wanted to let you know and also thank you for posting it originally. Btw, I think it is extremely US politics-relevant, given it's about education in this country, but it's also hard to get a good discussion going on such a deep topic in a fast-moving thread like this.
 
Invaders like Ilhan Omar very much do hate you
But you are also right. Jeets do very much want to take your jobs and they also want to price you out of the housing market. Thank you for acknowledging that.
Don't you just love it when a "Liberal's" programming activates and they suddenly start advocating on behalf of big capital getting to keep their exploited laborers?
 
It's interesting how everything clicks if whenever a liberal goes on a rant you mentally substitute the words Nazi and Hitler with "Boogieman"
 
They don't hate you, they don't want to rape your kids
But thousands of them do, and frankly I don't think they should ever be allowed to slip through the cracks just because Consuela wants to scrub toilets to pay for her 12 kids.

The ones who are genuinely good people that just want to live in a nice country and assimilate and contribute have my sympathy, but I would lock out a billion Straight-edge Apus if it stopped one MS-13 shitheel, crack-dealing murderer, or anchor-baby gimmiedats leech from stepping foot in my homeland.

Living in the US is a privilege, not a right, and the thing about privileges is that sometimes you don't fucking get them. Too bad. If you can't gain entry legally the correct and only acceptable response is to go home and try again later, not become a criminal and break in because you NEEDS DEM JERBS MANG.

All that does is demonstrate a complete lack of respect for the laws of the place you're trying to get into and shows that you only see it as an opportunity to enrich yourself, even if it comes at the expense of the very place you think you're entitled to live in.

If the very first thing you do in this country is break the law because you think the laws shouldn't apply to you then why the hell should anyone assume you wont just break more laws and fuck over actual citizens too?
 
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Don't you just love it when a "Liberal's" programming activates and they suddenly start advocating on behalf of big capital getting to keep their exploited laborers?
If we deport them how can they work our fields, clean our toilets and cook for us!? They do all those hard jobs, they don't want your programming jobs or union position! Right? Right?
 
It'll only work if you do the part where you take the generated profits and disperse them back to Americans. Instead republicans paid by all the corpojews infinitely kick and scream and fight on the taxes until now, decades after fucking everything up, they get the chance to use immigration as a wedge issue as if it hasn't been their fault that the money hasn't gone back to the people.
America redistributes more wealth to its low classes than any other nation on Earth and this is why we aren't on Mars. Also, stop pretending to be on my side. You're some kind of shitskin who believes that White people can't have countries.
No, that's why you should be taking some of the profits from the companies that reap all the benefits and use them to turn these low-skill workers into high-skill workers through schooling. Republicans would rather you be poor, stupid and angry at other poor stupid people forever while elon and trump and the entire gaggle of pedophile elites rape your daughters with the promise of a better future if they just bite down a little harder on the pillow
Human capital is fixed. And currently, liberals want young americans and poor americans to compete with the entire population of india, and they'll mock you as stupid and incompetent because you can't do a shit job for worse wages. Just so you know, there's no correlation between party affiliation and NAEP scores across states.
 
No, that's why you should be taking some of the profits from the companies that reap all the benefits and use them to turn these low-skill workers into high-skill workers through schooling. Republicans would rather you be poor, stupid and angry at other poor stupid people forever while elon and trump and the entire gaggle of pedophile elites rape your daughters with the promise of a better future if they just bite down a little harder on the pillow
You realize there are ways to accomplish the same goal. Without government intervention right?

And that's not even some pie in the sky dream. United States companies already do it. Just not piece of shit tech companies. Who people should rightfully see as about as evil and greedy as anything that has ever existed (all the while they took on the "we are very inclusive, and care SO MUCH about minorities, and lgbt people" meanwhile fucking over the population in every way they can"). Like for instance there are companies that literally pay for people's schooling. If you are working a trade. Not even just trades, but a lot of actual industry does take care of school provided you use that education to work for their company. I know oil companies do that as well.

When the government isn't incentivizing importing indentured servants from less fortunate people (the ones from countries that might look as the united states a the land of opportunity.). it incentives them to do make sure the people here can fill the roles they need filled.

If you look at who get's hurt by regulations and high taxes on businesses. I promise you it's not sticking it to the billionaires, it's smaller businesses that get crushed by the higher cost's of doing business. If you look at how rough it is on small businesses already to deal with taxes it's amazing a lot of them can stay afloat at all.

Also I don't know why you don't seem to grasp why people have a problem with people coming into the country illegally. And want them removed. If they actually want to come here. If they want to work in America, if they want to have the rights everyone else in the country has. There is a legal channel they could have gone through. Just like every other country in this world, that I know of has. But if we show the world, that they don't need to care about that. If you just manage to get past the border, you can get any benefit from being a citizen, that is given to the people to actually put in the time and effort to do it honestly. We are giving the incentive for the to keep doing it. So they have kept doing it.

That's not even touching the cartels in this country. Which absolutely aren't just some talking point the right uses. They absolutely are a real thing. They do horrible things to people in this country. People in their own country. They make deals with crooked politicians, border guards. They make less fortunate people do their bidding, and they are absolutely a threat to this country. And their own country. And while there have been arrests here, and there. They are a real problem. And it seems like democrats/the left just ignore that they are there. Or try down playing them. No not everyone coming through the border is in a cartel or a criminal, but they take advantage of the loose policies we have had just as much as normal people do.
 
If we deport them how can they work our fields, clean our toilets and cook for us!? They do all those hard jobs, they don't want your programming jobs or union position! Right? Right?
Charge them with illegal immigration and imprison them. Then they can legally be used as slaves. Only deport the ones too weak to be a net positive in cost.
 
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